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Old 12-22-17, 03:32 PM
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The only social message that bled through loud and clear was during the casino nonsense. "We may not be able to save the rebellion but we must SAVE THE ANIMALS!!!" and a single tear...
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Originally Posted by mcnabb
ESB is a depressing movie where our heroes get their butts whooped for 2 hours and was nothing like The Original movie everyone expected when they announced a sequel for 1980. Again, it comes back to execution, story and characters, and all of that just wasn't good in my opinion. ESB is great movie so fans just went with the story no matter how dark it got.
There wasn't a lot of set-up going into ESB from ANH. No mysteries, no cliffhangers, so there really wasn't the audience expectations that TLJ had.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
The only social message that bled through loud and clear was during the casino nonsense. "We may not be able to save the rebellion but we must SAVE THE ANIMALS!!!" and a single tear...
Also, the 1% are getting rich off of war, selling to both sides, while the rest are either fighting the war or are subservient to the rich.
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Also, the 1% are getting rich off of war, selling to both sides, while the rest are either fighting the war or are subservient to the rich.
I can't believe they could make that up. That is good storytelling right there.
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https://movieweb.com/last-jedi-how-mark-hamill-really-feels-luke-skywalker/

Interesting.
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To be fair, Comic-Book Guy was complaining about the prequels, which were abject crap.
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Originally Posted by tanman
https://movieweb.com/last-jedi-how-mark-hamill-really-feels-luke-skywalker/

Interesting.
I definitely understand where Hamill is coming from and it must have hurt especially for him since he IS Luke Skywalker and has to portray him in a way he didn't like. His main sticking point though seems to be that Jedi don't give up and Luke would have tried to right the wrong.

Yoda gave up...almost beat Sidious in the senate chamber and then just went into hiding and didn't even want to train Luke initially. Ben basically gave up too...Vader wasn't actively looking for Luke at the beginning of Star Wars so there wasn't much for Ben to protect except maybe stopping Luke from submitting his application to the academy and bringing himself to the Empire's attention.

Also, Luke didn't give up in the end....his talks with Rey and Yoda and then opening himself back up to the force let him see how things had gone since he went into hiding. Then he did try to right his wrong by giving the resistance a chance.
I know some folks hated it but I thought the force projection/delay tactic was a helluva sendoff.
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Originally Posted by tanman
https://movieweb.com/last-jedi-how-mark-hamill-really-feels-luke-skywalker/

Interesting.
I think it’s a dilemma for these blockbuster franchises (because of the secrecy) as essentially Hamill signed on not knowing anything about Luke.

He oftens talks that he didn’t know he was in TFA for 5 minutes until he read the script as you think JJ would have mentioned it before to him?

I think he is just saying he probably trusted Lucas more with Luke because he created the character where everyone of us as fans have our own story and Rian Johnson is no different.
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Ben basically gave up too...Vader wasn't actively looking for Luke at the beginning of Star Wars so there wasn't much for Ben to protect except maybe stopping Luke from submitting his application to the academy and bringing himself to the Empire's attention.
Ben's intentional death was to spur Luke into learning the ways of the force and become what he was always supposed to. how can you say he gave up?
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Originally Posted by OldBoy
Ben's intentional death was to spur Luke into learning the ways of the force and become what he was always supposed to. how can you say he gave up?
I didn't mean give up after he got involved with R2 and Luke. I meant for the 20 some years he was hanging out on Tatooine protecting Luke from an evil father who wasn't even looking for him.
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Originally Posted by mewmartigan
I didn't mean give up after he got involved with R2 and Luke. I meant for the 20 some years he was hanging out on Tatooine protecting Luke from an evil father who wasn't even looking for him.
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Why is Kylo shirtless when Rey sees him?
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Originally Posted by lwhy?
It looked like they were hinting at it until he killed Snoke.
I don’t think it was hinting at it all. And he killed Snoke bc he wants it all. And has it right now. Driver plays Ren as sympathetic, but it’s totally false. He has great range.
Another friend thinks they are going to hook up as well. But I think she has totally unredeeming contempt for him now after Han and Luke. Maybe she’ll try to convert him, but won’t and 9 will end with the most epic saber battle in the franchise. And, Rey will realize he is gone and kinda reluctantly kill him. End scroll.
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Why is Kylo shirtless when Rey sees him?
I see two possibilities: (1) It was just another setup in the movie with no payoff. Rey's uncomfortable reaction was leading us to believe the two would awkwardly end up as a couple. (2) Rey's uncomfortable reaction was further driving home the ridiculous notion of Kylo as a villain - which begs the question as to why Kylo is being set up as the main villain.
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I haven't replied to every little thing but what's with the 'mask' hate? I much prefer my Kylo with the helmet and voice. Long haired emo (and now shirtless!) Ben just doesn't do it for me.
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I haven't replied to every little thing but what's with the 'mask' hate? I much prefer my Kylo with the helmet and voice. Long haired emo (and now shirtless!) Ben just doesn't do it for me.
I joked about the mask even during TFA since it wasn't like he needed it to breathe like Vader did. It just cemented the idea in my head that they were deliberately setting him up as a Vader wannabe and wasn't to be taken all that seriously since he wasn't going to end up as the main antagonist. (Was definitely wrong with that prediction.)
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Why is Kylo shirtless when Rey sees him?
The official explanation was that they needed a visual cue to convey that Rey could actually see him and not just hear him.
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Ha, that official explanation actually makes some sense.

