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Love it. It does get maligned.
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Hate it. It’s a disgrace to the original and Thomas Harris’ book.
16.67%
Like it. Reviews could have been a little harsh, but I get it.
29.17%
It was ok. Reviews pretty accurate, somewhat accurate, somewhat over-blown.
20.83%
Reviews were right on point and so are my feelings about the movie.
8.33%
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Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

Old 06-09-19, 10:31 PM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

Originally Posted by inri222 View Post


Hannibal better than Manhunter?
Dude put down the dust blunt.
Ridley Scott wishes he was as good of a director as Michael Mann.
IMO, Heat is one of the greatest movies ever made. But aside from that Mann usually makes decent movies but nothing that ever rises about just “really good”.

Scott has had his share of misfires but Alien, Bladerunner, Black Hawk Down, Kingdom of Heaven (DC), and The Duellists are better than anything else Mann has made (except Heat)

All that being said, Hannibal is terrible.
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Old 06-09-19, 10:42 PM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

Thief, Collateral and Miami Vice are better than half of Ridley Scott’s filmography.
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Old 06-10-19, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OldBoy View Post
I still think Moore played not as good as Foster, certainly, but she did portray that coldness with bit of emotion, like Foster’s Clarice...

My list would go:
1. Silence of the Lambs
2. Hannibal
3. Manhunter
4. Red Dragon

I don’t consider those insipid prequels or whatever part of series. Never saw and have no interet.
I'd rank them the same. And I REALLY wanted to like Red Dragon, since it was more true to the book.

I loved the music (especially Shriekback) in Manhunter, but thought William Petersen was terrible. Tom Noonan was good, however.

And, yeah, I think Ridley Scott walks all over Michael Mann.
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Old 06-10-19, 08:24 AM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle View Post
I do plan to give it another look at some point. In the meantime, I highly recommend the series that aired on NBC. Mads Mikkeksen has a very different take from Hopkins. They sort of take the plotlines from the books are remix them (except for Silence. Maybe they were waiting for season four). It's also a very food centered show, and you finally get to see Lecter as a therapist.
Silence of the Lambs and all the characters introduced in it were owned by a different production company while Hannibal the TV series was on the air. That's why we didn't see Clarice, Ardelia Mapp, Paul Krendler, Barney, etc... Barney especially would have made sense given some of the things that happened in the show. The rights have reverted back so if things ever come together for a season four then they could use all Silence of the Lambs characters and plot lines.
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Old 06-10-19, 11:33 AM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

The TV series was great. I know there are a lot of people who haven't started it yet. So I thought I should say that. So you check it out.

It may also make you hungry. I'd suggest replacing the human with tenderloin.

I feel like there is a cooking show to accompany the TV series - the same way Chef just released its own show on Netflix. Hmmm.
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Old 06-11-19, 05:47 PM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

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I didn't think the book was very good so it starts there for me. Given that Foster, Demme, and Ted Tally all passed on the story, it's likely that they agreed.
Agreed. The book was awful and despite trying to make some changes, the movie didn't work either. I still applaud Jodie Foster for refusing to do it.
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Old 06-11-19, 10:01 PM
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Agreed. The book was awful and despite trying to make some changes, the movie didn't work either. I still applaud Jodie Foster for refusing to do it.
All three of them passed on what would have been the biggest payday of their career (at least to that point). I think that takes a certain amount of artistic integrity.
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Old 06-14-19, 07:08 PM
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Jodie Foster disliked it because of what Harris did to Starling. Can't say I blame her.

Harris also messed up with Lecter, turning him into a psychotic Frasier Crane.
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What did he do to Starling? Wasn’t he always a dapper serial killer as we saw tease at end of Silence? And of course the witnessing of brutal slaying of cops in cell. I thought Hannibal broadened both characters nicely.
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Old 06-15-19, 02:29 AM
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What did he do to Starling? Wasn’t he always a dapper serial killer as we saw tease at end of Silence? And of course the witnessing of brutal slaying of cops in cell. I thought Hannibal broadened both characters nicely.
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He turned Starling into a cannibal and had her and Lecter become lovers.


I never viewed him as dapper in SOTL although those elements were there: his living situation in the D.C. cage, the drawings, fava beans, and then the “creative” way he left the cops bodies.
The latter, I thought was a one time thing. But then you find out it’s his MO in Hannibal, which is weird because why draw attention to himself in such a showy killing?
I agree, he felt more like a psych to Frasier in the 2nd film.
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?

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Spoiler:
He turned Starling into a cannibal and had her and Lecter become lovers.


I never viewed him as dapper in SOTL although those elements were there: his living situation in the D.C. cage, the drawings, fava beans, and then the “creative” way he left the cops bodies.
The latter, I thought was a one time thing. But then you find out it’s his MO in Hannibal, which is weird because why draw attention to himself in such a showy killing?
I agree, he felt more like a psych to Frasier in the 2nd film.
no, i meant he only became dapper and the jet setter we know from Hannibal at the very end of SotL when he was "having an old friend for dinner"
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Old 06-16-19, 01:41 AM
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no, i meant he only became dapper and the jet setter we know from Hannibal at the very end of SotL when he was "having an old friend for dinner"
That was the movie's creative license, and what license it was. The book ending was much milder.
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Old 06-17-19, 06:24 AM
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Re: Why is Hannibal (2001) so reviled?



Spoiler:
He turned Starling into a cannibal and had her and Lecter become lovers.


This is true, but it memory serves it was because
Spoiler:
he was drugging her
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Old 06-17-19, 12:28 PM
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man. I miss Roger Ebert (and Siskel).
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