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Old 05-04-18, 12:30 PM
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Sinemia -- Movie Pass competitor [Update: DEAD]

They just announced a new pricing model:

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/04/mo...subscriptions/

Sinemia, a MoviePass competitor that launched four years ago in Europe, has introduced some super-duper low-cost plans for seeing movies in theaters. Hereís the breakdown:

$4.99 per month: one ticket per month
$6.99 per month: two tickets per month
$9.99 per month: two tickets per month including 3D, 4D and IMAX
$14.99 per month: three tickets per month including 3D, 4D and IMAX
Now, I know what youíre thinking, and itís true. MoviePassís $9.99 per month subscription lets you see nearly an unlimited number of movies every month (one per day).


But thereís no way I would take full advantage of the ďunlimitedĒ offering. And Sinemia CEO Rifat Oguz recognizes that Iím not the only person like that.

ďNot everyone really needs an unlimited moviegoing experience,Ē Oguz told me. ďThe average in the U.S. is four movies per year.Ē

For me, at least, Sinemia is a more attractive offer because of one simple feature: advanced online ticketing. MoviePass requires you to be physically at the movie theater to purchase the tickets, and homie just canít play that. Thereís also the fact that Sinemia lets you see 3D, 4D and IMAX. Thatís not the case with MoviePass.

While Sinemia pays full price to movie theaters for every ticket purchased through its platform, Sinemia makes up for that via advertising deals with studios and restaurants. For example, when you open up the Sinemia app, the three movies you see featured at the top are paid for by studios wanting to promote their movies. As of right now, 85 percent of the companyís revenue comes from subscriptions with just 15 percent coming from advertising.

In the next 12 months, Sinemia hopes to launch its services in countries throughout Asia. Sinemia doesnít disclose monthly subscriber numbers, but says itís growing more than 50 percent every month.

Earlier this year, MoviePass sued Sinemia for copyright infringement, alleging Sinemia copied many of MoviePassís features. Specifically, MoviePass alleges Sinemia violated a patent pertaining to automatic authentication and one pertaining to a ticketing system. The litigation is ongoing, but Oguz said he generally likes competition and appreciates how MoviePass made this model popular.

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re: Sinemia -- Movie Pass competitor [Update: DEAD]

I get the 3 per month. And they work at my ArcLight and reserved seating.
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I get the 3 per month. And they work at my ArcLight and reserved seating.
How does the reserved seating work? Does it work with all the theaters?

I would almost be interested in this as a supplement to MP for 3D and IMAX movies but I really don't like that you have to pay the entire year up front.
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How does the reserved seating work? Does it work with all the theaters?

I would almost be interested in this as a supplement to MP for 3D and IMAX movies but I really don't like that you have to pay the entire year up front.
It works with all of my theaters - reserved or not. the only theaters it does not work with are the fancier IPIC Theaters.
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Looks like IMAX is limited to once a month. Can anyone with one of the higher plans confirm that, or if you can see two (or three) 3D films per month? Website is wonky on safari, can’t even confirm which theaters near me participate.
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re: Sinemia -- Movie Pass competitor [Update: DEAD]

I have heard this regularly (IMAX is only once per month) but I couldn’t find it when I looked at their TOS. I didn’t look real hard though.

Cue the guys from the MP thread telling you that you are wrong because it never happened to them ...
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re: Sinemia -- Movie Pass competitor [Update: DEAD]

I posted about them in the Movie Pass thread, they lie about it being "unrestricted".

From the TOS

27.16.With Sinemia Classic your tickets can be used for 2D movies and with Sinemia Elite, your tickets can be used for a 2D or 3D movie and one of your tickets can be used for either of the following technologies of your choice once every 30 days : IMAX 2D, IMAX 3D, XD, Dolby Atmos, ScreenX, Dbox, or 4DX.

And like I said before, it's not once per month, it's a rolling 30 days for the "premium" ticket so you're likely to get screwed at least one month.
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Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Cue the guys from the MP thread telling you that you are wrong because it never happened to them ...
Your hate has made you powerful.



Well, not really.
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Does it work with all the theaters?
https://www.sinemia.com/theater-list

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Looks like IMAX is limited to once a month. Can anyone with one of the higher plans confirm that, or if you can see two (or three) 3D films per month? Website is wonky on safari, canít even confirm which theaters near me participate.
From the FAQ:

Is there a 2D - 3D distinction? What about 4DX or DBOX?
With Sinemia Classic your tickets can be used for 2D movies and with Sinemia Elite, your tickets can be used for a 2D or 3D movie and one of your tickets can be used for either of the following technologies of your choice once every 30 days : IMAX 2D, IMAX 3D, XD, Dolby Atmos, ScreenX, Dbox, or 4DX
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https://www.sinemia.com/theater-list



From the FAQ:

Is there a 2D - 3D distinction? What about 4DX or DBOX?
With Sinemia Classic your tickets can be used for 2D movies and with Sinemia Elite, your tickets can be used for a 2D or 3D movie and one of your tickets can be used for either of the following technologies of your choice once every 30 days : IMAX 2D, IMAX 3D, XD, Dolby Atmos, ScreenX, Dbox, or 4DX
I meant the online ticketing. Does that work with all the theaters and if so how do you reserve your seat?

