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Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
07-06-18, 04:51 PM
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This was a fun time. All the supporting players were great. Awesome to see Michael Peña and Walton Goggins share the screen again, when both of them have come so far.
07-06-18, 05:56 PM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
OK, some comments and personal analysis of the mid credits scene...
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07-06-18, 06:26 PM
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07-06-18, 07:47 PM
#30
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Yeah, it definitely didn’t seem like weeks went by during Infinity War to me either.
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07-06-18, 08:16 PM
#31
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A great deal of fun and I agree with it being better than the first.
I saw RP1 but don't remember her. She certainly caught my attention here. Then again, when any chick goes gothy:
One missed opportunity was Stan Lee's cameo. When Pym put the FBI outfit on, it would've been perfect if Stan walked by in the same outfit. What they ended up using was weak.
I saw RP1 but don't remember her. She certainly caught my attention here. Then again, when any chick goes gothy:
One missed opportunity was Stan Lee's cameo. When Pym put the FBI outfit on, it would've been perfect if Stan walked by in the same outfit. What they ended up using was weak.
07-06-18, 08:30 PM
#32
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I had a lot of fun watching this today. Lots of humor. Michael Pena absolutely cracked me up. Loved his re-telling of the story of how he and Scott met with his voice over.
I love Scott's relationship with Cassie. Just a very sweet father daughter bond. Glad to see he's friendly with his ex and her new husband unlike so many other broken marriages portrayed in film and TV.
Evangeline Lilly really shined in this one as the Wasp.
The cliffhanger that tied into Infinity War was a nice touch. However, with the expected time travel element that's been talked about and speculated for Avengers 4, doesn't that basically retcon pretty much all the events of this movie? Unless they can bring back Pym, Hope and Janet at the same moment they were wiped out by Thanos? I'm curious how they can get Scott back from the Quantum Realm? Man, so many unanswered questions for the next 10 months to sit on.
The de-aging technology is just amazing. Douglas, Pfeiffer and Fishburne all looked great as their younger counterparts.
I love Scott's relationship with Cassie. Just a very sweet father daughter bond. Glad to see he's friendly with his ex and her new husband unlike so many other broken marriages portrayed in film and TV.
Evangeline Lilly really shined in this one as the Wasp.
The cliffhanger that tied into Infinity War was a nice touch. However, with the expected time travel element that's been talked about and speculated for Avengers 4, doesn't that basically retcon pretty much all the events of this movie? Unless they can bring back Pym, Hope and Janet at the same moment they were wiped out by Thanos? I'm curious how they can get Scott back from the Quantum Realm? Man, so many unanswered questions for the next 10 months to sit on.
The de-aging technology is just amazing. Douglas, Pfeiffer and Fishburne all looked great as their younger counterparts.
07-06-18, 08:33 PM
#33
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I loved it. This is everything a Marvel movie should be. I prefer the comedies over the straight action (Winter Soldier the exception) movies. The comedy was on-point, everything clicked. I liked it better than Ragnarok. Definitely on the top of my list for best Marvel movies.
07-06-18, 08:37 PM
#34
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
The cliffhanger that tied into Infinity War was a nice touch. However, with the expected time travel element that's been talked about and speculated for Avengers 4, doesn't that basically retcon pretty much all the events of this movie? Unless they can bring back Pym, Hope and Janet at the same moment they were wiped out by Thanos? I'm curious how they can get Scott back from the Quantum Realm? Man, so many unanswered questions for the next 10 months to sit on.
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07-06-18, 08:44 PM
#35
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07-06-18, 09:24 PM
#36
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I like the entire dynamic that he has with not only his daughter but the ex-wife and her boyfriend. They play really well off each other. Also like Michael Peña and the rest of his friends. I think overall the two Ant-Man films have one of the best supporting casts in addition to good leads.
07-06-18, 10:31 PM
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I think a fun extra would have been to have Michael Pena do his silly voice over to explain the entire MCU universe up until the Avengers 4. It'd be like a 30 minute standup.
This was a fun movie, and my kids even enjoyed it.
This was a fun movie, and my kids even enjoyed it.
07-06-18, 11:36 PM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
really the injection of fun needed after IW. Nice set up and yeah, Pena really knocked it out. I do like Paul's comedic take and it's very different than the other "funny" MCU characters.
07-06-18, 11:44 PM
#40
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Really enjoyed it (I like the first one a lot too). The creativity with the powers is unique in the MCU and always fun to see. A super fun flick! Rudd and Pena are fantastic and the de-aging stuff is getting mind blowing. I’m sure a whole movie is coming soon using it.
