redrum

96% with 92 reviews so far

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sta..._the_last_jedi

Orbi-Wan Techno

Down to 93% with 122 reviews. Read some of the few "rotten" ones. Hey, reviewers, don't make it so obvious you were gunning for the movie in your opening paragraphs.

Rob V

I suspect Rian Johnson nailed this one -- hence his "promotion" to do the new trilogy. I'm fired up, crappy rumors or not

candyrocket786

So it looks like....

JackoOnHisBacko

So, I guess you won't be seeing it then, and we won't be getting an actual review from you.

If you do see it, be sure to stop back here and complain about all the things you have already made up your mind to complain about.

candyrocket786

Since I already have my ticket for tomorrow, I still plan to see the film.

At least now I can go in with really lowered expectations because they were pretty damn high for this film

I was expecting see :

Rob V

^^ Isn't it logical to think at least one or two of those things could be addressed (ie fixed) in IX?

The deal about Rey is a non-starter for me... that's gotta be fixed, IMO.

Also, this is the spoiler thread... do we need to "spoiler" things? There is a whole other thread for non-spoiler talk. (Not directed to candyrocket, just a general question).

candyrocket786

I'll stop using them tomorrow, but you got folks that may click this thread by mistake and lose their shit. Then you have others that equate the anticipation of seeing this film like they were about to meet God or have sex for the very first time. Don't forget the folks in the other thread that think we are stupid for even reading spoilers.

joe_b

candyrocket786

You're probably right.

I think what pisses me off the most is how the EU was Order-66'd and then we were led to believe that all the new canonized content was to be interconnected (stuff in Rebels, the Bendu, etc). Seems like they took what the wanted from the EU (I'll never call it "Legends".. that's fucking bullshit) and re-purposed it.

d2cheer

Surprised at the praise be given by reviewers; considering those spoilers have been confirmed on another site.

RichC2

The spoilers going around seem like , critics are critiquing if it's a good movie, which is certainly likely - the consensus seems to state it's an overlong movie but when it's good it's great.

That said, it has the exact same critical weight as The Force Awakens right now, and I guess that's a bad thing.

joe_b

It all comes down to how well it's executed. From what I've read and seen, I think I'll probably end up liking it more than TFA (which I didn't love, but it was at least a fun popcorn movie).

candyrocket786

Hell yes....



No wonder everyone loves this film.

Ash Ketchum

Manohla Dargis' positive review in The New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/m...ef=todayspaper

The comments section is more interesting than the review.

One commenter complained that this line in the review constituted a major spoiler:



When I first read the line I didn't think it was a major spoiler, but now, re-reading it, I see how the use of "diversifying" makes something obvious that didn't jump out at me the first time I read it.

Hazel Motes

seeing this tonight. The critics have been pretty positive towards the film, but just about every user/fan review I've seen has been scathing.

RichC2

I'll just be glad for comments to move past pre-emptive whiney bullshit into actual nerd rage.

Most fan reviews I've read seemed to be overwhelmingly positive, but they do note that it goes against most every expectation and that will piss fanboys off. It also finally gives this new trilogy a reason to exist but also has a side character issue. My only major concern has to do with the comments that it's been Marvel-ized.

joe_b

For better or worse, it does some unexpected things with the mythology. Still, there are apparently elements that feel directly lifted from the earlier movies.

redcon1

I just wonder if those who are unhappy are fan-people who already made up their mind as to how they wanted the story to go and Johnson pulls the rug out from under those ideas.

I know critics and audience can often be at odds, but it seems to be such a large disconnect. I'm sure many critics are SW fans and they seem to love it.

joe_b

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Orbi-Wan Techno

Although I fashion my alter-ego after an old-school Star Wars icon, I happily embrace a new direction and tone for the series. I think back at how tired I have gotten of TV shows that basically run the same set of characters through various plots, or different TV shows that basically hit all the same plot points as other shows (ex., all of the OPIOID plot lines going on right now. Last year, it was domestic terrorism.) Skywalkers are played out, Jedi are played out, Rebellion/Resistance vs Trade Federation/Empire/First Order is played out. Give me something fresh and original.

Rob V

I mostly agree with you... but I don't think Jedi are played out by any means. To me, they're the most fascinating part of the SW universe (along with Sith)... and what we get are usually some ham-handed characters or non-bad-asses (until recently). So now that Kylo is a bad-ass and Rey is the future of Jedi, let's end this thing?? I'm cool moving on from the Skywalkers (but isn't that really just Luke) even though he's my childhood icon and it took 35 years to see him in a movie again.

Defiant1

Well, I saw it tonight at the Fan Event. Got a giant trading card and free popcorn as my treat.

I'm a casual SW fan. I've seen the movies, but know very little about the universe other than that. So with that, I really enjoyed the movie. The spoilers posted in this thread are true. If they piss off the hardcore fans, well okay. I'm not one of them, so I didn't mind what transpired. I thought it was kind of neat, although something that Leia does stretched credibility. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see it.

Since it's a pretty long movie at 2.5 hours, all of the characters get their moment to shine. Mark Hamill in particular is excellent as Luke. Age has brought him a gravitas that he never had in the OT, and he nails it. All of the cast from TFA do a great job too, but I'm afraid Captain Phasma is given short shrift again though. The two major new characters played by Kelly Marie Tran and Laura Dern are fantastic. Laura's character in particular does something that is truly jaw-dropping that got a great reaction from the crowd.

Action scenes and set pieces are awesome. My favourite was the lightsaber fight between multiple characters. Way cool. The use of a white salt desert that "bled" red in the final set piece was an inspired use of colour.

One question though, and I'll put it in spoilers since the movie isn't officially out until tomorrow:

dex14

I saw it. The spoilers are true...

I don't know how I feel.

The Luke moment plays better than it reads. But you could tell something was up visually. You'll know when you see it.

The stuff with Rey is what pisses me off the most. All the buildup... and nothing.

Everything with Finn was boring.

stingermck

Exceeded all my hyped expectations.

Saw it with a sold out audience. Was just blown away. I got the big Luke moments I wanted.

So much happened in the film, and still trying to process it all.

You really think its going one way and you are constantly thrown in another direction.

Loved it. The theater loved it. Just amazing.