dex14

Well, that will change next year.

GatorDeb

And if I see her in her own movie I'll be able to pick her out in a crowd

johnnysd

I kinda wish all superhero movies would take like a 10 year break, and allow some originality and freshness to summer movies again. Not a huge fan of any of them really, but the thirst for essentially the same movie over and over and over seems unquenchable.

actionjackson29

DJariya

Saying you don't like the genre and wish it would go away in a reviews thread is the definition of a thread crap. What did you think you were adding by typing this?

Troy Stiffler

Abob Teff

Draven

Abob Teff

Why So Blu?

We're getting a Tarantino movie this year, so this is already a great year in film.

Spiderbite

I think you are way wrong about Hulk/Banner character being uninteresting. The character is uninteresting in the movies because he is so boringly played by Mark Ruffalo (I have always hated his portrayal of Banner since day one) and Hulk has been written mostly as a half-assed character that is only used when the plot needs him to destroy something or for a brief moment of levity.

If you go back and read the comics (at least a lot of the 80's ones that I read as a kid), I always found the Hulk and the internal struggle that Banner had to deal with fascinating. Hell, the cheaply made, every week formula 70's TV show had a better realized Hulk/Banner than any of the recent Marvel movies which is a shame. But again, it is because of the crummy Mark Ruffalo and poor writing.

Saw this today and here are some of my thoughts which won't really differ much from what I have read in the 17 pages here...Loved the movie. Loved, loved, loved it. Hell, as soon as it was over I could have just sat my happy ass in the exact same spot and watched it over. My 15 year old son and I saw it at the local LieMAX in 3D. Skip the 3D as it was mostly worthless.

I am exceptionally critical of movies but I had trouble really finding faults with this one other than just a lot of the nit-picks that have already been mentioned many times. This movie is truly a feat of modern film-making. It really has everything. Drama, gut-wrenching emotions, excellent action, a diverse cast that can actually act (fuck Mark Ruffalo though...), and scenes that make you want to cry or jump up and shout! And all this from a comic book movie! The 10 year old in me just wanted to scream with happiness and I am glad I lived to see stuff like this realized on the screen. I am not a fanboy or love every Marvel movie but what they have accomplished over their 22 film arc in 10 years is nothing short of amazing. It makes me sad that we are missing the same thing on the other side with the DC characters.

Loved everything with Captain America. His films have been the best written and Chris Evans just owns the part 100%. The love story between him and Peggy is just so wonderful and emotional that it truly made me choke up in all of his movies when it deals with them. Robert Downey Jr. was fantastic and did some of his best work in this movie. All the others were exceptional as well.

I didn't like Brainy Hulk. Found him strange looking and annoying. Give me "Hulk Smash" any day over Ruffalo's weird face on the Hulk's body talking in a normal voice. It was just strange and not funny (like they were going for) or interesting (it was plainly dull). And to not have Hulk go apeshit on Thanos at all was a little disappointing. That being said, the final battle scene was fantastic. Somehow Marvel was able to make a still suspenseful battle even though you know the Avengers are going to win somehow.

Sorry...not a lady hater at all but the lady ensemble part stuck out like a sore thumb. It didn't bug me but it just seemed a little too..."HEY...LOOK AT THIS!. We have a bunch of women in the battle TOO!"

I liked fat Thor and think that his future adventures with GOTG should be a lot of fun! I am not looking forward to Falcon becoming the new Cap. I am just not a huge fan of the guy who plays Falcon and I think the actor who plays Bucky is far more interesting and could bring more to the role. The guy who plays Falcon just comes across as very vanillla and dull. Always has. He is fine for a back-up character but he doesn't seem to carry the same weight as the actors who portray IM, CA, Thor, or BP.

And I may be the only person but I long to use the time stone and go back and somehow fix whatever happened between Terrance Howard and the filmmakers and put him back in the Rhodey role. He would have done so much better than Don Cheadle has over all those other movies. Makes me sad.

Anyway...the Peter Parker/Tony Stark connection was freaking gold and heartbreaking. Just so well acted by both actors! I didn't mind Pepper in the Iron Woman armor and I felt that Captain Marvel was much ado about nothing. Her movie was mediocre and I still believe it made all that money just by lucky time placement and good PR. Where the fuck was Fury during the final battle? Why wasn't he shown directing some ships or something? He was missed.

The fight between Cap and himself was awesome. The callbacks to so much of the other movies was fantastic and enjoyable. You could complain that this movie doesn't stand on its own, and you would be correct....but why watch this movie without watching anything that came before it? As others have stated, Peter returning to high school and seeing his friend was strange, especially knowing his movie is coming up. Hopefully that stuff is explained.

Thor and his mother's scene together was fantastic and another heart-breaker. I thought the BW/HE fight to be the one to die went on a little too long. And I thought that IW established that to get the soul stone, you had to sacrifice the thing you loved most in the world. Was BW really the thing HE loved most in the world since his family died? I guess so but I just didn't 100% buy it.

And probably one of the few times that I can remember...the scene where Cap takes Thor's hammer...the theater went nuts. This was a 3/4 full theater at 4pm. I wasn't expecting it but people hollered, whooped, cheered, clapped, screamed and gasped at that scene. It was awesome! I haven't seen any reaction like that in the middle of a movie. It was extremely cool!

