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Old 07-17-19, 12:50 PM
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Oh, I didn't even realize the actor they cast for the Prince was white, I assumed he was black and that's why people were wondering about the lack of outrage. Doh!
That's why I had the initial reaction of switching the ethnicities when I heard Harry Styles was going to be cast as Prince Eric. It still places the good looking white guy as the desired Prince to be with. Pocahontas, Belle and Tiana had to learn to love their Princes. Ariel is enamored with Prince Eric the moment she saw him.

Of course, this is just insecure me venting about Asian women who date White guys because they're seen as a status symbol.
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That's why I had the initial reaction of switching the ethnicities when I heard Harry Styles was going to be cast as Prince Eric. It still places the good looking white guy as the desired Prince to be with. Pocahontas, Belle and Tiana had to learn to love their Princes. Ariel is enamored with Prince Eric the moment she saw him.
Yep! That's another reason why there is no shock the Prince will be White.


Of course, this is just insecure me venting about Asian women who date White guys because they're seen as a status symbol.
Naw, it's not just you. I know we've had this discussion here in the past. It's a "thing". PoC have watched this dynamic in Hollywood FOREVER. White guy gets the Asian girl/Black Girl/Latina/etc. But when it's a Asian guy, he can either only get the Asian girl or nothing.
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just skip this film. You'll always have the original.
In the case of the Lion King we don’t have the original.
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In the case of the Lion King we don’t have the original.
Sure you do.

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Javier Bardem in Talks to Play King Triton in Disney's Live-Action 'Little Mermaid'
JULY 17, 2019 2:24PM by Aaron Couch

The actor would join a cast that includes Halle Bailey's Ariel and Harry Styles.

The Little Mermaid has found its king.

Javier Bardem is in talks to play King Triton in the live-action remake of the Disney classic, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed. He would join a cast that includes Halle Bailey as Ariel, daughter of Triton, and Harry Styles as the human Prince Eric.

Other castmembers include Melissa McCarthy as the villain Ursula, as well as Akwafina and Jacob Tremblay.

Director Rob Marshall is behind the project, an update of the 1989 animated pic that won original song and score Oscars for Alan Menken. For the new film, Menken will update his score and compose a new song with lyrics from Lin-Manuel Miranda. Marc Platt, who worked with Marshall on Disney’s Mary Poppins Returns and executive produced the studio’s live-action Aladdin remake, is producing Little Mermaid. Marshall and John DeLuca are also producers, as is Miranda.

The casting of Styles and Bailey show the studio’s intent of making the music a central component of the remake. Interestingly, the character of Eric performed no songs in the original film. That was remedied, however, in the 2000s Broadway musical, with Eric now performing several numbers, including two solos.

Bardem won a best supporting actor Oscar for 2007's No Country for Old Men. He will appear in next year's Dune, Denis Villeneuve's big-budget adaptation of the classic sci-fi novel. Bardem is repped by WME.

The casting comes as Disney is preparing to launch The Lion King, its third remake of an animated classic this year following Dumbo and Aladdin. It is expected to gross $150 million-plus in its opening weekend.
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A black Ariel, a white Prince Eric, and a Spanish King Triton? This new movie is shaping up to look like the cover of a college sociology textbook.
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You can’t flip a coin under water.
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You can’t flip a coin under water.
And dogs can’t look up...
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Of course, this is just insecure me venting about Asian women who date White guys because they're seen as a status symbol.
Originally Posted by Giantrobo View Post
Naw, it's not just you. I know we've had this discussion here in the past. It's a "thing". PoC have watched this dynamic in Hollywood FOREVER. White guy gets the Asian girl/Black Girl/Latina/etc. But when it's a Asian guy, he can either only get the Asian girl or nothing.
At the risk of hijacking this thread, I didn't know this was really a thing. So are you, devilshalo, asian and jealous that Asian women date white guys? That's interesting because in my family we all ended up with white people. Honestly more because of what's available. This is getting too personal but anyways, I'm an Asian guy but actually have a weird thing where I'm not really attracted to Asian women. And I think that's mainly because growing up the only Asian women I knew were family. Just curious how it was for other Asians growing up in the US.
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, I didn't know this was really a thing. So are you, devilshalo, asian and jealous that Asian women date white guys? That's interesting because in my family we all ended up with white people. Honestly more because of what's available. This is getting too personal but anyways, I'm an Asian guy but actually have a weird thing where I'm not really attracted to Asian women. And I think that's mainly because growing up the only Asian women I knew were family. Just curious how it was for other Asians growing up in the US.
Apologies because this may derail the thread. I don't even feel that strongly about it but wanted to address it anyway.

