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Old 09-06-19, 04:56 PM
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

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Well, that's a straight up sexist remark and women would take offense to that statement. I would never say anything like that. It's very humiliating and basically your telling them they are powerless. You, sir, are sexist and women would literary tell you to fuck off.
Nice try.


Please stop being so offended.
No one is offended. It's more like, at least for me, I can't believe people are still acting like cavemen when it comes to women calling Hollywood on their shit for the pay gap.


I have no resolution to the pay gap and neither do you. You just liked being offended and outraged. It's sad things really don't change and they really haven't since recorded time but it's good that people are aware but sadly there really isn't a solution to all this.
You truly sound like a certain type of person. I guess next you'll call me a "Snowflake"... But still the solution is easy. Pay women fairly. Just that simple.
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Old 09-06-19, 05:15 PM
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Nice try.




No one is offended. It's more like, at least for me, I can't believe people are still acting like cavemen when it comes to women calling Hollywood on their shit for the pay gap.



You truly sound like a certain type of person. I guess next you'll call me a "Snowflake"... But still the solution is easy. Pay women fairly. Just that simple.
If it's all so simple why doesn't it just happen? It's so easy to complain but when it comes to having a true solution you really don't have the answer. Quit fooling yourself.

....and yeah if you do ask people with common sense and without any context of this conversation; your question comes across as sexist. Between the lines your tellIing women they are powerless; even more so if they fight a battle by themselves.

I forgot to add...yeah, you are offended since you keep responding to my simple comment with all kinds of shit and making it bigger than it is. Yeah....offended. Let it go.

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Old 09-06-19, 09:02 PM
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

Bring it down a notch folks - or I'll close and/or remove some of the remarks being made here.
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

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If it's all so simple why doesn't it just happen? It's so easy to complain but when it comes to having a true solution you really don't have the answer. Quit fooling yourself.

....and yeah if you do ask people with common sense and without any context of this conversation; your question comes across as sexist. Between the lines your tellIing women they are powerless; even more so if they fight a battle by themselves.

I forgot to add...yeah, you are offended since you keep responding to my simple comment with all kinds of shit and making it bigger than it is. Yeah....offended. Let it go.

How about they just pay her (the Asian lady) the 800k that the white guy will get for writing a film about Asians? The film is a guaranteed 200 million dollar money-maker (at the very least). It's pure and fucking simple. That's what you should be championing for instead this bullshit about her just shutting her mouth and taking the scraps they're giving her. Seriously.
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

Good for Adele Lim.

As an asian person who had to do something similar in my own field that still does not do that well in minority representation (where I’ve had 2 decades of experience in), it has nothing to do with being “offended” and more to do with (1) not having to stand for being taken for granted and (2) them needing you more than you need them.

In my case, after the president of my former company heard I was leaving, she asked to meet with me (mainly because the client praised me by name during an account review with her - otherwise, it’s large enough of a company where I’m just another faceless cog) and after our talk, she said “I was going to offer you more money, but you’re not going to take it, are you?” and I was pretty much “Nope”.

Overall, not exactly in the same position as Adele Lim, but close enough where I can completely understand her position and the decisions she made. Accepting or staying would diminish oneself, and there’s a certain point where that’s not worth it.

Good for Adele Lim.
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How about they just pay her (the Asian lady) the 800k that the white guy will get for writing a film about Asians? The film is a guaranteed 200 million dollar money-maker (at the very least). It's pure and fucking simple. That's what you should be championing for instead this bullshit about her just shutting her mouth and taking the scraps they're giving her. Seriously.
So, just because she is Asian I should back her? Fuck that. It was that soy sauce comment that basically clumped all Asians as the same. It'a like saying we all know kung fu and are good at math. That was my issue and not the salary issue. I don't back someone just because we are the same race and using race as a crutch is the dumbest thing any individual can do. I'd like to believe most people are beyond using their race as an excuse for their troubles. It's so obvious you think it's so much easier to use the race card and blame others for your personal issues.

