boredsilly

If there is a movie not to have one, it was either Infinity War or this one. I found it fitting. And yeah, this wasn't the time to be teasing the next thing, just let this one sit for a minute.

If they had one what it would have been was Steve dancing with Peggy, and honestly I'm glad they just had that in the movie proper.

Nesbit

I get that and it's not even about them being female. Place a pointy hat on half of the people on the battlefield and the chances of ten people with pointy hats and no one else coming together in that moment is pretty low and those odds only even align if half the people on the battlefield were female which I don't think they were so it's even more unlikely.

Whatever. Not arguing this point anymore because I'm not arguing from a place of being offended (I actually thought the scene played out ok despite being kinda cheesy) in any way and those who will argue it mostly will be.

nickdawgy

I found out before the movie there was no end credits scene. I enjoyed leaving right away and being able to easily escape a theater that was packed full for a 10pm showing. There were no parking spaces left. People were parking in the field across the street. I chuckled when my wife and I were joined by maybe 6-7 people after the movie ended. Everyone else just sat there.

TomOpus

It's not often we get a movie with poll results so high.

nickdawgy

I didn’t read the whole thread so I’m not sure if it was mentioned already but the scene with Cap A and Thor’s hammer was probably a nod to Ultron when Thor was seeing who could pick it up and Cap A was the only one that moved it even a little bit. He even caused Thor to make an “oh shit” face.

Nesbit

I love the scene with Tony and Nebula playing finger football. When she won she acted shocked and it took me back to when she said Thanos used to pit her and Gamora against each other and that she never won. I wonder if Nebula ever won at anything before that.

The Antipodean

Shoveler

Having slept on it now, the paradox issues bother me even more, am I the only one?! It wouldn't be as bad if they hadn't been very clear about their need to preserve the single timeline by return each stone to the exact moment from which it was taken, thus preserving their own past. By the end of the movie, they had radically changed the past, effectively preventing the original snap from ever happening. This is even worse than if they had traveled into the past and created a divergent timeline, the only possible explanation is that they traveled into some divergent past. Don't get me wrong, I still loved this movie, but it is far from flawless, and someone will have to come up with a damn good explanation to satisfy me on the time problem.

dex14

It's already been said FFH takes place after.

My question about that though is... we're now 5 years into the future... and you just go back to school like its all ok? What about the kids in his class that weren't dusted? Did they just go on with school. I guess all the core friends that are in FFH were dusted and come back. But then the year is 5 years later, how old do you say you are!?!?!?

dex14

Yea, that was pretty shitty. A rat hits the switch? That's how he comes back. I mean... wow. A little more thought could've been put into that and a little less deus ex machina.

dex14

Yup. Seemed like they just used archival footage to me. And went out of the way to not have more of her in the scene.

Obi-Wanma

He's in Spider-Man in 2 months.

stingermck

So after sleeping on it, I can articulate some thoughts now. This was Caps movie thru and thru, and I loved that. I give RDJ all the credit for helping jump start this, but I credit Evans for keeping it going. His casting is as perfect as Reeve Superman.

I am also trying to figure out Spider-Mans timeline now. Half his classmates lives and went to college, so where is he now? Still in HS? Faking college? Guess we will find out soon.

The time travel scenes were great tho, especially the battle for NY. Great call back to the recent comics with Cap saying Hail Hydra.

I teared up when I heard Avengers Assemble. The biggest cheers of the sold out crowd were Cap first getting Thor's hammer, Assemble, Black Panther coming thru the portal, and a huge cheer for Spider-Man swinging out. It's great how insanely popular he still is.

What an amazing feet Marvel and Disney have pulled off.

