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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

....it's been clearly marketed as a "young Tony" movie
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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....it's been clearly marketed as a "young Tony" movie
The trailer certainly did. The posters are pretty clear that they're not telling Tony's story
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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....it's been clearly marketed as a "young Tony" movie
David Chase wasn't happy about that OR "A Sopranos Story" that got put on the trailer/posters. But he said he was so tired of fighting with Warners/HBO, he just let them do it.
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I was disappointed in this movie and here are a few reasons:
  • This felt like this was supposed to be a short multi episode tv show - but they cut out a lot of stuff to make the run time 2 hrs and call it a 'Movie'
  • The Ray Liotta 2 character performance was a WTF?!?! moment - I actually paused the show and rewound the show thinking it jumped ahead and I missed a flash back. It was like they made the first Character such an a-hole and had to "wack" someone.. that the producers were like 'we need to have Ray do his Goodfellas Henry Hill."... they said well let's make him the brother that is in prison so he can use his Goodfellas narration voice and we can have Ray Liotta in the rest of the movie. This was so F'ing stupid.
  • He takes his father's wife as a girlfriend - One thing that would get our ass killed in the mafia is to mess with another man's wife... even and Ex-Wife / widdow... his father was a well respected man - I find it hard to believe that 'old timers' in 1970 would he happy with that very public relationship among the whole family and even in social settings (it's not like he was hiding it).
  • His wife was having trouble having children.. and out of the blue the have Christopher - (was this some odd 'adoption' of him having a kid with his father's widow) - no explanation at all
  • The racial backdrop was a bit 'in your face," and overshadowed the story, and some of the lines were over the top: ex.. the cop saying "let him go - he's white" and the mob guys being overly aggressive and insulting to someone who they were doing business with.
  • The actress who played Tony's mom was amazing - she really had the mannerisms and speech patterns of the original actress - and a real wasted opportunity to not have more of the movie focusing on her and Tony's relationship. I would have loved to see her complaining how 'helpless' she is when Tony's dad was in prison, and trying to 'take Tony down a notch' when he was said to have a promising football career and College opportunity. She could have been putting him down, not believing in him, and really nagging him into believing he was not worth it and forcing him to give up on his dreams - thus the only choice he has is to follow his uncle and father's easy money path in life... thus creating this downward spiral relationship with his mother (guilt, self worth, not being good enough) that forces Tony to see a shrink on the show.
  • Did they really need to shoehorn in Pauly, Big Pussy and Silvio -- these guys seemed like they were grown men and Tony was a fresh faced 14yr old (I felt like this was the Star wars treatment -- look in the background that's ______) Oh and the actor playing Silvio was like someone playing him on a SNL skit.
  • How does Jr. call a hit on another made man that easily?? This was just sloppy writing IMHO to wrap up the show in 2 hrs.

Overall, I felt that there were a lot of misses. It was entertaining, but I don't think I would watch this again or ever recommend it to someone as a good 'Gangster' style movie in the same vein as Goodfellas, Casino, Blow, Godfather, etc.. Maybe if they make another 'Movie' they can continue the story of Tony and his father etc.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt View Post
David Chase wasn't happy about that OR "A Sopranos Story" that got put on the trailer/posters. But he said he was so tired of fighting with Warners/HBO, he just let them do it.
I get being upset with the trailer, but "A Sopranos Story"? It is a Sopranos story. Why does he think the movie got funded, because of the stellar box office grosses of Not Fade Away?
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I couldn't get through the whole thing. The 2nd Ray Liotta just took me out of the movie and then the "young" Silvio? Ugh...Maybe I'll try and go back and revisit it.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

I'm about half way in (watched on my lunch break) I really like it so far but it's definitely not what I was expecting. Ray Liotta 2 didn't bother me much either, I got a kick out of it - you can tell the creators had a lot of fun making this flick.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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I was disappointed in this movie and here are a few reasons:

Oh and the actor playing Silvio was like someone playing him on a SNL skit.
Come on....Steven Van Zandt played Silvio like it was an SNL skit.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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Come on....Steven Van Zandt played Silvio like it was an SNL skit.

He spent a lot of time doing gangster impersonations from movies, so yeah, that was always Silvio. That made it all the more shocking when we actually saw him do something truly gangster in nature (aka killing Adriana).
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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Come on....Steven Van Zandt played Silvio like it was an SNL skit.
Honestly Bill Hader was more restrained than either guy.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

Yeah, this was a pretty mediocre movie. Actually kind of surprised they made it the way they did. I mean I was entertained but this was completely pointless.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

It was okay. Thatís the best I can say as a huge Sopranos fan who listens to the podcast weekly and has seen each episode multiple times. Maybe itíll grow on me if I rewatch.

I saw Not Fade Away in theaters so I knew what to expect theatrically from David Chase, so my expectations were tempered.

Never expected a Tony centric story since I knew that was just recent marketing. I didnít even expect it to be Sopranos character centric, since I assumed Chase wanted to make a movie about Newark riots and this was the only way for him to do so (despite him saying this Sopranos in the 60s idea came to him from Tom Fontana). But those different elements blended together in this way led to a disjointed overall picture.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

Never seen The Sopranos. Is there anything in this movie for me?
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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Never seen The Sopranos. Is there anything in this movie for me?
No.
Now I'm reading Dickie's Grandfather might be a figment of his imagination. In an interview with Alessandro Nivola he says it's up to the viewer.
Ambiguity is good... when it's used correctly, like it was in The Sopranos. Obviously the writer wrote the character KNOWING if he was real or just in Dickie's imagination. Nivola probably didn't even know the answer to this himself, so he gave the universal answer actors give that "It's up to the viewer" when they don't know.

