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Old 08-06-23, 10:10 PM
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Iím onboard with Kirby & Quinn.
Iíd also love if the Matt Smith as Reed was true.
I hope Marvel doesnít fuck this up. Iím looking forward to this so much.
Old 08-06-23, 10:55 PM
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re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

Vanessa Kirby certainly has one thing going for her in a Fantastic Four movie.
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Old 11-04-23, 10:40 AM
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Take it for what it's worth... but this might work and I could get on board with this (from Marvel Fans Forever):
Spoiler:
BREAKING:
The MCUís Fantastic Four gets a working titleÖ
ďBlue MoonĒ
The Blue Area of the Moon may serve as one of the more important settings of the movie. Which actually has happened in the comics in Fantastic Four 13 from 1963, where the Fantastic Four travels to the Blue side of the Moon.
This also ties into Kree & Skrull war, which will further be explored in The Marvels.
So what do we know about the MCUís Fantastic Four for now?
ē A Different Universe:
The movie takes place in a different Universe, where the Fantastic Four are the only heroes of that Universe.
ē The Watcher:
The Blue side of the Moon is where the Watcher warns the Fantastic Four about the arrival of Galactus.
ē The Villain Wins:
> Galactus will be the main Villain of the movie along with a female version of Silver Surfer - named Juno from Earth-829. This also gives Marvel a bigger scope to have the original Silver Surfer (Norrin Radd) from the Sacred Timeline.
> Galactus wins & destroys the Universe of the Fantastic Four.
ē The TVA:
The TVA will play a key role in the movie, by saving the heroes and bringing them to a place between Universes.
And as the director Matt Shakman stated, he is ready with his cast & is waiting to announce them officially once the strikes are done.
The names which are almost confirmed are:
> Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic - Jake Gyllenhaal
> Susan Storm/Invisible Woman - Vanessa Kirby
> Johnny Storm/Human Torch - Joseph Quinn
> Ben Grimm/Thing - Ebon Moss-Bachrach
Jake Gyllenhaal who previously played Quentin Beck/Mysterio in Spider-Man Far From Home playing Reed Richards will also be justified as he now comes from a different Universe.


Old 11-06-23, 03:20 AM
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

That all soundsÖ. Pretty terrible frankly.
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Originally Posted by The Antipodean
That all soundsÖ. Pretty terrible frankly.
The part that I am keen about would be the FF coming from another world... it's going to be hard to introduce an established group in a timeline where they've been absent from 30+ movies/series where they're impact would have been welcomed and noted.

... and with the new internet tabloid rumor that Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Toby McGuire's Spider-man are going to lead the Secret Wars project... they're pulling in "outsiders" to grab the cynics that have bailed on these new characters that haven't garnered the following they want to recapture.

But I'm not Kevin Fiege so I don't know what we're gonna get.
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Old 11-06-23, 10:22 AM
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Originally Posted by Goldberg74
The part that I am keen about would be the FF coming from another world... it's going to be hard to introduce an established group in a timeline where they've been absent from 30+ movies/series where they're impact would have been welcomed and noted.

... and with the new internet tabloid rumor that Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Toby McGuire's Spider-man are going to lead the Secret Wars project... they're pulling in "outsiders" to grab the cynics that have bailed on these new characters that haven't garnered the following they want to recapture.

But I'm not Kevin Fiege so I don't know what we're gonna get.
Yeah, it certainly feels like they're going to use the Multiverse to bring in the Fantastic Four and X-Men.

I'm really not a fan of the Multiverse crutch being used to introduce new franchises and characters to the MCU, or using it to correct poor decisions in previous films, but that seems like the direction they're going to take.

I'd actually be more okay with the Fantastic Four being set in the 1960s of the MCU, then getting thrown into the 21st century MCU, and having the X-Men and mutants hiding out on Krakoa and making their MCU debut that way than relying on the Multiverse.

It just becomes such a cheap handwave when they can kill off Tony Stark and have Steve Rogers time travel back to the past, then decide they still need Iron Man and Captain America in the MCU and just pull the Captain America from Universe 7384782 and the Iron Man from Universe K-7883-0-5 into the MCU and pretend like nothing ever happened.

Between killing off Loki, Thanos, and Gamora the last two Avengers films only to bring them back with time-travel hijinks, and having Dr. Strange erase Spiderman from the world's memory to remove all of the baggage they gave him, they've already done too much handwaving.
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Old 11-06-23, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Yeah, it certainly feels like they're going to use the Multiverse to bring in the Fantastic Four and X-Men.

I'm really not a fan of the Multiverse crutch being used to introduce new franchises and characters to the MCU, or using it to correct poor decisions in previous films, but that seems like the direction they're going to take.

I'd actually be more okay with the Fantastic Four being set in the 1960s of the MCU, then getting thrown into the 21st century MCU, and having the X-Men and mutants hiding out on Krakoa and making their MCU debut that way than relying on the Multiverse.

