Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
#101
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
10 movies and theres still only 3 that are worth a damn to me. I really don't care what happens with this franchise to be honest. Making a brand new trilogy outside of the 9 episodes has a higher chance of success than anything that has come after Return of the Jedi. There's not nearly as much that can be fucked up if there's not a vested interest in existing characters. I didn't like Last Jedi almost entirely because of the films that came before it. It was actually a fairly good movie taken at face value. It's just it besmirched almost all the characters that already existed in other films. I dunno, I'm not too worried whether or not this thing happens.
#102
DVD Talk Legend
#103
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
What IS interesting is when you compare the development/release of SOLO and TLJ. Both films were produced in and around the same time period, but TLJ employs radical changes in tone/structure while Solo's is similar to all all other SW properties. Solo's production was known to be micromanaged by Lucasfilm, after the reshoot expense of Rogue One, hence the behind the scene drama. TLJ had no such production problems we are aware of, almost as if RJ was allowed to do whatever he wanted without interference. How are you "franchise building" with two completely different products coming out within months of each other? This is Lucasfilm's fault.
#104
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
Solo was bland shit.
#105
Moderator
#106
DVD Talk God
#107
DVD Talk Legend
#108
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I've read in a few spots that it lost between $50m and $60m for the Mouse. That is negligible at best for them, so they'll probably keep an eye on the waters.
That said, I don't know how the accountants came to that number. $392m worldwide gross on a $275m budget + P&A? There had to be a lot of post-theatrical run deals happening there.
That said, I don't know how the accountants came to that number. $392m worldwide gross on a $275m budget + P&A? There had to be a lot of post-theatrical run deals happening there.
#109
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I've read in a few spots that it lost between $50m and $60m for the Mouse. That is negligible at best for them, so they'll probably keep an eye on the waters.
That said, I don't know how the accountants came to that number. $392m worldwide gross on a $275m budget + P&A? There had to be a lot of post-theatrical run deals happening there.
That said, I don't know how the accountants came to that number. $392m worldwide gross on a $275m budget + P&A? There had to be a lot of post-theatrical run deals happening there.
And that movie is dull trash anyway. No sequels please.
#110
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I wonder if that 275M is total for the original shoot plus the Ron Howard stuff. It sure doesn't look like a movie with a budget that high, so I'd imagine it does. With a budget like that, I don't see how it wouldn't lose money.
And that movie is dull trash anyway. No sequels please.
And that movie is dull trash anyway. No sequels please.
But then again, Wreck It Ralph 2 doesn't look like a $175m movie either.
#111
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I enjoyed Solo, but I would be fine if it never had a sequel. As far as a new trilogy, I find it hard to believe that someone or something didn't pop up from the Skywalker saga. Chewie's great Uncle, Lando's Grandson or something of that nature is bound to make an appearance.
#112
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
It isn’t confirmed but I highly doubt it’ll get a sequel. Maybe if we’re lucky they’ll do something on the Disney+ service but who knows.
I think a lot could be done with a sequel. The first film is an origin so to speak. You could have the next film introduce characters that he has history with that’s not seen in the films (Jabba, Boba Fett, maybe even Greedo and other bounty hunters).
I think a lot could be done with a sequel. The first film is an origin so to speak. You could have the next film introduce characters that he has history with that’s not seen in the films (Jabba, Boba Fett, maybe even Greedo and other bounty hunters).
#113
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I enjoyed Solo, but I would be fine if it never had a sequel. As far as a new trilogy, I find it hard to believe that someone or something didn't pop up from the Skywalker saga. Chewie's great Uncle, Lando's Grandson or something of that nature is bound to make an appearance.
#115
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
It isn’t confirmed but I highly doubt it’ll get a sequel.
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I think a lot could be done with a sequel. The first film is an origin so to speak. You could have the next film introduce characters that he has history with that’s not seen in the films (Jabba, Boba Fett, maybe even Greedo and other bounty hunters).
And then a Scoundrels film featuring Han, Lando, Chewie, Boba Fett, and maybe a new character or two to finish out a trilogy.
