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Greg MacGuffin 04-01-19 08:06 PM

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One thing worth mentioning about Hands Across America - it raised tens of millions of dollars for the homeless and hungry but less than half of the money ended up going to the people it was supposed to go toward.

Abob Teff 04-01-19 08:20 PM

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I’m with you Mike. I understand the proposed symbolic meanings, but in the course of the story it really didn’t matter and certainly didn’t serve a purpose. Who is this symbolic gesture (in movie) supposed to be a showing for? They were killing everybody. It just felt like one of those shoehorned references: Oh, look! It’s the 80s alright!

The one symbolic meaning that I have heard proposed that does not work is comparing it to Trump’s Dream Wall. They weren’t holding hands to keep people out or to stake their boundaries. They killed everybody they could. It wasn’t as if they claimed territory and told “above ground” people to stay out of their area.

Abob Teff 04-01-19 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13526237)
Same. Plus didn't Red say the other girl ran? And Red also wondered why she didn't take her with her. So why would one believe there was a switch?

Something interesting I heard on a podcast: Peele (supposedly) said in an interview that Red may not be a reliable narrator. That could change so many things in the story ...

Giantrobo 04-02-19 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 13526378)

I know about Hands Across America. I still don’t exactly understand its significance though. :shrug: I guess I need it explained, but it felt like something random to throw in. Like I get because the tethered are trying to break free of their link to the people above ground but I don’t get it beyond that.


Originally Posted by Abob Teff (Post 13526406)
I’m with you Mike. I understand the proposed symbolic meanings, but in the course of the story it really didn’t matter and certainly didn’t serve a purpose. Who is this symbolic gesture (in movie) supposed to be a showing for? They were killing everybody. It just felt like one of those shoehorned references: Oh, look! It’s the 80s alright!

The one symbolic meaning that I have heard proposed that does not work is comparing it to Trump’s Dream Wall. They weren’t holding hands to keep people out or to stake their boundaries. They killed everybody they could. It wasn’t as if they claimed territory and told “above ground” people to stay out of their area.


It was what Red focused on and weaved into her Uprising as she planned it over 30 years; and it also helped identify Red as the real Adelaide. It's just that simple. In the flashback it showed Red creating a shrine with the HAA shirt as the centerpiece. It meant something to Red...

Giantrobo 04-02-19 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Abob Teff (Post 13526408)


Something interesting I heard on a podcast: Peele (supposedly) said in an interview that Red may not be a reliable narrator. That could change so many things in the story ...


I don't buy that. Even if true, not all the flashbacks were Red talking. Some were just Peele showing us what happened.

Mike86 04-02-19 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13526703)
It was what Red focused on and weaved into her Uprising as she planned it over 30 years; and it also helped identify Red as the real Adelaide. It's just that simple. In the flashback it showed Red creating a shrine with the HAA shirt as the centerpiece. It meant something to Red...

If anything to me the idea that they’d want to join hands seems kind of contrary to the idea of them wanting to break free of being tethered. I don’t know it’s kind of weird symbolism to me. I did like the movie overall, but I just don’t think that aspect was exactly necessary or made a lot of sense.

DaveNinja 04-02-19 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 13526222)
I thought it would have been a much stronger film had it just stuck with your first point.

I made this point in my earlier post but I wonder how much say the city of Santa Cruz, CA had in what could be shown in or around the Boardwalk as well as East Cliff Drive areas. We are supposed to believe that chaos is all around us but many of these locations looks severely undressed with mayhem, almost to the point of looking amateurish in execution (minus the car scene with Pluto).

Tourism is a $700 million dollar industry for Santa Cruz, CA, so I wonder if they put limitations on Jordan Peele.

The attacks happened in the middle of the night. I just figured most people were killed in their houses.
I did feel bad for the extras that were the "hands across america" tethered that had to stand in the San Lorenzo river at the beach. When it isnt flowing strong enough to connect to the ocean (as seen earlier), its pretty polluted. I always found it pretty gross when the tourists would ignore the signs and let their kids swim in it. So much duck poo.
I grew up in Santa Cruz and even worked at the Boardwalk when I was a teenager.
I don't know where the lake house was filmed but it doesnt look like anything near santa cruz; wrong trees.

asianxcore 04-02-19 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveNinja (Post 13526719)
The attacks happened in the middle of the night. I just figured most people were killed in their houses.

Completely understandable.

Still, I wished they would have staged a bit more mayhem in the daylight at the Boardwalk & East Cliff Drive.

Much of it is left to our imagination and framed by a single (but short) News Broadcast of panic in the streets.

It just didn't connect for me.


Originally Posted by DaveNinja (Post 13526719)
I did feel bad for the extras that were the "hands across america" tethered that had to stand in the San Lorenzo river at the beach. When it isnt flowing strong enough to connect to the ocean (as seen earlier), its pretty polluted. I always found it pretty gross when the tourists would ignore the signs and let their kids swim in it. So much duck poo.

:wacko:

Mr. Flix 04-02-19 07:36 PM

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Saw this yesterday in a surprisingly full theater (for a Monday afternoon). I still don't know what I thought about it. Parts of the movie really worked for me, other parts failed miserably.

I have to say, I am shocked at the number of people talking about how funny it was. I didn't laugh once, nor did anyone else in my theater. Everyone was pretty much dead quiet throughout. I recognized a few attempts at humor, but none of them landed. I take that back -- one joke got a laugh, the "F*&% the Police" moment.