Nesbit

tanman

tanman

This video kind of explains Steve Roger's time traveling. I think it's a satisfactory explanation.

csant

I liked Captain Marvel in her own movie on here she just felt out of place and weird. I mean, I guess I'm cool with the explanation they gave for her being missing and all. But her appearance at the end was blah. I kinda felt like she should've had a longer fight with Thanos.

tanman

I agree. As satisfying as this movie is there are even more moments they could have put in. However, for Cap and Bucky I think their moment is subtly there. I watched a youtube video and agree that I think Cap tells Bucky his plan ahead of time. And he does seem to play it that way. So their goodbye is a lot more significant that way. Plus they do have that throwback line to when Bucky left for WWII which was nice as well.

Yeah I agree. Since it happened in the middle of the movie and time travel was in play her death wasn't as impactful as it should have been. I'm still trying to process that and the fact that the "new" Gamora didn't have any of the experiences with the GotG and basically erases all of her experiences with them.

I thought they actually handled her pretty well. Yeah I would have rather had her have more interactions with the Avengers but at the same time it was nice that they treated her as the new girl and didn't give her too much screen time and instead focused on the OG Avengers. With Feige saying she will be taking over as the leader and such I was afraid they would dedicate too much screen time on her. Also yeah she is a bit of a Deus Ex Machina so it will be interesting to see what they do with her character after this.

Agreed. And I think IW did a better job with these little character moments and making sure everyone shined for a few seconds. Like Groot didn't do anything which was disappointing. However, I think you just have to look at IW and EG as one movie so he had moments Actually now that I think of it Hulk was really robbed because he didn't even show up for IW after getting his ass handed to him in the first opening scene.

Yeah I agree. I don't think I'm overstating this to say that this is cinema history. There will never be a movie like this ever again. To see 10 years and 22 movies wrapped up so well and paid off so well, especially emotionally, is something we will never see again. Yeah eventually they'll bring the fantastic 4 in the fold as well as new versions of the X-Men but it will never reach the level of greatness that this franchise achieved. To keep the same level of quality throughout all the movies (seriously at least the "bad" ones aren't really that bad and still fit within the overall narrative). There will just never be anything like it again. It's like I almost wish they wouldn't make any more MCU movies because this was just such a beautiful ending.

tanman

Yep it sure was. That's what's amazing about this movie. A little nod years ago in a different movie turns into an amazing wow moment now.

I never thought of that. That's a great point and another example of such a small character developing moment that makes this movie so great. And then later, while he's dying, she picks him up and places him in a more respectable position so he can die sitting upright at his post.

In the credits there is someone that is credited as a Stan Lee stand in. So unfortunately I don't think they filmed his cameo for this movie. So it was a creative way for him to still have a cameo even if it's execution was pretty terrible.

tanman

I think her excuse worked much better than I thought. It fits within the universe and when she explains that other worlds don't have the Avenges I thought that made sense.

tanman

So on the Blu-Ray release are we going to eventually get 14,000,604 director's cuts of the film?

tanman

I don't know I think I'm fine with it. For one it's not like its something that happens just in the nick of time. It takes 5 years for it to happen. Also it would either be unbelievable for one of the other Avengers to know about their experiment or it would take a lot of screen time to explain it. I guess they could have had someone obtaining the van and putting a new battery in it or something like that but I'm okay with the rat.

rocket1312

You're right. I forgot about that. I still stand by what I said though. Feels weird to put a bow on the Avengers era and have Fury log less screentime than Frigga or the Ancient One. Maybe it's because I just rewatched Ultron and was reminded that he basically disappeared after that movie.

On the issue of end credits scene, I'm glad they didn't do one. One of my biggest gripes with the series is that they always seemed to be pushing the next movie, sometimes even at the expense of the current one. Glad they let this one stand alone.

rocket1312

I don't think there's any rule with regards to when you shoot your scene for a movie. If you appear, you appear. Not much more to it than that. I assume Carrie Fisher will be credited in ep 9.

rocket1312

Time travel movies will do that to you. My question is why were the finger snap deaths reversible but the others were not? It was like anyone killed by the gauntlet didn't die by legitimate means or something. Am I forgetting some explanation?