Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion
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Kevin Spacey finally comes out of hiding and responds to all those allegations
But it looks like it's in character as Frank Underwood.
and he's facing some new charges:
https://deadline.com/2018/12/kevin-s...ch-1202525629/
But it looks like it's in character as Frank Underwood.
and he's facing some new charges:
https://deadline.com/2018/12/kevin-s...ch-1202525629/
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Most of these women are full of shit. So many call rape when it never rest happened.
If shit is really going down in SMILF set she needs to be fired and the show canceled because if it were a man the show would gone already
If shit is really going down in SMILF set she needs to be fired and the show canceled because if it were a man the show would gone already
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Kevin Spacey finally comes out of hiding and responds to all those allegations
https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI
But it looks like it's in character as Frank Underwood.
https://youtu.be/JZveA-NAIDI
But it looks like it's in character as Frank Underwood.
A) very clever video
B) very creepy video
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2. If most of these women are full of shit, why would you believe the SMILF accuser?
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I posted this in the MoviePass thread, but it’s appropriate for here too:
MoviePass got rid of a consultant accused of inappropriate behavior toward women after executives threatened to quit. His quiet return has shaken the company.
http://www.businessinsider.com/movie...-women-2018-12
In short, the consultant is a friend of the CEO. After quasi-stalking and continuing to making unwanted advances toward employees after being told to stop, the CEO said the consultant was being let go. However he is still at company functions and is taking part in major operational decisions.
The consultant is an ex-husband of Diana Ross and father of Tracee Ellis Ross (actress on the TV show Blackish).
MoviePass got rid of a consultant accused of inappropriate behavior toward women after executives threatened to quit. His quiet return has shaken the company.
http://www.businessinsider.com/movie...-women-2018-12
In short, the consultant is a friend of the CEO. After quasi-stalking and continuing to making unwanted advances toward employees after being told to stop, the CEO said the consultant was being let go. However he is still at company functions and is taking part in major operational decisions.
The consultant is an ex-husband of Diana Ross and father of Tracee Ellis Ross (actress on the TV show Blackish).
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Spacey's video is fucking weird. It comes across like he thinks since he's playing the Frank character that he can basically just brush off the allegations and hopes people who were fans of his and of House of Cards will find it clever and forgive him or something.
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I posted this in the MoviePass thread, but it’s appropriate for here too:
MoviePass got rid of a consultant accused of inappropriate behavior toward women after executives threatened to quit. His quiet return has shaken the company.
http://www.businessinsider.com/movie...-women-2018-12
In short, the consultant is a friend of the CEO. After quasi-stalking and continuing to making unwanted advances toward employees after being told to stop, the CEO said the consultant was being let go. However he is still at company functions and is taking part in major operational decisions.
The consultant is an ex-husband of Diana Ross and father of Tracee Ellis Ross (actress on the TV show Blackish).
MoviePass got rid of a consultant accused of inappropriate behavior toward women after executives threatened to quit. His quiet return has shaken the company.
http://www.businessinsider.com/movie...-women-2018-12
In short, the consultant is a friend of the CEO. After quasi-stalking and continuing to making unwanted advances toward employees after being told to stop, the CEO said the consultant was being let go. However he is still at company functions and is taking part in major operational decisions.
The consultant is an ex-husband of Diana Ross and father of Tracee Ellis Ross (actress on the TV show Blackish).
oooh, snap! Tracee's dad is stalkin' chicks at work?
BTW, link broken?
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Since he's basically out of work now, and the show is no longer in production, he's probably thinking there could be a one-off movie that could wrap up his character in a more creatively satisfying way.
Ain't gonna happen unless the audience for the show wants it to happen. This seemed to me like a bid to get that juiced.
At least I didn't see it as any attempt at defending himself, in character, against real life accusations. I saw that element more as an intentional buzz generator, to get people talking and to get his profile back up, rather than something designed to sway opinion. One of the worst things for a formerly higher profile actor is to get swallowed up in a black hole of irrelevancy, or blackballed over allegations rather than formal charges/convictions.
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Later, as the two stood near the piano player in the bar, Spacey reached over and began to rub the busboy's thigh, the complaint states. Spacey then unzipped the accuser's pants and rubbed his penis, both in and out of his pants, for about three minutes, he told police.
Source
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The busboy did not know what to do and did not want to get in trouble at work for drinking, particularly because he was under the legal drinking age, the complaint states. He said that he tried to shift away with his body and move Spacey's hands away with his hands, but Spacey kept reaching down his pants, the complaint states.
During this time, he was texting with his girlfriend, who did not believe what he was telling her, the complaint states. So he sent her video on Snapchat of Spacey groping him, the complaint states.
In his interview with police, investigators showed the busboy that video and confirmed his and Spacey's clothing that night.
During this time, he was texting with his girlfriend, who did not believe what he was telling her, the complaint states. So he sent her video on Snapchat of Spacey groping him, the complaint states.