I saw an article from Vanity Fair on the Last Jedi tlaking about the sexual tension between Rey and Kylo.

I'm sure the movie book will have more details. Too bad it won't be released until March.
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Normally I don’t bother with novelizarions, but I may read this one.
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Hopefully it’s more engaging than that of The Force Awakens book - couldn’t finish it, was a bland, rote retelling of the movie with no extra insights or info. Surprising, since the author wrote the novelizaiton for the original movie and Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, which are supposed to be quite good.
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Hopefully it’s more engaging than that of The Force Awakens book - couldn’t finish it, was a bland, rote retelling of the movie with no extra insights or info. Surprising, since the author wrote the novelizaiton for the original movie and Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, which are supposed to be quite good.
The Force Awakens novel really was awful. Splinter wasn’t that great, either, truth be told, but it was one of the few novels out there for years and years, so we were happy to have it. The other movie novelizations have been solid reads, even the prequels.
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As per usual, Film Crit Hulk echoes much of how I feel, but in a far more eloquent manner: https://filmcrithulk.blog/2017/12/15...-of-star-wars/

The Force Belongs To Us: THE LAST JEDI’s Beautiful Refocusing of Star Wars
FILMCRITHULK December 15, 2017

1.

Okay. I wasn’t going to write anything for one simple reason: I know way too many of the Johnson clan at this point for this to be anything but biased blatherings. So there it is. I have no idea what to do with this hope-diamond-sized-grain of salt. Feel free to literally disagree with all I say and proclaim my bias for all to see. It’s deserving. All I can say is I knew literally nothing about THE LAST JEDI going in. And if I didn’t like it, I probably would have been very quiet about it. But then a thing happened that only happens when your brain is caught on fire by a lovely movie… I couldn’t stop talking about it. And suddenly I was talking with people who had some different reactions, but also complex ones. And in those discussions I found that there was nothing less at stake then the entire meaning of STAR WARS all together… So let’s get spoilery and into this shit, shall we?

2.

I’ve made my feelings about The Force Awakens quite clear before. To sum them up, I think J.J. has always been a talented filmmaker with an incredible casting eye, quite adept at imbuing a given moment with energy and emotion, but it’s always just that: a moment. There’s never a larger context. Carol Markus will scream as her father dies then the entire movie will go on as if it never happened. It’s all bits of affectation that excite and delight, and as far as meaning goes, it’s all promise and deep questions and lingering intrigue that pull you in deep, deep, deep… but, you know, never amount to anything. And it’s not that the “answers” are bad, it’s just that they were never set up to be meaningfully answered in the first place. That’s the mystery box. That’s literally the design. He doesn’t think it matters what’s inside as long as he makes you think it’s important. He’s literally said this. And that’s what it’s always been. It’s a grift. A con. A charming way of storytelling that whispers sweet nothings in your ear and is out the window before you wake up. And in making a Episode 7, I was hoping he’d cast it aside, and in some ways he did, and in some ways doubled down on some of his worst story habits of “momentary effect” over building to a coherent point. And the lack of that point is all symbolized in that final moment, Rey standing there to hand a lightsaber to Luke. It’s not a story beat. It’s not really anything. Just someone waiting to hand a baton to someone who can figure out a way to have any of this make a lick of sense.