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Old 09-08-19, 12:19 AM
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

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How about they just pay her (the Asian lady) the 800k that the white guy will get for writing a film about Asians? The film is a guaranteed 200 million dollar money-maker (at the very least). It's pure and fucking simple. That's what you should be championing for instead this bullshit about her just shutting her mouth and taking the scraps they're giving her. Seriously.
This is as old as the hills...
100 years ago, someone penned "The world DOESN'T owe you a living."
These days, we have a lot of people who feel entitled...that they somehow deserve more than what they currently receive.

The fact is big-time movie screenwriters (and actors and directors) are independent CONTRACTORS, not studio employees.

This particular screenwriter feels shortchanged...fine, then she should fire the agent who negotiated the contract.
To cry "victim" is complete B.S.
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This is as old as the hills...
100 years ago, someone penned "The world DOESN'T owe you a living."
These days, we have a lot of people who feel entitled...that they somehow deserve more than what they currently receive.

The fact is big-time movie screenwriters (and actors and directors) are independent CONTRACTORS, not studio employees.

This particular screenwriter feels shortchanged...fine, then she should fire the agent who negotiated the contract.
To cry "victim" is complete B.S.
Victim? Why should she not get the same amount as the guy? Forget the race issue then, why should she not get the same amount as the guy? Don't give me any bullshit about the guy having more experience. They both wrote the first film together and the studio wants to pay HIM almost a million, while she gets 100K.
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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

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Victim? Why should she not get the same amount as the guy? Forget the race issue then, why should she not get the same amount as the guy? Don't give me any bullshit about the guy having more experience. They both wrote the first film together and the studio wants to pay HIM almost a million, while she gets 100K.
I answered your concern in the previous post.

See below:
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The fact is big-time movie screenwriters (and actors and directors) are independent CONTRACTORS, not studio employees.

This particular screenwriter feels shortchanged...fine, then she should fire the agent who negotiated the contract.
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Old 09-08-19, 05:14 PM
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Nah, you're deflecting. I'd wager that if she's personally making a statement then she may have gotten a different agent already. Whatever, I guess she should be grateful and just write, and bake a cake while she's at it.
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The movie made 8 times its budget. She absolutely deserved a significant raise. She got ripped off with that offer. And regarding the Soy Sauce comment which seems to have touched a nerve. If she wasn’t involved with the script development, Crazy Rich Asians would have been just any generic romantic comedy that stars Sandra Bullock, Reese Witherspoon or Jen Aniston. She added the Asian influence and culture in the script. That’s why she was brought on in the first movie by Jon Chu. And that’s why I think she made the comment because she felt her work was undervalued. It’s both frustration and using THR to speak up for others who maybe are afraid to speak their minds.

And maybe people outside the writing community aren’t up at arms about this because they feel it’s not their place to chime in on this issue.

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Re: China Rich Girlfriend -- Crazy Rich Asians 2 (D: John M. Chu)

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Nah, you're deflecting.
Not so much.
I'd wager that if she's personally making a statement then she may have gotten a different agent already.
Possibly so...if she's smart.
Whatever, I guess she should be grateful and just write, and bake a cake while she's at it.
No, she needs to write a great screenplay and peddle it for higher bucks than what she received last time out.

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She absolutely deserved a significant raise.
NOT a "raise," she didn't/doesn't work for the studio...again, she's an Independent Contractor.
However, her Market Value should be considerably higher due to the success of the movie.
She got ripped off with that offer.
It is/was the responsibility of her AGENT to negotiate a better deal.
If she wasn’t involved with the script development, Crazy Rich Asians would have been just any generic romantic comedy that stars Sandra Bullock, Reese Witherspoon or Jen Aniston.
Maybe, maybe not...we'll never know exactly what the extent of her contribution was.


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OK, he made it official: she picked up her pencils and went home unhappy.
Not much more to say about this other than he doesn't consider it to be racial issue that led to her departure.
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OK, he made it official: she picked up her pencils and went home unhappy.
Not much more to say about this other than he doesn't consider it to be racial issue that led to her departure.


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OK, he made it official: she picked up her pencils and went home unhappy.
Not much more to say about this other than he doesn't consider it to be racial issue that led to her departure.
Yeah, it's obvious that Jon is sexist and a self-loathing Asian.
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