Last edited by Josh-da-man; 02-18-19 at 11:44 AM.
#117
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Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I kind of like that.
#118
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I have often wondered if Han — and Lando — knew Boba Fett before Empire Strikes Back.
I sort of like the idea that they might have worked together on a job at some point in the past, and then, in Cloud City, Boba Fett is standing there with Vader in the dining hall. It would add a lot of nuance to that scene.
I sort of like the idea that they might have worked together on a job at some point in the past, and then, in Cloud City, Boba Fett is standing there with Vader in the dining hall. It would add a lot of nuance to that scene.
#119
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
I have often wondered if Han — and Lando — knew Boba Fett before Empire Strikes Back.
I sort of like the idea that they might have worked together on a job at some point in the past, and then, in Cloud City, Boba Fett is standing there with Vader in the dining hall. It would add a lot of nuance to that scene.
I sort of like the idea that they might have worked together on a job at some point in the past, and then, in Cloud City, Boba Fett is standing there with Vader in the dining hall. It would add a lot of nuance to that scene.
I think the approach of every minor character needing a film isn’t necessary. Like Boba Fett on his own doesn’t need a film in my view, but I think you could piece characters like him together with others into what would make interesting film ideas. Han, Lando, and Chewie in a film with the likes of Jabba and Boba Fett. Maybe throw in some of the other bounty hunters like IG-88 or Bossk. You could make a fun seedy underbelly/scoundrels of the Star Wars galaxy film.
#120
DVD Talk God
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The butt hurt that some of these toxic Star Wars "fans" still have towards Rian Johnson 2 years later is so
I follow a movie pundit on YouTube who is a big Star Wars fan and he called out all those idiots who are still angry at Rian Johnson on his Twitter feed, and he got a lot of nasty responses to his post by those "fans" before he deleted his tweet.
I follow a movie pundit on YouTube who is a big Star Wars fan and he called out all those idiots who are still angry at Rian Johnson on his Twitter feed, and he got a lot of nasty responses to his post by those "fans" before he deleted his tweet.
#122
DVD Talk Legend
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Disliking shitty things or daring to be be critical of something that you’ve liked for years when it takes a turn for the worse automatically equates to a toxic fan in the minds of some. I’m obviously the authority on this being the resident DC hater.
#123
DVD Talk God
Re: Rian Johnson to Create New "Star Wars" Universe Trilogy
That's fine and dandy if you didn't like his movie. But, to constantly troll and abuse him on social media and then send him death threats and racial insults to his actors? That's fucking pathetic. Even 2 years later these people still exist.
It's like these "fans" took it personally when they didn't get the movie they wanted.
Those are the toxic fans, not the ones who were disappointed with or didn't like the movie.
It's like these "fans" took it personally when they didn't get the movie they wanted.
Those are the toxic fans, not the ones who were disappointed with or didn't like the movie.
#124
DVD Talk Legend
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Still, Disney/Lucasfilm may be considering the production issues the film faced when looking at how it performed and considering a sequel that (hopefully) wouldn't have a tumultuous a shoot. However, even factoring out the additional production costs, Solo didn't do great. It had a really low overall domestic gross, and did even worse worldwide. Rouge One grossed about $1 billion worldwide, Solo did about a third of that.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/f...rs#tab=summary
Also, the critical and audience reaction seems to collectively be, "meh." It's not generating much buzz or excitement that could help drive demand for a sequel. Austin Powers got a sequel based largely on how it did on home video, but while you may personally like Solo, it's not really generating any traction. There's also the perception that it was a bomb, so people aren't going to be primed to see the sequel, especially if they never got around to watching the first one.
#125
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I don't condone any of these idiots who go at anyone personally on Twitter, but you make it sound like its a large segment of the SW fanbase? There is always a tiny minority of idiots/trolls (or whatever you want to call them) on Social Media and it's best to either block or ignore. It's no different than sports fans at a game (especially football because of tailgaiting), in that there is always a few drunks who act like complete idiots, but the other 60,000 people aren't like that.