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Old 01-22-19, 04:17 PM
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The first Bay film had shit designs on the robots, Optimus saying “my bad” and Bumblebee pissing on John Turturro. Agreed that this was a much better film directed by someone who isn’t up his own ass.
As someone who grew up well before the Transformers were on TV, I went into the first one with no knowledge of what they supposed to look like. I enjoyed the first one for what it was. A little action, a little humor, a little Megan Fox playing a high school girl with glistening skin who is supposed to be a car expert yet says the fuel injected car has a carburetor. Bumblebee is the same basic approach and story. They were both enjoyable and worth an occasional re-watch. The follow up Bay films went from bad to worse. I had no idea who any of these robots were as they wrestled around and made noise like they were at an orgy. That roommate in the second one drove me up the wall. [chandler bing] Could he talk any faster?[/chandler bing]
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By the way, in case you forgot the movie was set in 1987, the soundtrack reminded you roughly every 87 seconds.
Eh, no different than a movie set today with the latest pop track every other scene.
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Calling this movie the "best" of the Transformers movies is the literal definition of "damning with faint praise".

Good movie, solid movie, but nothing special or inspiring. As a kids movie and a Transformers cartoon extrapolated to live-action, it was fine. Decent. Nothing more. Much of the character building and slapstick had been done before in other (aforementioned and better) movies.
And that was enough to hit it out of the park. We're not expecting much out of a Transformers movie. It's the very definition of a popcorn movie. Junk food. But this one actually had charm and a healthy heaping dose of nostalgia. That was enough. Think of it like a rebuilding year for a college football team. We're just happy to be in a bowl game.

And you're right about it being done before. But did any of those other movies have Optimus Prime? No.
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Calling this movie the "best" of the Transformers movies is the literal definition of "damning with faint praise".

Good movie, solid movie, ....
Well "good & solid" is actually high praise compared to "complete and utter shit." - which the Bay movies are

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... but nothing special or inspiring.
What kind of inspiration do you expect of an action movie? <- genuine question
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And you're right about it being done before. But did any of those other movies have Optimus Prime? No.
which means that much of the movie's appeal depends on how much nostalgia value you place in the entire franchise. I liked the movie (and think it's the best of the Transformers movies, for whatever that's worth) but it remains slight, charming, disposable entertainment at best.
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What kind of inspiration do you expect of an action movie? <- genuine question
The type you get from, say, The Wild Bunch, Die Hard, Seven Samurai, Aliens, T2, Hard Boiled, etc.? I'm not comparing Bumblebee to those movies, because that would be an exercise in futility. But you can find ANY film inspiring if it elevates itself beyond the limitations of its genre and strikes a the right emotional chords.

I will say I like the movie more, now that I've given it more thought and reflection, but it still reminds cheerful, well made, enjoyable (if disposable) popcorn and little else,
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which means that much of the movie's appeal depends on how much nostalgia value you place in the entire franchise. I liked the movie (and think it's the best of the Transformers movies, for whatever that's worth) but it remains slight, charming, disposable entertainment at best.
Oh it totally does for me and I know that a large part of the reason why I like it is nostalgia. I will totally admit that.

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The type you get from, say, The Wild Bunch, Die Hard, Seven Samurai, Aliens, T2, Hard Boiled, etc.? I'm not comparing Bumblebee to those movies, because that would be an exercise in futility. But you can find ANY film inspiring if it elevates itself beyond the limitations of its genre and strikes a the right emotional chords.

I will say I like the movie more, now that I've given it more thought and reflection, but it still reminds cheerful, well made, enjoyable (if disposable) popcorn and little else,
Oh yes that's exactly what it is. I think we're all in agreement on what the movie is it's just some of us hold it a little higher on the platform because we are either fans of the original cartoon or in comparison to the other terrible movies. Fans really weren't asking for that much, the bar has been set that low.
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Watching it again and thinking about it some more I'm pretty surprised at how no one has really complained about just how short the cybertron scenes were. Watching them on youtube they really total only about 5 mins of the whole movie. But they were such well done fan service and the rest of the movie was interesting enough that you didn't really notice it.

I think a lot of the credit goes to Haliee Steinfeld and the script. It's pretty hard to hold the audiences attention when they are really there to see giant robots transform and beat each other up. Yet that's just what she did. I was just as invested in what was going on with her as what was going on with Bumblebee.
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Watching it again and thinking about it some more I'm pretty surprised at how no one has really complained about just how short the cybertron scenes were. Watching them on youtube they really total only about 5 mins of the whole movie. But they were such well done fan service and the rest of the movie was interesting enough that you didn't really notice it.
Finally got a chance to watch the film this morning.