The music score was passable. It didn't really stand out but swelled when it needed to. The scene at the end with Cap and Peggy dancing was fantastic. Though it should have ended with that scene and left out old Cap having the conversation with Falcon. One more thumbs up for the final battle scene. Gooddamn...so exciting to see since when I grew up watching comic book movies and TV shows were mostly shit. Superman I & II was about as good as it got. And those were extremely rare. Fuck Tim Burton's Batman. That movie is overrated shit and deserves to be forgotten.

Even with my few minor quibbles, this is a 5 star movie. Loved it and plan to see it again at an AMC Prime without the 3D but with more ear-bleeding sound and moving chairs.

fujishig

If you want to get in the weeds, who was paying for Hawkeye's wife's cell phone bill?

I don't think that's how it works. Captain America traveled back into the past and stayed there. That forked off an alternate timeline where he grows old with Peggy Carter. He doesn't stay in "our" timeline/reality. Somehow he traveled back to our reality for the handoff of the shield, though. This isn't explained in the movie but it is in an interview earlier in the thread (because otherwise it makes no sense that Captain America could change the past and still wind up in the same reality)

So really, them going back and getting the stones basically forked off a bunch of new timelines. Even if they put things exactly back in place right after they got the stones, there is enough of a minor shift that it should fork a different reality. But they actually kind of screwed up and created four new very different timelines anyway.

The first is the one that Nebula/War Machine/Hawkeye/Widow went to. That one is majorly screwed up, because the Thanos of that timeline went into our reality and got dusted, so there's no Thanos there anymore. Presumably the soul stone got put back so someone else can sacrifice for it, and the one Starlord got was returned so Starlord could steal it. But no Thanos or his minions.

The second is the one that Cap/Iron Man/Ant Man/Hulk went to. They allowed Loki to get away with the Tessaract. Plus they allowed Ancient One a glimpse into the future.

The third is the one that Thor/Rocket went to. They talked to Frigga and took the hammer. They returned the hammer, but talking to Frigga could have altered something. That's probably the most minor one.

The fourth is where Iron Man and Cap jumped back a second time to re-get the Tesseract. Presumably that's the one Captain America went back and stayed in.

All of those are distinct from the main one where everyone was dusted by Thanos. You can't change the future because you just create a new future every time. This is actually similar to how things work in some other media, like Dragon Ball, for instance.

tanman

Actually I was just coming to post that I've been listening to the soundtrack for the past few days and it is really the best soundtrack in the MCU. Alan Silvestri did a great job on this. Most of the MCU, aside from the 20 second Avengers theme song, and Captain America's theme is pretty forgettable. I think he did a great job really evoking the emotion out of the scene. From the sombre mood in the first hour to the triumphant return of the hero's using the portals. To the sublime and simplistic call back to the aforementioned Captain America's theme. The score was just much better than the usually forgettable MCU fair.

Damn you and your logic Now I'm going to think about that every single time for that scene. And how he must have kept her phone on the charger too. I guess it could have been a landline.

Big Boy Laroux

Not sure if this was mentioned anywhere else. But I was talking with a friend about the 5 year gap, and it all the sudden dawned on me - "what happened to Ghost?"

She could have been snapped away, but if she wasn't, then she was presumably without the quantum materials she needed to survive, for 5 years. Which means she'd be dead.... Right?

Although, not sure how terminal her condition was after being "recharged" by Janet.

Spiderbite

One other thought...I agree the rat bringing Ant-Man back by walking over a button was too convenient. I would have rather seen some thieves breaking into the car to steal the electronics, kids or the tow yard owner doing it by accident. but again...a minor nit-pick.

Big Boy Laroux

Or - there were tons of aerial shots showing stuff just left places. Why would anyone have cared to move a van on the roof of a garage? A pigeon landing on the equipment could have even made more sense.

Spiderbite

I must have missed something then because I thought the car was impounded. It was all locked up to where AM had to ask for help out. It wasn't left that way when the others were snapped.

And you are telling me that an abandoned van filled with electronics you can see thru the windows wouldn't have been fucked with for 5 years? In a major city? I know the circumstances but really?

Big Boy Laroux

No, you are correct. It was impounded/in storage.

My statement was just an alternative - why was it even impounded in the first place, when other shots clearly shows abandoned vehicles everywhere?

Abob Teff

mwbmis

I posted this in the Marvel Disney TV thread, but after I saw it for a second time today it occurred to me that I want to see what Rocket and Nebula were up to in those five years. It's such an odd pairing.

Abob Teff

Daytripper

Extremely satisfying ending. Loved every minute of it.

Draven

tanman

Oh yeah that's a good question. I guess she could have been snapped away.

Jason

I love them. They're well crafted, usually well cast, and they treat the source material with respect. Something that's been sorely lacking in a lot of past outings. Do you think the people who cast George Clooney as Batman had any respect for the character? Are they formulaic? Sure. But what movie isn't?

If you don't like them, don't watch them. From my experience with Fast and Furious, Harry Potter, and Twilight, this strategy is pretty much foolproof.