This isn't the first time I've heard this exact sentiment, which is weird because I don't think I've ever heard any other ethnicity say it, but Asian American author Celeste Ng infamously wrote a tweet saying pretty much the exact same thing:


And then you had stuff like Netflix's "All the Boys I've Loved Before" which is also based on a novel. I do think it's natural to be attracted to people based on who you're surrounded by/grow up with and who's available, and obviously Asians are a minority, but another influence is the stereotype perpetuated by movies and TV shows that Asian women are desirable and Asian men are not (you could also argue the opposite is usually true, except reversed, with African American men and women). It isn't just media, but it is prevalent (or at least was):

Not to get into it too much, here's an article about it:
https://planamag.com/celeste-ng-cont...s-167717287ba1

This doesn't excuse attacks on these women by seemingly insecure men, though:
https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/when-...asian-men.html

tl;dr: Like who you like, but media does influence thought and perpetuates stereotypes, which is why it gets brought up when we discuss media.
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Old 07-26-19, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fujishig View Post
Apologies because this may derail the thread. I don't even feel that strongly about it but wanted to address it anyway.

This isn't the first time I've heard this exact sentiment, which is weird because I don't think I've ever heard any other ethnicity say it, but Asian American author Celeste Ng infamously wrote a tweet saying pretty much the exact same thing:

https://twitter.com/pronounced_ing/s...264576?lang=en

And then you had stuff like Netflix's "All the Boys I've Loved Before" which is also based on a novel. I do think it's natural to be attracted to people based on who you're surrounded by/grow up with and who's available, and obviously Asians are a minority, but another influence is the stereotype perpetuated by movies and TV shows that Asian women are desirable and Asian men are not (you could also argue the opposite is usually true, except reversed, with African American men and women). It isn't just media, but it is prevalent (or at least was):

Not to get into it too much, here's an article about it:
https://planamag.com/celeste-ng-cont...s-167717287ba1

This doesn't excuse attacks on these women by seemingly insecure men, though:
https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/when-...asian-men.html

tl;dr: Like who you like, but media does influence thought and perpetuates stereotypes, which is why it gets brought up when we discuss media.
And then Netflix gives you Always Be My Maybe...

BTW.. I have a caucasian gf now.
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At the risk of hijacking this thread, I didn't know this was really a thing. So are you, devilshalo, asian and jealous that Asian women date white guys? That's interesting because in my family we all ended up with white people. Honestly more because of what's available. This is getting too personal but anyways, I'm an Asian guy but actually have a weird thing where I'm not really attracted to Asian women. And I think that's mainly because growing up the only Asian women I knew were family. Just curious how it was for other Asians growing up in the US.
Honestly for me, I grew up in Hawaii so there was very little diversity. Also, there was a lot of pressure to remain ethnically pure, to carry on a pure bloodline. My cousins are all mixed (mostly Chinese/Japanese) and I remain the only full blooded Chinese grandchild (which made me the favorite with my father's father.) I'm 51 now and I don't care anymore. But as a teen, it was frustrating.
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This will probably get canceled when the lion king underperforms.
So since that didn't happen, now what?
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Old 07-26-19, 05:24 PM
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I don’t know. How’d the Lion King do? Did it out earn Aladdin? Did it surpass the 1994 original?
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It's done over $720 million ww in about 2 weeks. Original did $960 million ww. Aladdin is at $999 million ww.

Underperform?
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I'm fascinated they released their big two the same summer and they didn't steal box office from each other at all, that's nuts.
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I'm fascinated they released their big two the same summer and they didn't steal box office from each other at all, that's nuts.
Never underestimate a parent's need to find something for their kids to do during the summer. (plus throw in the parent's own nostalgia)
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It's done over $720 million ww in about 2 weeks. Original did $960 million ww. Aladdin is at $999 million ww.

Underperform?
Wow. The 1994 version surpassed the animated Aladdin. Amazing that Lion King remake can’t do likewise. Maybe it will eventually.
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Harry Styles Passes on 'Little Mermaid' Role
AUGUST 13, 2019 4:34PM by Mia Galuppo
The former One Direction performer would have starred opposite 'Grown-ish' actress Halle Bailey, who is set to play Ariel.

Harry Styles will not be heading under the sea for Disney's live-action Little Mermaid.

The Dunkirk actor is no longer in talks to play Prince Eric in the Rob Marshall-directed musical, The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

Grown-ish actress Halle Bailey is set to play Ariel, with Melissa McCarthy playing Ursula, Jacob Tremblay voicing Flounder and Awkwafina voicing Scuttle.

Marc Platt, who worked with Marshall on Mary Poppins Returns and executive produced Guy Ritchie's live-action Aladdin remake, is producing. Marshall and John DeLuca are also producers on Little Mermaid, as is Lin-Manuel Miranda.

Styles made his feature acting debut in Christopher Nolan's WWII epic Dunkirk and was recently in consideration to play Elvis Presley in Baz Luhrmann's movie musical (the part later went to Austin Butler).
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Wow. The 1994 version surpassed the animated Aladdin. Amazing that Lion King remake can’t do likewise. Maybe it will eventually.
This post didn't age well.
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