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Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
02-22-18, 07:36 AM
#101
DVD Talk Hero
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At my Drafthouse, there was a short clip of Boseman saying he was watching to see if anyone uses their cellphone. When the movie was completely over, he popped up again and said "I'm still watching!" That was a nice touch and the remaining crowd laughed.
02-22-18, 12:01 PM
#102
Moderator
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
My main complaint about this was the Martin Freeman character. He was totally pointless, and added nothing to the film. He wasn't comic relief, and he wasn't an audience surrogate (by the time he shows up in Wakanda there's nothing left to explain).
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
02-22-18, 12:13 PM
#103
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
My main complaint about this was the Martin Freeman character. He was totally pointless, and added nothing to the film. He wasn't comic relief, and he wasn't an audience surrogate (by the time he shows up in Wakanda there's nothing left to explain).
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
02-22-18, 12:17 PM
#104
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
My main complaint about this was the Martin Freeman character. He was totally pointless, and added nothing to the film. He wasn't comic relief, and he wasn't an audience surrogate (by the time he shows up in Wakanda there's nothing left to explain).
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
On that note, it was funny to see the posters for this movie in the Utah theater where I saw it. They all featured Martin Freeman and ONLY Martin Freeman:
That said, i thought he was fine since both him and Klaue both had previous involvement with Black Panther or Wakanda. Although it did make me think if they didn't remove Coulson from the movie universe it would have been him
02-22-18, 12:20 PM
#105
02-22-18, 01:55 PM
#107
Moderator
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
To be fair, the entire plot of the movie was triggered by the events in Civil War.
02-22-18, 05:32 PM
#108
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
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Well, they were the Tolkien white guys. Someone had to be.
02-22-18, 05:34 PM
#109
DVD Talk Godfather
02-22-18, 08:45 PM
#110
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Liked this, didn't love it.
Coogler def made a film that doesn't completely adhere to the Marvel Formula, although it winds up so bogged down by exposition the running time often feels beleaguered.
Boseman is great; regal, stoic, powerful. Jordan was a highlight, too, although I hope blacks leave the film recognizing his ideals are harmful and not empowering.
I feel like Coogler used Killmonger as a mouthpiece for contemporary black views on how they see themselves within the world and I wish his social commentary had been more challenging than simply subscribing to the current narrative that blacks are victims and it is time for their "oppressors" to be overthrown. Coogler didn't even suggest part of the problem may be coming from within the community. A missed opportunity.
Cinematography was gorgeous, although the action scenes were poorly shot and edited. Hard to tell what was happening a lot of the time, an issue exacerbated by the dark skin of the cast.
Serkis was great. Sad to see him go.
Freeman played the Token Dumb White Guy, which was a not-so-subtle dig at how Coogler likely feels blacks have been historically represented in this type of film.
Why was T'Challa's sister the only one who produced new tech? Wakanda should've had a team of dozens, at least, in that lab space.
Making T'Challa king, then having him lose it, then regain it is a storyline they should've saved. The "lost hero" plot works best in a sequel when internal conflict often feels greatest. It caused this film to lose some focus.
The Afrofuturistic tech and aesthetic was neat.
I think it's great blacks are showing up in record numbers and are excited to see such strong representation on screen, but journalists need to stop acting like black leads or casting is novel. Let's just celebrate the fact Marvel has made a film that speaks to black culture and leave it at that; no need to desperately search for some FIRST TIME EVER headlines.
Most of the humor fell flat for me except for M'Bathu's lines. Dude was hilarious.
Post-credit scenes were extremely pointless.
Coogler def made a film that doesn't completely adhere to the Marvel Formula, although it winds up so bogged down by exposition the running time often feels beleaguered.
Boseman is great; regal, stoic, powerful. Jordan was a highlight, too, although I hope blacks leave the film recognizing his ideals are harmful and not empowering.
I feel like Coogler used Killmonger as a mouthpiece for contemporary black views on how they see themselves within the world and I wish his social commentary had been more challenging than simply subscribing to the current narrative that blacks are victims and it is time for their "oppressors" to be overthrown. Coogler didn't even suggest part of the problem may be coming from within the community. A missed opportunity.
Cinematography was gorgeous, although the action scenes were poorly shot and edited. Hard to tell what was happening a lot of the time, an issue exacerbated by the dark skin of the cast.
Serkis was great. Sad to see him go.
Freeman played the Token Dumb White Guy, which was a not-so-subtle dig at how Coogler likely feels blacks have been historically represented in this type of film.