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07-07-18, 06:46 PM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Thought the first one was much funnier. The jokes here just fell flat. This one had too much quantum mumbo jumbo for my taste, especially the stuff with Ghost. Didn't get that part, or how Janet took over Scott's mind and body, or how she cured Ghost by simply touching her head. If I hadn't watched the trailers, maybe I would have enjoyed the constant changing from small to big and the chase through S.F., but I felt like I had already seen it. Wish Pfieffer's and Rudd's roles had been bigger: his felt like a supporting role even though he was the main star. Really disappointed.
07-07-18, 07:23 PM
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Fun as heck film. I like all 19, and Winter Soldier will likely never be topped, but the two Ant-Man films might be 2/3 for me.
07-07-18, 09:07 PM
#43
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Really enjoyed it (I like the first one a lot too). The creativity with the powers is unique in the MCU and always fun to see. A super fun flick! Rudd and Pena are fantastic and the de-aging stuff is getting mind blowing. I’m sure a whole movie is coming soon using it.
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I agree with your spoiler and I will scale back my commentary. I totally forgot about that.
07-07-18, 09:58 PM
#44
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Finally saw today, longer review tomorrow, but wow, that was the shot in the arm we needed after Infinity War. Just charming from start to finish - how cool that Scott created an Ant-Man heist for Cassie out of cardboard tunnels and slides, or Luis, the truth serum, and his whole experience with shrinking and being part of the team!
Wife also pointed out that this was the most family-friendly Marvel movie to date - nobody died (mid credit scene not withstanding), the action was kinetic, but not intense, and the rest of the movie was definitely PG level. It was almost a live action Big Hero 6 affair.
Much fun and we'll see it again.
Wife also pointed out that this was the most family-friendly Marvel movie to date - nobody died (mid credit scene not withstanding), the action was kinetic, but not intense, and the rest of the movie was definitely PG level. It was almost a live action Big Hero 6 affair.
Much fun and we'll see it again.
07-07-18, 10:06 PM
#45
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
This also kind of felt like the first Marvel movie without a real big bad villain to me. I mean sure I know Ghost is supposed to be but really she doesn’t do a lot of super villain stuff for the most part. She’s more just a pain in the ass to Ant-Man and company.
07-07-18, 10:50 PM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
One of my daughters has totally latched on to Marvel and I take her to all of them now. The other only cares about Spider-Man and Ant-Man.
Today I took all 3 of my daughters to see AM&W (my youngest wasn't ready yet in 2015), and we all had a great time.
07-08-18, 12:17 AM
#48
Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
The bumbling bad guys only got arrested. And even the FBI guy, the ex-wife, and her boyfriend are all friendly with Scott. Daughter loves him more than ever. Security business is booming thanks to them being on the news. Every possible thing worked out in their favor (except for that one moment which will be undone anyway), and that’s somewhat refreshing.
07-08-18, 01:38 AM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
The timeline issue is that there is clearly a time jump between the main movie and the end credits scene (long enough for Hank and Janet to go on vacation). By the end of the main sequence, Scott is no longer under house arrest. But the reason he (and Hawkeye) are not included in Avengers 3 is because he's under house arrest. So the timeline doesn't match up.
That's a nitpick, though, and I did quite enjoy the movie. I loved the interplay between Scott and Hope, and the interplay between Scott and Cassie. The physics of shrinking made no sense (as in the first movie), but they had a lot of fun with it and came up with some cool uses for the shrinking power.
I did have one major problem, which is that Ghost's entire role as an antagonist goes away if Hank Pym or Bill Foster can stop being a raging asshole for 15 seconds. Which makes it really hard to root for Team Ant, since they are completely in the wrong in terms of how they are reacting to Ghost. I think we got one line that was something like "We'll help you after we rescue my wife," and otherwise Hank didn't seem to give a shit that this woman was trying to save her own life, and Bill didn't seem to ever even think about going to Hank for help instead of stealing his lab.
That's a nitpick, though, and I did quite enjoy the movie. I loved the interplay between Scott and Hope, and the interplay between Scott and Cassie. The physics of shrinking made no sense (as in the first movie), but they had a lot of fun with it and came up with some cool uses for the shrinking power.
I did have one major problem, which is that Ghost's entire role as an antagonist goes away if Hank Pym or Bill Foster can stop being a raging asshole for 15 seconds. Which makes it really hard to root for Team Ant, since they are completely in the wrong in terms of how they are reacting to Ghost. I think we got one line that was something like "We'll help you after we rescue my wife," and otherwise Hank didn't seem to give a shit that this woman was trying to save her own life, and Bill didn't seem to ever even think about going to Hank for help instead of stealing his lab.
07-08-18, 02:15 AM
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Re: Ant-Man and the Wasp (Reed, 2018) — The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
I kind of view the line in Infinity War about him being on house arrest as that’s what they last know of him. Maybe they weren’t keeping close tabs on him necessarily. Not really a plot hole if you ask me and even if so it’s fairly minor as the only reason it would matter is to why he’s not in the film.