There’s a reason this movie begins with Luke throwing it off a cliff.

In fact there’s a number of moments in the film that seem like direct refutations to the mystery box questions that were vaguely teased as maybe kinda sorta being deeply important. Why did we think they were? Because destiny! Because Skywalkers! Because Luke I am your father! Because mysteries and answers! And so for two years the internet does what they always do with J.J. and trying to solve the unsolvable questions that were never meant to be answered in the first place. So for two years they’ve been speculating about Rey’s parentage, or Snoke’s origins, or the Knights of Ren, etc. And what does the film do in response? It definitively takes those mystery box questions and throws them off the literal and proverbial cliff. Sometimes it’s done in a funny way, sometimes in an incredulous way, but it’s always in purposeful way. Because in the end, The Last Jedi is actually about something really, really important.

And it’s going to lay the groundwork to get us there…

3.

I was having a conversation after the film and it was largely about the methodology of filmmaking. One person was talking about how they don’t like seeing the strings or feeling the manipulation of a film, which I get, and it’s often a popular criticism of filmmakers like Spielberg. But to me, andI probably expressed this a little too flippantly, I said “But that’s filmmaking.”

Filmmaking is always a construction. And what we feel or don’t feel in terms of that construction is purely the virtue of what we can actually sense as an individual. So for something to be “invisible” and for you to be “in it” is not necessarily a virtue of any filmmakers ability or the lack, but largely what we bring in our own way of seeing. In fact, it gets at the Catch 22 of movie-watching the more you can see of the construction, the less you can feel. Unless, you just learn to be cool with idea and get a sense of fluency. To that, when I say “the best cuts are invisible” I’m not arguing that I don’t actually see them and that that’s the only way I can experience the purity of movie watching (although sometimes it is). But that’s because my own vacant lack of awareness is not my end goal. I’m saying that it will largely be “invisible” for a popular audience (as are most filmmaking techniques), which is the very reason I tend to celebrate traditional functionalists because they’re the best at tapping into what a general audience brings to a movie. After all, there’s a reason Spielberg is also considered the best american filmmaker: he’s great at making you feel the thing he wants you to feel. Which is why a lot of young movie goers go through a phase of disliking him. They don’t want to be manipulated… but that’s what filmmaking always is… so you can see the complexity of all this, no?

Anyway, the point is actually that beyond the artifice, it is actually the pure story level that makes things meaningful and last. For all his kinetic stylization, I still think Johnson’s just a traditional formalist under all of it (I wrote extensively about his work years and years ago and it’s mostly in there). And in this movie I felt so much of the rigorous work. It’s all set-ups and pay-offs. The opening bomber sequence is stacked with clarity, geography, and pure function. Same go for the army of slowly creeping dread sequences that follow. All of which are build on direct storytelling function. Poe’s arc vs. Laura Dern’s characterization is a prime example. The way the film plays with audience expectations with her is never a “ta-da! surprised you, didn’t I!?” It’s what most good turns do in that they make you slap your forehead and go “of course!” Poe’s mutiny was always misguided, him repeating the mistakes of the past. And so the narrative turn played right into his arc beautifully. And holy hell, does she get a triumphant moment as a result… the silent cut.

But perhaps there is no functional moment quite like the ending show-stopper with Luke. And as a quick aside, we finally got the Mark Hamill performance that HE always deserved to get to show US. I have no eloquent words for it. His version of Luke in this film is just incredible. A culmination of humor and love and friendship and so much more that went beyond the pale of mere posturing. But it’s all built off grounded story function. Because it has to earn so much of the real biggest mystery presented in the last film and that’s WHY, why would Luke ever do this and run away? The answer, and then the films answer to that answer, is one of the most brilliant last lessons that the Star Wars universe has yet to give: and that is the acceptance of / and learning from failure. And it’s all built up into a crystalline moment of teaching both from an old friend in Yoda, and then what he has to give forward. My audience was practically hovering three feet above their chairs for “see around kid.” But at the core of Luke’s arc, at the core of everything in this movie, is the most important message of all…

4.

“Fuck Skywalkers.”