Why was T'Challa's sister the only one who produced new tech? Wakanda should've had a team of dozens, at least, in that lab space.
Making T'Challa king, then having him lose it, then regain it is a storyline they should've saved. The "lost hero" plot works best in a sequel when internal conflict often feels greatest. It caused this film to lose some focus.
The Afrofuturistic tech and aesthetic was neat.
I think it's great blacks are showing up in record numbers and are excited to see such strong representation on screen, but journalists need to stop acting like black leads or casting is novel. Let's just celebrate the fact Marvel has made a film that speaks to black culture and leave it at that; no need to desperately search for some FIRST TIME EVER headlines.
Most of the humor fell flat for me except for M'Bathu's lines. Dude was hilarious.
Post-credit scenes were extremely pointless.
Was disappointed with the movie.
Was okay but not much more then that.
Too predictable. Not original.
Much of it was telegraphed.
02-23-18, 02:57 PM
#112
DVD Talk God
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...ur-cut-1087475
Black Panther's composer says he scored a 4 hour version of the movie.
Doubt the 4 hour version will ever see the light of day.
Black Panther's composer says he scored a 4 hour version of the movie.
Doubt the 4 hour version will ever see the light of day.
02-23-18, 04:14 PM
#113
DVD Talk Special Edition
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I wish Marvel Studios would release all of the extended cuts of movies they have.
02-23-18, 04:38 PM
#114
DVD Talk Legend
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...ur-cut-1087475
Black Panther's composer says he scored a 4 hour version of the movie.
Doubt the 4 hour version will ever see the light of day.
Black Panther's composer says he scored a 4 hour version of the movie.
Doubt the 4 hour version will ever see the light of day.
02-23-18, 05:57 PM
#115
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Didn't notice the posters though. I think everyone begrudgingly liked it, except for the slave ship line. 
02-24-18, 01:03 PM
#116
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
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I liked the movie but it wasnt great and nowhere near the best Marvel movie. I would rank it middle of the pack. I think to some degree I was expecting more due to the hype.
02-24-18, 01:12 PM
#117
DVD Talk Legend
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Yeah, I think the hype was a detriment, unfortunately. I even read some call it The Godfather of comic book movies.
02-24-18, 03:17 PM
#119
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Did anyone else think the Oakland scenes felt a bit like pandering to African Americans audiences? Those scenes could haven happened anywhere in Africa, as this isnt a film about African Americans at all. Not trying to be controversial, but it seemed like the setting wasn’t necessary except to have some “relatable” scenes for African Americans.
02-24-18, 07:52 PM
#120
Re: Black Panther (Coogler, 2018) The Spoiler Filled Reviews Thread
Interesting movie for me. I liked it, but I think I actually liked the characters more than the movie itself. Liked the sister a lot, didnt like the villain or really the last third of the movie. I didn't buy into the tribes fighting for the new "king" after like 1 day when he was clearly psycho. The city was just not as cool as it should be. I also am not a huge fan of most of the Marvel movies, with GOTG and the last Thor movie being exceptions. Whole genre is becoming tedious.
02-24-18, 11:26 PM
#121
DVD Talk Hero
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Wow, this movie has been killing it! Not the best Marvel movie, but far from the worst.
I certainly liked all the social commentary cooked into the movie more than anything else. I also appreciated how all the women characters had their own agency.
I certainly liked all the social commentary cooked into the movie more than anything else. I also appreciated how all the women characters had their own agency.
02-25-18, 10:06 AM
#122
DVD Talk Limited Edition
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02-25-18, 10:41 AM
#123
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I agree with the parallel but rather than the GOP, I compared the Wakandan guards to the current Secret Service, saying Well, he won according to the rules so I guess we have to protect this guy now.
02-25-18, 11:03 AM
#124
DVD Talk Godfather
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Which was basically Okoye did and explained to Nakia. I imagine the rest of Wakanda, like her, always had allegiance to the country regardless of ruler.
02-25-18, 05:14 PM
#125
DVD Talk Legend
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Really good movie. Enjoyed it a lot. Parts of it were pretty damn great!!
But it's a bit over-hyped. Not as Earth shattering as the buzz is making it out to be. Just a really solid, enjoyable, super fun (and yes, historically important) superhero movie.
Even though Blade came first 20 years ago.
But it's a bit over-hyped. Not as Earth shattering as the buzz is making it out to be. Just a really solid, enjoyable, super fun (and yes, historically important) superhero movie.
Even though Blade came first 20 years ago.