In his interview with police, investigators showed the busboy that video and confirmed his and Spacey's clothing that night.
Spacey's behavior sounds like a typical middle aged horny bastard hitting on a someone at a bar who is giving him mixed signals, and then feigning offense afterward.
The kid was 18, misrepresented himself as 23 to get Spacey to serve him alcohol (while he was working), and kept engaging with the actor despite the latter making his intentions clear early on.
I'm sure Spacey is a real repugnant a-hole in most of his other interactions with people, but in this case I'm sorry. I think the whole thing is BS.
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By generally agreed account of all involved, the House of Cards cast and crew had to have a special “everyone but Kevin” meeting where they discussed the best and safest ways to avoid his advances and assaults. Just mind boggling. If one account is a lie, I don’t really care. Where there is smoke there is fire.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...-women-2018-12
Or, here’s the article (spoilered for length and without the extra text scrubbed out of it):
Spoiler:
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By generally agreed account of all involved, the House of Cards cast and crew had to have a special “everyone but Kevin” meeting where they discussed the best and safest ways to avoid his advances and assaults. Just mind boggling. If one account is a lie, I don’t really care. Where there is smoke there is fire.
But I get that others don't have that hurdle to get over. Bully for them, I guess.
I just just think that if this 18 year old adult, who was misrepresenting his age (as an even older adult!) to the "despicable pedophile predator...Kevin Spacey", can be on the phone actively texting his GF while Spacey is getting all grabby-feely, as well as snapping a pic of the action as it's happening, that creates a whole lot of doubt in my mind about this guys true mindset at the time.
I know if it were me, and someone I found distasteful was trying to corner me and getting all grabby while I was trying to do my job, I probably try to avoid him like the plague. I sure as hell wouldn't passively let it happen and do a play by play for someone else- unless I found it ridiculous, pathetic, or amusing and wanted to see this leacher make a fool of himself.
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Yeah, I guess I'm just not that comfortable with using false testimony to convict someone who is simply an all around scumbag in general.
But I get that others don't have that hurdle to get over. Bully for them, I guess.
And yet, I don't see where I gave him a carte blanche pass or defended his entire career as a serial predator.
I just just think that if this 18 year old adult, who was misrepresenting his age (as an even older adult!) to the "despicable pedophile predator...Kevin Spacey", can be on the phone actively texting his GF while Spacey is getting all grabby-feely, as well as snapping a pic of the action as it's happening, that creates a whole lot of doubt in my mind about this guys true mindset at the time.
I know if it were me, and someone I found distasteful was trying to corner me and getting all grabby while I was trying to do my job, I probably try to avoid him like the plague. I sure as hell wouldn't passively let it happen and do a play by play for someone else- unless I found it ridiculous, pathetic, or amusing and wanted to see this leacher make a fool of himself.
But I get that others don't have that hurdle to get over. Bully for them, I guess.
And yet, I don't see where I gave him a carte blanche pass or defended his entire career as a serial predator.
I just just think that if this 18 year old adult, who was misrepresenting his age (as an even older adult!) to the "despicable pedophile predator...Kevin Spacey", can be on the phone actively texting his GF while Spacey is getting all grabby-feely, as well as snapping a pic of the action as it's happening, that creates a whole lot of doubt in my mind about this guys true mindset at the time.
I know if it were me, and someone I found distasteful was trying to corner me and getting all grabby while I was trying to do my job, I probably try to avoid him like the plague. I sure as hell wouldn't passively let it happen and do a play by play for someone else- unless I found it ridiculous, pathetic, or amusing and wanted to see this leacher make a fool of himself.
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^
"He's begging for his job."
"This video was a rationalization to try to convince his fanbase to convince Netflix to bring it back.
He thinks he's gonna make a comeback...it's act III of a desperate man. He got dethroned overnight, It's over."
Yup. Pretty much exactly the interpretation I originally offered.
"He's begging for his job."
"This video was a rationalization to try to convince his fanbase to convince Netflix to bring it back.
He thinks he's gonna make a comeback...it's act III of a desperate man. He got dethroned overnight, It's over."
Yup. Pretty much exactly the interpretation I originally offered.
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Kevin Spacey has ZERO future in Hollywood...or any other acting venue.
I wouldn't be surprised to someday read he was arrested in Thailand or some other backwater for fncking around with kids...like this asshole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter
I wouldn't be surprised to someday read he was arrested in Thailand or some other backwater for fncking around with kids...like this asshole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Glitter
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With respect to any alleged victims of Mr. Spacey, that youtube video was more compelling than the entire 6th season of House of Cards.
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Spacey should hit up Stephen Collins and Jeffrey Jones for support. They could give him real world advice on how to transition from successful pedo actor to having their career end in an instant.
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Kinda glad I’ve never been a big Spacey fan as the guy sounds like and comes across like a total creeper.
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