Also, Tony was NOT 17 years older than Christopher in the show. Chris died when he was 38 in the show which would've made Tony 55. I believe Tony was 45 or 46 when the show ended.

I watched the Talking Sopranos podcast where Imperioli &Schirripa interviewed David Chase & all the questions we've been asking is with what they should've asked instead of saying over & over again how the entire cast did a great job & asking the most generic questions possible.

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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

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No.
Now I'm reading Dickie's Grandfather might be a figment of his imagination. In an interview with Alessandro Nivola he says it's up to the viewer.
Ambiguity is good... when it's used correctly, like it was in The Sopranos. Obviously the writer wrote the character KNOWING if he was real or just in Dickie's imagination. Nivola probably didn't even know the answer to this himself, so he gave the universal answer actors give that "It's up to the viewer" when they don't know.
Dickieís uncle, not grandfather.
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I watched the Talking Sopranos podcast where Imperioli &Schirripa interviewed David Chase & all the questions we've been asking is with what they should've asked instead of saying over & over again how the entire cast did a great job & asking the most generic questions possible.
Doesnít matter what was asked. Chase is a TERRIBLE interview. He gives you nothing. I listened to his interview on The Big Picture podcast last week and he couldnít have been less forthcoming. Every question, no matter how innocuous, was like pulling teeth.
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Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
No.
Now I'm reading Dickie's Grandfather might be a figment of his imagination. In an interview with Alessandro Nivola he says it's up to the viewer.
Ambiguity is good... when it's used correctly, like it was in The Sopranos. Obviously the writer wrote the character KNOWING if he was real or just in Dickie's imagination. Nivola probably didn't even know the answer to this himself, so he gave the universal answer actors give that "It's up to the viewer" when they don't know.

Also, Tony was NOT 17 years older than Christopher in the show. Chris died when he was 38 in the show which would've made Tony 55. I believe Tony was 45 or 46 when the show ended.

I watched the Talking Sopranos podcast where Imperioli &Schirripa interviewed David Chase & all the questions we've been asking is with what they should've asked instead of saying over & over again how the entire cast did a great job & asking the most generic questions possible.
Actually, I think that is true (being imaginary) I say this because of the dialogue alone.
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Dickie’s uncle, not grandfather.
Yes, Uncle, my mistake.
I'm such a massive Sopranos fan & really wanted to love this movie, especially after anticipating it for years so I watched for a THIRD time today & enjoyed it more for some reason. I never hated it, but expectations were very high.
It's still hard to overlook errors in the film when The Sopranos was so dedicated to even the most minor details. As stated in my previous posts, Tony is NOT 17 years older than Chrissy. How could Chase mess this up?
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Yes, Uncle, my mistake.
I'm such a massive Sopranos fan & really wanted to love this movie, especially after anticipating it for years so I watched for a THIRD time today & enjoyed it more for some reason. I never hated it, but expectations were very high.
It's still hard to overlook errors in the film when The Sopranos was so dedicated to even the most minor details. As stated in my previous posts, Tony is NOT 17 years older than Chrissy. How could Chase mess this up?
On Christopherís grave it says he was born in 1969. I am not exactly sure when the second half of the movie takes place, but Dirty Harry came out in 1971 and Johnny Soprano served four years in prison after the opening half took place in 1967 so itís pretty safe to say itís 1971 or 1972. That child they call Christopher looks to maybe be 12 months old but would have to be at least two.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

Tony was supposed to be born in 1959... which should've made him 12 when the second part of the film takes place, but he definitely wasn't. They screwed up.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

I enjoyed some of this, but as others have said, it doesn't hang together as a film. The main story was the weakest part to me and the Tony stuff was all interesting. I kind of enjoyed that Carmella was right there when Tony became Tony by fighting that guy when she spends the bulk of the series pretending she was relatively innocent and an unwitting accomplice.

Also, I was half-expecting Ray Liotta II to chide Dick Moltissanti that he goes about "in pity for himself" when he was whining about his tough life and how he does everything right by going to church (including murdering a woman).
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I watched the Talking Sopranos podcast where Imperioli &Schirripa interviewed David Chase & all the questions we've been asking is with what they should've asked instead of saying over & over again how the entire cast did a great job & asking the most generic questions possible.
That was never going to happen. This movie is a paid sponsor of the podcast for this time frame, just like Blue Chew, Bose Headsets, and Better Help. They're not going to ask any questions about continuity or conduct any sort of analysis (not that Schirripa would do so anyway).
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Tony was supposed to be born in 1959... which should've made him 12 when the second part of the film takes place, but he definitely wasn't. They screwed up.
Whenever anyone tries to put firm dates on any kind of continuing story, they always screw it up.

Buffy's birthday on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. "Eight Years Later" in the MCU. Mike's granddaughter on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

As others have said, it was entertaining because I knew the Soprano's universe... if I didn't, there is nothing there to see. That said, if they come out with another movie or two - where Tony rises to power, that could be something. As it stands, by itself, it's a pointless movie.
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Tony was supposed to be born in 1959... which should've made him 12 when the second part of the film takes place, but he definitely wasn't. They screwed up.
The second part of the movie begins in 1972 and ends Christmas of 1973. So Tony is 13 and/or 14.
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Re: The Many Saints of Newark (2021, W: David Chase, D: Alan Taylor) -- The Sopranos prequel

My thoughts echo those of the majority now, so no need repeat.

My only "disappointment", but I was hoping the movie would end with a scene similar to the Godfather II, giving us a chance to see Tony's crew from the TV show and a visual suggestion of the adult Tony/Gandolfini.

The first twenty minutes of the movie were so dark and murky I can't imagine they were projecting it properly. I found a couple ushers to complain to and the projectionist made some adjust that made the picture brighter, but it still didn't right to me. This wasn't playing at my local theatre, I had to go to Niagara Falls to see it.

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