GoldenJCJ

^ from someone who didn’t even like the movie?! That’s an unhealthy obsession.

JeremyM

Over five hours of ranting about a movie he didn't like?!?

Jay G.

Keep in mind that 3 part series is in addition to his original rant, so it's over 5 1/2 hours of ranting.

Additionally, he apparently also hated Black Panther, so not sure how credible a reviewer he is:

Hokeyboy

This is an odd reaction. If someone doesn't like a movie, he's not "credible"? Why? Because everyone else enjoyed it, he must too?

I put much more credibility in a reviewer who I may or may not agree with, or who may or may not agree with the majority, but who at least backs up his opinion with reasons (that I may or may not agree with).

Conformity... it's FANTASTIC!

Jay G.

I meant credible in terms of "able to be believed; convincing," not in terms of whether he's a liar or something. He can truly believe his opinion, but his argument may not be convincing.

And yes, being an outlier on an opinion on one film means that their opinion on another film may be an outlier as well. It doesn't mean nobody will agree with his points, but they're likely not the opinions of the average moviegoer. So take them with a grain of salt.

Josh-da-man

Five. Fucking. Hours?

Jeezus... that's why I hate youtube.

James T. Kirk

Haven't you learned by now? Every single person on the planet must have exactly the same thoughts, feelings and opinions about every single goddamn thing that exists on the fucking planet.

fujishig

I'm curious, what kind of person listens to over five hours of ranting over a movie that's half as long as the rant? I know what kind of person makes the rant, but who actually watches/listens?

TomOpus

I don't read long rants, much less listen to them.

Inhumans99

Those youtube videos are the ultimate vanity project because other than than the dude who created them no one is going to watch. It might look like folks are watching the videos if the view count ticks up but if I simply click to start a youtube video and immediately stop watching it still counts as a view, correct?

The real metrics to pay attention too are how long folks actually spend watching any of the videos...30 seconds, 5 minutes, an hour?

Definitely unhealthy...the dude should take up yoga, or step outside to get some fresh air, or something.

fumanstan

I don't even like watching the 3-5 minute videos. I can't imagine hours of them

gryffinmaster

Wrong thread.

dhmac

Since YouTube changed its revenue sharing model from favoring just views to favoring views + length, the videos from full-time creators there have gotten longer.

But I'll give MauLer credit because he makes some excellent points that illustrates stuff I hated about "The Last Jedi" - plus his videos are a helluva lot more entertaining then that mess of a movie was (IMO of course).

Until we get the inevitable "Mr. Plinkett" review from RedLetterMedia on this franchise trainwreck, MauLer's review will suffice for me.

DVD Josh

I mean, who the hell wants to watch a review as long as the movie itself?

nmr1723

Unless there is some strong entertainment value (think some of the RLM videos), I have zero desire to ever watch a review on a movie I've already seen. By that point I've made up my mind on whether I liked it or not. Maybe there is a huge audience for this, but I personally don't get it.

Just to see what this is about I clicked on the first link. Holy shit. This guy's voice almost sounds like the voice from Radiohead's "Fitter, Happier".

I feel like videos like this are made for people to affirm their opinions to each other. I mean, that's what our society is all about these days. Everyone needs to have their opinions affirmed to feel good about them (not directing at anyone here).

Personally, I take more stock in opinions of people on this board as to whether I'll see a film or not. But that's before I see the film, not after.

Also, if this is 5+ hours of content, this must have taken 3 times that to write, shoot, rehearse, edit, upload, and optimize. That's some serious dedication to making sure everyone knows why you don't like something.

And yes, I liked TLJ. It's far from perfect, but I was entertained enough to want to see IX.

James T. Kirk

The world has become a very sad place.

fujishig

I agree (but only so you feel better about your opinion).

James T. Kirk

dhmac

Given what I've seen online (mainly on Facebook and Twitter) with people acting offended that anyone doesn't like "The Last Jedi" as if anyone who doesn't like the movie is certifiably crazy, I'm happy that MauLer made this effort to painstakenly go over every failure of the movie in all aspects. Why things went from merely disagreeing over a movie to disrespecting someone for not liking a movie, I don't know - it's like that Seinfeld episode on Elaine hating "The English Patient" but for real. The same shit is happening IRT "Black Panther" too.

Now if anyone wants to know why I think "The Last Jedi" is a terrible movie and a low point for the Star Wars franchise, I can just point them towards MauLer's videos and say "Watch this to understand why."

fujishig

And then they'll laugh at you and say they aren't watching an hour and a half of a trilogy of complaining.

Seriously though, I'd say almost the opposite happened here, people were lambasted for liking the movie. It probably just depends on which circles you run in and how sensitive you are to opposing viewpoints.

dhmac

Yeah, but that's DVDTalk where speaking your mind is standard operational procedure.

Out there in the big social media world, it's shocking how people seem to think it's a sin to not like one of these big movies that they like.

gryffinmaster

And even then, over 2/3rds of the folks who voted in the poll here gave it a 3.5 or higher.

People liked it just fine, but fandoms gonna fandom.

fumanstan

Funny how perception works, since I thought there were a lot those who liked the movie here were just as critical towards those who didn't like it, blaming viewers for wanting to same or just being upset because they didn't get the story THEY dreamed of.

fujishig

Oh, it definitely was balanced, I'm just saying it wasn't at all one-sided and it seemed, at least when the thread first started, like most hated it. But that's the nature of discussion, people that hate a movie will usually have much more to say, then the people that like it will answer back and defend it, and the back and forth starts. But I don't think we had much of the "the other side is crazy for liking/disliking it." And nobody liked the casino scene, so there's always that middle ground.

Brack

I just think it’s interesting that many aspects of the film were hated while also liked by many others. The film was certainly surprising, and some people liked those surprises, whilst some people didn’t. But there is a lot of hate because what people excepted based on stuff that appeared to have meaning ending up not being as meaningful because of all this speculation by folks on the internet, and a strange demand for a backstory for certain characters that wouldn’t have really made for more dramatic effect. The were a lot of plot holes and some stuff that was too far out there for a lot of people. I don’t think anyone is truly wrong about their opinions, but some of the opinions weren’t based on what actually happened on screen and had to do with with built up notions or expectations that they simply didn’t like, like Luke quitting and stuff like that, as if people don’t change after 30 years or so, as if they’re in a time capsule or something.