My friend said this in a conversation a long time ago. And he didn’t mean it about the characters themselves, nor what they meant to him. He meant it in the sense of the Star Wars series’ focus on lineage and the way some all powerful family who are the most powerful force users who basically controlled the fate of galaxy was… super gross. And he’s right, quite frankly. Because it’s everything I hate about the notion of ‘destiny” and “why I’m destined to be a hero!” bullshit. That psychology only leads you to the kind of place where you are the asshole kid screaming DO YOU KNOW WHO MY FATHER IS!?!?! at night clubs. And as this series has gone on and on, it has fed more and more into that thinking. So it would always this deep fear in me that in the return to the galaxy far far away, the new trilogy would get sucked back into that thematic toxicity.

But in TFA, we actually got a nice self-aware version of that with Kylo where it saw the juvenile villainy in such bloodline thinking (he is absolutely my favorite part of that film, btw). But I still always dreaded it with Rey parentage angle and fan theorying, etc: “Is she secretly Luke’s kid, etc!?!?” Is this just going to be more stories about Skywalkers and the children of all-powerful Jedi and Sith and how they’re the only ones that matter? And so in the moments of The Last Jedi that led up to the confrontation with Snoke, I’ll admit it… I fell for the feint. I thought there was going to be Lord Snoke “I am your father” moment. Why? Well, because that’s the what gets nicely set up in the scene before with Kylo’s feint of “I know who you parents are”… but nope, the lightsaber literally goes sideways and it’s another “OF COURSE!!!” reaction that rings out in my brain, because it all says it so clearly. Especially in their scene after: Kylo just wants to burn it all down with him atop the totem pole. And Rey, she’s just a kid whose parents sold her away for nothing… a meaningless child who therefore needs to share her place among those destined to be great, in order to be great… That kinda gross regal thinking sound familiar?

But Rey won’t do it. She would never. I actually ended up arguing with some folks about the “disappointing” nature of this reveal, but to me it was the only reveal that could actually mean anything in this story. Because she’s not “just” anything. Which is actually everything. For she and Rose and so many others are everything important about this movie. They are people who aren’t the sons of daughters of legends. People who have their own lives and wants, but they are people who have been discarded and stepped on and put under a system of unbearable weight. But from those leanings, there’s nothing that makes them any less capable of the force, any less a jedi, any less powerful…

And anything less than a Skywalker.



5.

You can argue the one “dalliance” of the film is the action on what I’ll be too lazy to google and just call “Monte Carlo planet.” But it’s also the most thematically important because it’s where the entire Skywalker point made above comes into focus. No, not just in the clear criticism of high society and war profiteering, but deeper within the sights of nameless young children who are put under the thumb of the world. And who, within them so innately carry the understanding of the horrors of that world, and thus so tangibly know the simple, inescapable ways for it to be better. And so, within that simple, final speech about what really matters in this big old universe that we share, it’s not about Skywalkers or whose bloodline is most powerful or whose dad can beat up your dad… it’s about that equally simple, final image.

A young child cleaning a stable.

Who dreams of being more.

The force belongs to them, too.

And so it belongs to us.
I think a big divide on the film comes from those who bought deeply into the mystery boxes and dreamed up elaborate scenarios to answer them, invariably shrinking the SW universe by trying to tie together characters from this trilogy with characters from the OT and PT. They wanted big, satisfying answers to the questions of who is Snoke, who is Rey really, etc etc. And then there are those who wanted he SW universe to expand, to be more than an endless story of one family that somehow controls the fate of a galaxy for as long as their bloodline continues. TLJ doesn’t respect TFA’s mystery boxes, and it’s a far more satisfying film than it would have been otherwise as a result.
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So the Friday Box office numbers were just released and TLJ only did 24 million.

To give context, TFA did 49 million and R1 did 22 million on that same day.

Now no one expected TFA numbers again, but a movie with Luke Skywalker should not be struggling to make what R1 (a movie with unknown characters) did at this point, unless a part of the fanbase hates it and isn’t coming back.

Rian Johnson has truly divided the fans!
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Originally Posted by mcnabb
So the Friday Box office numbers were just released and TLJ only did 24 million.

To give context, TFA did 49 million and R1 did 22 million on that same day.

Now no one expected TFA numbers again, but a movie with Luke Skywalker should not be struggling to make what R1 (a movie with unknown characters) did at this point, unless a part of the fanbase hates it and isn’t coming back.

Rian Johnson has truly divided the fans!
Clearly the bots that hacked into Rotten Tomatoes have struck again, this time into the very heart of the box office.


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