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ultimaton

I saw it this afternoon in 35mm at Alamo.

I love all of QT's other movies, but I came away a little bit disappointed with this one and thought it was merely ok. It just weirdly felt like it was somehow less than the sum of its parts. More than once I thought the in-movie movie or show they were filming was more interesting than the actual movie I was watching. The ending was great, and Rick getting the flamethrower and cooking that bitch Krenwinkel got some nice laughs and cheers from my crowd.

Paff

That was Susan Atkins, which made it far more satisfying.

I was worried that Margaret Qualley's character was Atkins, because I don't like anyone, not even QT, making her likeable.

I'm not quite sure what to think of this movie yet, I'm gonna need to digest it, probably needs another viewing. Meanwhile, this weekend I'll be watching Jim Van Bebber's The Manson Family. Because as much as I like seeing what happened to Tex, Susan, and Katie (in Tarantino's film), I know that's just not how it went down.

Mondo Kane

Prior to the ending, that was the only part that I wasn't a fan of. It just went on way too long. Had that showdown-section with Clifton Collins (Who I was still glad to see in a QT film) been trimmed out, I felt the scene would have been much more digestible.

And then the ending. Now I don't mind QT pulling another one of his "What if" takes here, but to turn the climax into something out of Looney Tunes just didn't work. Although some of the comments here would disagree. As well as plenty of other people in the crowd who I saw it with. But the fairytale ending fits with the title, sooo….

But I loved just about everything else. I never got tired of hearing that prevalent radio everywhere and a big for Clu's cameo.

Lee did display cockiness here and there, but yeah, QT has always had some sort of grudge with him. Always saying that he's a bigger Jackie fan and even preferring Bruce Li over him. At least he did give him a little respect in Natural Born Killers (Check out the deleted court scene which he wrote)

Why So Blu?

I just got back from this and it's my #1 film of the year dethroning Dragged Across Concrete. It's definitely a QT "stream of consciousness" film. He loves Hollywood. It's one of Pitt's best performances in a while. Saw it in 35mm but we had small glitch during the Al Pacino scene in the beginning, so we lost about 2 minutes -- didn't get to see him say his line about seeing Dalton in those action movies going "drooot drooot drooot!" After the show we got a magazine and a free movie ticket for our trouble.

I'd say that this film is the spiritual sequel to Inglourious Basterds just on ending alone - it was a fable. It also had plenty of nods to Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Psycho while at the Spahn Ranch and Blade Runner during the hysterical screaming lady at the end. But yeah, that burst of violence at the end fucked everyone up in the theater.




I'm definitely going back for seconds. It was terrific.

Oh, did anyone notice that Tim Roth's scene was cut? It even says in the credits "Tim Roth (cut)," so I hope there's an extended cut on home video or how he did with H8 on Netflix.

Boba Fett

TomOpus

Yeah, the tone of the movie during the Spahn Ranch scene felt like a horror movie, especially with the music.

Rex Fenestrarum

Not just one, but technically two!

Dan

This was the best sequence with arguably the worst payoff....



until...
the last 20-ish minutes of the film.

Oof.

I need to give this more time... and I might go see it again just to catch the end/after credits stuff.

MysterioMan007

I love Tarantino. This is a film I'm going to have to let sink in to determine how I really feel about it. I was a little thrown off by the ending because I thought it would end with Tate's murder. Brad Pitt stole the movie imo, but I love Margot Robbie in anything, so no one did a bad job at all. It was a great movie with an awesome cast. I'm just deciding how much I liked it and whether or not I would consider it great. I will definitely watch it again at some point, but don't see another theatrical visit on the horizon.

Paff

One of the things about Tarantino films is that on the first viewing you watch what happens, but on the second time around (when you already know what happens), you just focus on the journey there. I remember my first viewing of Pulp Fiction, being kinda bored by Vincent Vega and Mia Wallace at dinner, while being at the edge of my seat when Marcellus is chasing Butch. Now it's the other way around. The more "action-packed" Gold Watch segment bores me a bit, but I love the scenes of characters just talking. Or one of my favorite scenes in any QT film, in Jackie Brown when Max Cherry comes to Jackie's house for coffee.

So I'll definitely be giving this another watch soon, just to admire the subtleties without worrying about the plot (which is probably the most non-existent in any QT film so far...)

TomOpus

I kept trying to figure out how it might play out.

I'm probably seeing it again today. This time I'll do the digital version.

JZ1276

I couldn't have said it better myself. what was up with ricks nervous tick though? What was the point of that? Another question I have that my brother and I were arguing about is did the Manson family originally plan to kill everyone in the Polanski house or the Dalton house? I took it as they planned on killing everyone in the Polanski house until they had the run-in with Rick then they decided to murder him and whoever was in his house.

Dan

I think there's a few well-known actors who exhibit this kind of thing when they're not acting, but are able to suppress it when they are. Just adds some depth the his character.

Yeah. I took it as the plan obviously being to enter the Polanski residence, but after the encounter with Rick, I figured their plan was changed to kill him first, then head to the Polanski house, since there was talk about the previous resident and all that beforehand. Manson wouldn't have been satisfied if they came back after only killing Rick, etc.

Mondo Kane

The more I think of it, the more I'm seeing and loving Cliff's role as the loyal samurai-warrior to Rick's Lord or Shogun.

Some little moments that I loved:

-Bruce's Joe Lewis line (My biggest laugh)
-The C.C. and Company trailer playing at the theater. Wayne Cochrane's appearance is the most unforgettable moment of the trailer. Glad to see Tarantino include that specific part.
-QT bringing back Roy Rogers' The Golden Stallion as a poster by Rick's bar. Bill watches the film on his TV in Kill Bill Vol 2.
-A cool trademark of Bob Richardson's photography is when his lighting gives the characters white outlines. We've seen it numerous times in Scorsese and Stone films. It was great to see it during Steve McQueen's scene.
-At the theater, you can see a poster for The Mercenary on display. Which was, in real life, made by Sergio Corbucci. Who eventually becomes Rick Dalton's director! Bonus: As most of us know, music from The Mercenary was used in Kill Bill Vol 2.

Why So Blu?

"Don't cry in front of the Mexicans."

Why So Blu?

I also enjoyed that scene of Dalton and Olyphant in the saloon and Dalton chokes on his lines. "Evil Hamlet."

Red Hood

Paff

Let's also note that Quentin Tarantino has moved on from close-ups of womens' feet, to close-ups of womens' dirty feet.

JZ1276

Can anyone tell me the name of the song that played during the end credits? I couldn't place it but I definitely knew it

bluetoast

Why So Blu?

I wanted to go to Amoeba for it, but too much hassle. I don't even know how much it will cost. I just read that it's being released in three versions later in the fall, so I will wait on that instead.

Paff

Dirty movies have premieres?

Why So Blu?

It was the 1960's -- everyone had dirty ass feet, bush, and hairy armpits.

I think the hitchhiker Cliff picked so hot. Looked her up on IMDB and she's Andie McDowell's daughter.

Why So Blu?

We also cracked up at Dalton saying he drank 8 whiskey sours. And he doesn't even like whiskey sours! That shit had me rolling.