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Old 07-05-19, 12:59 PM
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Before Hollywood existed, this guy was a celebrity in his own way. We've all heard of him when we in school. And now they're going after him for something that happened a very, very, very long time ago.

I think this move by the ALA is ridiculous. No matter what bad things he did in his personal life, it still doesn't negate the good things that he did in the field of library science.
Sad part is they’re renaming it The Spacey.
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Disney Removes ‘Toy Story 2’ Scene That Recalled Hollywood Casting Couch Abuse

Disney recently marked the opening of “Toy Story 4” by re-releasing the entire animated franchise on 4K, Blu-ray, DVD, and Digital HD, but not every entry was the same as when the studio first released it. Deadline reports Disney quietly removed a scene from “Toy Story 2” for the new release. The scene in question occurred during the end credit bloopers and featured the character Stinky Pete (the villainous toy voiced by Kelsey Grammar) inside a toy box with two Barbie dolls. Stinky Pete grabs one of their hands and says he can help get them roles in the next “Toy Story” movie, only to discover he is being filmed. The character becomes flustered and escorts the Barbie dolls out of the box.

In the wake of the #MeToo and Time’s Up anti-harassment movement, it was impossible not to view the scene as problematic. Stinky Pete’s lecherous behavior brings to mind Hollywood’s casting couch abuse problem, in which young actors are forced to trade sexual favors for roles. IndieWire has reached out to Disney for further comment.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/di...te-1202155516/
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Originally Posted by grundle
Before Hollywood existed, this guy was a celebrity in his own way. We've all heard of him when we in school. And now they're going after him for something that happened a very, very, very long time ago.

I think this move by the ALA is ridiculous. No matter what bad things he did in his personal life, it still doesn't negate the good things that he did in the field of library science.
Good for the ALA. They're not saying that the decimal system named in his honor will be removed, but since the library is a neutral institution - they're moving on and replacing it with something that reflects that as opposed to receiving an award acknowledging what a piece of crap dewey was. That's like an actor/actress receiving the "Harvey Weinstein" award for best whatever.

I know folks that went to the ALA in Washington D.C. last week. I'm gonna ask them their thoughts on that.
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Originally Posted by TheMovieman
Disney Removes ‘Toy Story 2’ Scene That Recalled Hollywood Casting Couch Abuse



https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/di...te-1202155516/
Maybe it was insensitive but dam do they really have to remove it?
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They remove it to hide their culpability. Cowards.
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How long before the current copies of Toy Story 2 go on eBay?
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Originally Posted by TheMovieman
Disney Removes ‘Toy Story 2’ Scene That Recalled Hollywood Casting Couch Abuse



https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/di...te-1202155516/
Things are looking bad for PePe Le Pew
Old 07-06-19, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian
Things are looking bad for PePe Le Pew
it probably doesn’t help that Max Landis was writing the Pepe movie (not a joke).
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Originally Posted by dex14
Here’s a real shocker...
Eight Women Accuse Hollywood Filmmaker Max Landis of Emotional and Sexual Abuse: ‘We’re Not People to Him’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/max-la...-people-to-him
Max Landis sounds like a jerk who is very successful with women. Just look at how the majority of those women accusing him are ex-girlfriends. If he's truly this awful, why are they dating him at all? The question "Why do so many women love jerks?" has been around seemingly forever without any clear answer. But as long as being jerk instead of a nice guy leads to better success with women, there will always be jerks like him.
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Originally Posted by dex14
Here’s a real shocker...

Eight Women Accuse Hollywood Filmmaker Max Landis of Emotional and Sexual Abuse: ‘We’re Not People to Him’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/max-la...-people-to-him

Originally Posted by ViewAskewbian
Things are looking bad for PePe Le Pew
Originally Posted by majorjoe23
it probably doesn’t help that Max Landis was writing the Pepe movie (not a joke).

From the article dex14 linked to:
“He jokingly called me a ‘paint cat’ in reference to the ill-fated feline who tries desperately to escape the clutches of Pepe Le Pew,” Julie wrote in her statement.
A bit 'on the nose,' innit? Landis sounds like a real piece of shit.
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Originally Posted by TheMovieman
Disney Removes ‘Toy Story 2’ Scene That Recalled Hollywood Casting Couch Abuse

https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/di...te-1202155516/
Disney / Pixar doing this reminds me of when they reduced the size of the breasts in their short "Knick Knack"


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Yeah, that short was revived and played in front of Finding Nemo, they made smaller boobs to make it kid friendly, the old short ran at short film festivals and stuff that typically had a more mature audience.

This Toy Story 2 thing is a joke that was deemed acceptable for a G rated movie in 1999, that now they’re having second thoughts about. Of course the real underlying reason is that the director, John Lasseter, was accused of all kinds of handsy behavior and had to leave the company. They’re trying to get the stink off. It’s a sad state of affairs. I’m always on the side of don’t alter the film.

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If men weren't wired the way they are - easily stimulated - there probably wouldn't even be a Hollywood.
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Originally Posted by greensmoke
If men weren't wired the way they are - easily stimulated - there probably wouldn't even be a Hollywood.
Or at least one that wasn’t as male-centric. Hey, that actually sounds like a great idea.
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Originally Posted by grundle
Before Hollywood existed, this guy was a celebrity in his own way. We've all heard of him when we in school. And now they're going after him for something that happened a very, very, very long time ago.

I think this move by the ALA is ridiculous. No matter what bad things he did in his personal life, it still doesn't negate the good things that he did in the field of library science.
Nobody is taking away his credits, he will forever be in history books. They are just not giving awards in the name of an asshole.
But personally I'm all for erasing these fuckers from common knowledge. If the present can't be right, at least let history have the right moral compass
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But personally I'm all for erasing these fuckers from common knowledge. If the present can't be right, at least let history have the right moral compass
Um, let's not do that. What you're describing is straight out of 1984.

We should always strive for the most accurate records possible. We can always update them with relevant information like: John Ford invented the assembly line (and was a massive antisemite).

Furture generations will have more wisdom than us. Let's not assume they're so stupid we need to treat them like toddlers.
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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle
Um, let's not do that. What you're describing is straight out of 1984.

We should always strive for the most accurate records possible. We can always update them with relevant information like: John Ford invented the assembly line (and was a massive antisemite).

Furture generations will have more wisdom than us. Let's not assume they're so stupid we need to treat them like toddlers.
I think you meant HENRY Ford...

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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle
Um, let's not do that. What you're describing is straight out of 1984.

We should always strive for the most accurate records possible. We can always update them with relevant information like: John Ford invented the assembly line (and was a massive antisemite).

Furture generations will have more wisdom than us. Let's not assume they're so stupid we need to treat them like toddlers.
I was too emotional on my response Agree with what you say
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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle
Um, let's not do that. What you're describing is straight out of 1984.

We should always strive for the most accurate records possible. We can always update them with relevant information like: John Ford invented the assembly line (and was a massive antisemite).

Furture generations will have more wisdom than us. Let's not assume they're so stupid we need to treat them like toddlers.
Originally Posted by B5Erik
I think you meant HENRY Ford...

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I was right. (And wrong.)
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Andy Signor (Screen Junkies) was one of the first people accused in the #metoo movement, and now it looks like he was innocent. His accuser has some explaining to do.

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He looks like he's lost some weight, but it still makes him look douchey for cheating on his wife.
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
He looks like he's lost some weight, but it still makes him look douchey for cheating on his wife.
Doesn't mean he deserved what happened to him. But it doesn't matter, the person who made the accusations probably won't have to answer for them.
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Here's a long piece on Al Franken from the New Yorker.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-of-al-franken


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