The chills, however, did work for the most part. I was on the edge of my seat several times. So I credit Peele at being able to build tension.

With both this and "Get Out" (and, to a certain extent, his involvement now in the "Twilight Zone" revival), I'm getting serious Shyamalan vibes from Peele. Both know how to build great atmosphere and tension, and both struggle to stick the landing, IMO.

All the pieces were there for this to be a really good movie, but it fell well short of the mark in the end. Too many stupid character moments, too many inconsistencies, and too much explanation at the end where ambiguity would've made the movie more memorable. Still, I'll be interested in seeing what Peele does next.

Abob Teff 04-02-19 09:29 PM

Re: Us (Peele, 2019) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13526703)
It was what Red focused on and weaved into her Uprising as she planned it over 30 years; and it also helped identify Red as the real Adelaide. It's just that simple. In the flashback it showed Red creating a shrine with the HAA shirt as the centerpiece. It meant something to Red...

Occam’s Razor ... I can live with that. In that manner it makes sense ... the misplaced understanding of a child. But it doesn’t work as a bigger metaphor, like many other pieces of the movie do.


Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 13526705)
I don't buy that. Even if true, not all the flashbacks were Red talking. Some were just Peele showing us what happened.

I think he said it in reference to the “clones created by the government” line, not necessarily the actual events of their switch. I’m not sure I buy it either, just reporting it. :)

Why So Blu? 04-02-19 10:58 PM

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^ Well, the rabbits were the food source to these "experiments." Remember, rabbits are also used in countless experiments, as well. Once the tethered were abandoned by their creators they kept raising the rabbits for food.

Mabuse 04-04-19 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flix (Post 13527044)
Saw this yesterday in a surprisingly full theater (for a Monday afternoon). I still don't know what I thought about it. Parts of the movie really worked for me, other parts failed miserably.

I have to say, I am shocked at the number of people talking about how funny it was. I didn't laugh once, nor did anyone else in my theater. Everyone was pretty much dead quiet throughout. I recognized a few attempts at humor, but none of them landed. I take that back -- one joke got a laugh, the "F*&% the Police" moment.

The chills, however, did work for the most part. I was on the edge of my seat several times. So I credit Peele at being able to build tension.

With both this and "Get Out" (and, to a certain extent, his involvement now in the "Twilight Zone" revival), I'm getting serious Shyamalan vibes from Peele. Both know how to build great atmosphere and tension, and both struggle to stick the landing, IMO.

All the pieces were there for this to be a really good movie, but it fell well short of the mark in the end. Too many stupid character moments, too many inconsistencies, and too much explanation at the end where ambiguity would've made the movie more memorable. Still, I'll be interested in seeing what Peele does next.

Or maybe Richard Kelly who kinda sorta made one great film by accident and hasn’t made anything good since. We shall see.

JZ1276 05-24-19 03:10 PM

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Got around to watching this and even though I was into it throughout, all I could think about when it ended were all the plot holes, mainly why the clones drew out murdering the family when that seemed to be the only purpose of invading the home. When the clones invaded the family's friends home, they were all murdered instantly but Red & co. took the time to give explanations, have the kids "play" with each other, have Abraham tie up Gabe, throw a bag on his head & take him out on the boat, etc. The clones could have easily murdered the entire family at any time as soon as they got into the house so why didn't they ?

The clones were a failed government experiment supposed to control Americans. When the experiment failed, wouldn't the obvious action be to kill all the clones? And here's a thought that I haven't seen mentioned; if the clones were an experiment to control Americans then wouldn't the Americans above ground be shadowing the tethered & NOT the other way around?

All in all very good, interesting movie, just too many plot holes.

Why So Blu? 05-25-19 12:52 AM

Re: Us (Peele, 2019) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 13555438)
Got around to watching this and even though I was into it throughout, all I could think about when it ended were all the plot holes, mainly why the clones drew out murdering the family when that seemed to be the only purpose of invading the home. When the clones invaded the family's friends home, they were all murdered instantly but Red & co. took the time to give explanations, have the kids "play" with each other, have Abraham tie up Gabe, throw a bag on his head & take him out on the boat, etc. The clones could have easily murdered the entire family at any time as soon as they got into the house so why didn't they ?

The clones were a failed government experiment supposed to control Americans. When the experiment failed, wouldn't the obvious action be to kill all the clones? And here's a thought that I haven't seen mentioned; if the clones were an experiment to control Americans then wouldn't the Americans above ground be shadowing the tethered & NOT the other way around?

All in all very good, interesting movie, just too many plot holes.

Watch it again and see if those plotholes close up. I was in the same predicament when I saw it the first time. It took a while to digest and when I saw it again, it made way more sense.

JZ1276 05-25-19 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 13555609)
Watch it again and see if those plotholes close up. I was in the same predicament when I saw it the first time. It took a while to digest and when I saw it again, it made way more sense.

I watched it less than 24 hours ago. After 20 minutes or so into the home invasion, I was convinced they were not there to murder the family but after getting to the point they obviously (at least to me) were. Did I miss something?


Trevor 05-25-19 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JZ1276 (Post 13555620)
I watched it less than 24 hours ago. After 20 minutes or so into the home invasion, I was convinced they were not there to murder the family but after getting to the point they obviously (at least to me) were. Did I miss something?

I think they toyed with that family more than others because it was her, you know. The key to them all getting out. She wanted to torture her(self) more.


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