Yeah that limit on the IMAX and special screenings is messed up and really deceptive. They seem even worse than MP.
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https://www.sinemia.com/theater-list



From the FAQ:

Is there a 2D - 3D distinction? What about 4DX or DBOX?
With Sinemia Classic your tickets can be used for 2D movies and with Sinemia Elite, your tickets can be used for a 2D or 3D movie and one of your tickets can be used for either of the following technologies of your choice once every 30 days : IMAX 2D, IMAX 3D, XD, Dolby Atmos, ScreenX, Dbox, or 4DX

Am I on ignore?
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Am I on ignore?
Nah, I had just written up my reply a long time before submitting it, and you answered in the interim.
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I have heard this regularly (IMAX is only once per month) but I couldnít find it when I looked at their TOS. I didnít look real hard though.

Cue the guys from the MP thread telling you that you are wrong because it never happened to them ...
They only come out when you are wrong. Are you still scamming Moviepass?
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Weird that they even mention ScreenX benefits. There are exactly three theaters outside of Asia with that tech. One of them is here in Vegas. It's not a big deal really.
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They only come out when you are wrong. Are you still scamming Moviepass?
You mean when they think their reality supersedes all others. Close enough.

Just posted over in the MP thread ó yes, because buying a ticket for myself within MPís terms and not reselling it, exchanging it, or sneaking into another auditorium is a scam. Now Iíve moved on to using MP to buy hookers, blow, and new sports cars for all my friends.
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You mean when they think their reality supersedes all others. Close enough.
You realize that you just described yourself to a tee, right? That is exactly what you did over in the moviepass thread. And you were called out for it, then you cried and said you were done with the conversation, left and then made childish comments in an unrelated thread.

Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Just posted over in the MP thread — yes, because buying a ticket for myself within MP’s terms and not reselling it, exchanging it, or sneaking into another auditorium is a scam. Now I’ve moved on to using MP to buy hookers, blow, and new sports cars for all my friends.
Buying a ticket with the intentions of not going to that film because you want to give a "FUCK YOU" to Movie pass, which you admittedly did, is scamming Moviepass, yes. Buying a ticket for a movie other than the one you go to see is scamming Moviepass, yes. What really is so hard for you to understand about that? Talk about living in an altered reality.
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I got a ticket through Sinemia for IW tonight and since my ArcLight does not accept Sinemia directly through their system I had to get the tickets via Fandango -- it looks like Sinemia is no longer covering the "processing fee" that Fandango adds per ticket. You'll be on the hook for $1.50 per ticket through Fandango. Sinemia will only cover the ticket price itself. FYI -- It wasn't always like this -- Sinemia used to cover the whole thing.
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Darn, that was looking attractive, if they covered that fee. There've been a few times I did want to buy the ticket ahead of time. That said, there have only been a couple of times when I have not seen the movie I wanted to because of that. More often the issue is reserved seating, and by the time I decide to see the movie, all that's left are crappy seats, which Sinemia wouldn't help with.
Their faq does say "Advance ticket convenience fee is not covered by Sinemia."

Is '30 days' in Sinemia's definition always 30 days, ie, not a calendar month?
The pop up for a plan description says
"You can see 2 movies in a month (30 days) on 2 separate days".
So if you watch on the 16th and the 30th, you have to wait till the 16th and the 30th to watch a movie during the next month?

That is some serious fine print on the 3d/special formats. Although the plan description page does currently say "and AN experience in IMAX/4DX" so that's reasonably upfront.

I'm tempted by the couples plan but I don't know if I see enough movies, by myself or with my wife/son, to be worth two plans (and the hassle of two plans).

That said, I'm all for competition, and as long as you read the fine print and know what your entitlements are, this seems like a reasonably good offer (depending on that '30 day' thing.)
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It's not a big deal. Considering they want you to use Fandango to buy the ticket for an ArcLight screening -- they're actually paying more for it. $1.50 is nothing. It would be cheaper if they would pay for it using ArcLight's website directly but I guess they don't have an agreement in place yet.
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Ok, now for the really controversial and pressing question ... how do you pronounce Sinemia?

sih-NEE-mee-uh (like “anemia”)

sin-uh-MEE-uh (like “Momma Mia”)
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Iíve been doing the second.
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Thereís a third way you could pronounce it:

sih-NEH-mee-uh / sih-NUH-mee-uh

Thatís how I think of it.
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Yeah I would think it's supposed to sound like "cinema" so that first one is out, at least. Unless people pronounce that "sin-NEE-muh" in which case, they're wrong.
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Makes sense that it would be pronounced like cinema but I don't know why they named it sinema. It sounds like a seedy 70's porn theater.
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I had the same thought. What makes it odd, though, is the ďiĒ in the last syllable. Thatís what makes everyone unsure of how to pronounce it.
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