It just becomes such a cheap handwave when they can kill off Tony Stark and have Steve Rogers time travel back to the past, then decide they still need Iron Man and Captain America in the MCU and just pull the Captain America from Universe 7384782 and the Iron Man from Universe K-7883-0-5 into the MCU and pretend like nothing ever happened.

Between killing off Loki, Thanos, and Gamora the last two Avengers films only to bring them back with time-travel hijinks, and having Dr. Strange erase Spiderman from the world's memory to remove all of the baggage they gave him, they've already done too much handwaving.
I'm either/or on the FF coming from an alternate universe. It's a neat idea, but I'm OK if they keep the classic origin.
The X-Men coming from elsewhere is a big mistake.
1. It's needlessly complex. Just say they were mostly underground or Infinity Stone shenanigans triggered X-genes.
2. If they're both from alternate universes, why would the FF be considered celebrity heroes, but the X-Men would be villified? How would you introduce new X-Men?
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Originally Posted by IBJoel
I'm either/or on the FF coming from an alternate universe. It's a neat idea, but I'm OK if they keep the classic origin.
The X-Men coming from elsewhere is a big mistake.
Yeah, I could sort of see the FF coming from an alternate universe, but not both. I still like the idea of the FF being set in the 1960s of the MCU, where they could things like Howard Stark, young Hank Pym, Peggy Carter, etc. It's the kind of the things that make the MCU into a richer, more expansive place where it has a sense of its own history.

1. It's needlessly complex. Just say they were mostly underground or Infinity Stone shenanigans triggered X-genes.
A few years ago Marvel did a sort of soft reboot of the X-Men titles with Jonathan Hickman, where the mutants self-segregated themselves on the mutant island Krakoa. Seemed like it could have been a trial balloon for how they're going to integrate the X-Men and mutants into the MCU, where they've been living in this Shangri-La-like place and just now start coming out into the greater world.

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Old 11-06-23, 01:34 PM
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re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

So now Jake Gyllenhaal will play a Marvel character who claims to be from another universe...and really is?
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Yeah, I could sort of see the FF coming from an alternate universe, but not both. I still like the idea of the FF being set in the 1960s of the MCU, where they could things like Howard Stark, young Hank Pym, Peggy Carter, etc. It's the kind of the things that make the MCU into a richer, more expansive place where it has a sense of its own history.



A few years ago Marvel did a sort of soft reboot of the X-Men titles with Jonathan Hickman, where they the mutants self-segregated themselves on the mutant island Krakoa. Seemed like it could have been a trial balloon for how they're going to integrate the X-Men and mutants into the MCU, where they've been living in this Shangri-La-like place and just now start coming out into the greater world.
So it's Wakanda for mutants and the MCU would already be repeating storylines.
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I'm old. All this multiverse stuff is (getting more) confusing. (Shakes fist at my comic and movie collection and shout's get off my universe lawn).
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Originally Posted by Goldberg74
The part that I am keen about would be the FF coming from another world... it's going to be hard to introduce an established group in a timeline where they've been absent from 30+ movies/series where they're impact would have been welcomed and noted.

... and with the new internet tabloid rumor that Hugh Jackman's Wolverine and Toby McGuire's Spider-man are going to lead the Secret Wars project... they're pulling in "outsiders" to grab the cynics that have bailed on these new characters that haven't garnered the following they want to recapture.

But I'm not Kevin Fiege so I don't know what we're gonna get.

Pardon?
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Pascal in talks to play Reed Richards

https://deadline.com/2023/11/pedro-p...ur-1235599560/
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Looking like Pedro Pascal in talks to play films Reed Richards
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

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Pascal in talks to play Reed Richards

https://deadline.com/2023/11/pedro-p...ur-1235599560/
There's an echo in here.

THis is the way
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re: The Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) S: Pascal, Kirby, Moss-Bachrach, Quinn

I'm cool with this so long as he doesn't have a wishing rock
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It's about time he got cast in a high-profile role!
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I like this pick way more than Jake G. That seemed all sorts of wrong.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
I like this pick way more than Jake G. That seemed all sorts of wrong.
He seems more suited for Johnny than Reed.
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I like Pascal but not for this.

Too old. Or too old looking.
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Re: Marvelís Fantastic Four (2025, D: Shakman) - news, rumors, etc.

Originally Posted by Deftones
I like this pick way more than Jake G. That seemed all sorts of wrong.
Totally agree, a much better choice than Jake (or those rumors about Adam Driver, ugh!).
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Iím okay with Pedro but yeah.. not my first choice for Mr. Fantastic. Iím sure heíll be alright but just not who Iíd have thought would be cast.
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I like Pascal but definitely the wrong choice for this. They should've gone with someone unknown.

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