I absolutely loved those scenes on Cybertron. While I initially didn't feel the lack of Transformers early on, I think that was due to the fact that the first 15-minutes of the film include that scene as well as the appearance of Blitzwing on Earth. After that, the (aptly named) Bumblebee is the star, along with a trove of humans. Waiting for more Transformers to show up, including (Decepticons) Shatter & Dropkick was a bit rough though.

As expected the film is light on Plot but I still felt it was enjoyable due to that opening scene as well as the performances from Hailee Stenfield and her interactions with Bumblebee. Didn't care about anyone else in the film.

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And I had no idea who the 2 main villains were, which was kind of disappointing given how recognizable all the other Transformers were.
This is completely understandable.

Shatter (Red Decepticon) didn't exist in any form in the Transformers Universe. She's a brand new character.

Dropkick (Blue Decepticon) had a G1 incarnation before but it was radically different. His current form showed up in the IDW Comics and a few of the Transformer games.

Blitzwing (who shows up early on in the film, damaging Bumblebee's voice) was in G1 but in a different form. He was originally colored Purple & Beige and could transform into a Tank or a Jet.

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The first 5 minutes of this film are better than the entire Bay shit-verse he directed.
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The first 5 minutes of this film are better than the entire Bay shit-verse he directed.
And they're the only five minutes of this movie that are any good, too.

This was nothing like Bay's films because this only had a lame story and none of the Bayhem, which isn't always a good thing but, guys, really, does anybody believe the girl-and-car story here is any more well written than whatever was in Bay's films? Sure, it kept exposition sorta light and it told a simple story but it was filled with contrivances and cliches. Steinfeld is a good actress and easy on the eyes, but none of the material she was given did her any favors. And, man, I like John Cena as a person but he just doesn't not have the right abilities to be an actor in roles this large. He has less range than The Rock. I had expected a lot more from this one given the good reviews but it's mostly fans wanking over the G-1 designs and getting a boner because Bay didn't direct.
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recently saw it. Liked it a lot, way better than the last few (haven't even bothered to see the last one prior to Bumblebee yet)
It was nice that the decepticons were each unique and not all just generic gray

And it had the Touch. yeah that song is cheesy as hell but as someone that was a kid in the 80s and loved the original movie it was great hearing it

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This was nothing like Bay's films because this only had a lame story and none of the Bayhem, which isn't always a good thing but, guys, really, does anybody believe the girl-and-car story here is any more well written than whatever was in Bay's films?
Yes. It had more heart and charm than anything that has ever been in any Bay Transformers movie. They tried to do the "boy and his car" thing with Sam and Bumblebee in the series prior to this and failed miserably. Here they nailed it.
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And they're the only five minutes of this movie that are any good, too.

This was nothing like Bay's films because this only had a lame story and none of the Bayhem, which isn't always a good thing but, guys, really, does anybody believe the girl-and-car story here is any more well written than whatever was in Bay's films? Sure, it kept exposition sorta light and it told a simple story but it was filled with contrivances and cliches. Steinfeld is a good actress and easy on the eyes, but none of the material she was given did her any favors. And, man, I like John Cena as a person but he just doesn't not have the right abilities to be an actor in roles this large. He has less range than The Rock. I had expected a lot more from this one given the good reviews but it's mostly fans wanking over the G-1 designs and getting a boner because Bay didn't direct.
Yes.

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Indeed.
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I liked this one quite a bit. The only thing I preferred Bay's movies over this one is Bay's transformers felt like they had more heft to them. The ones in Bumblebee didn't seem to have as much weight that a giant chunk of metal should have. Minor gripe, and I hope for more in the Bumblebee style.
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The trailer was way better than the actual film. It looks like we were going to get an actual G1 accurate villain for the film (Starscream), but it turns out it's a Decepticon that only happens to look like him and he gets dispatched really early in the film. The main Decepticon villains are just some made up, disposable ones: "Dropkick" and "Shatter."

I agree with islandclaws. The relationship between Bumblebee and his human friend weren't any better than what we've seen in the Bay films. And you still had moronic caricatures for parents, the cheesy and stupid Sector 7/military angle, and a ton of unnecessary cliches. But at least we didn't get any racial stereotypes and Transformers testicles.
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