Giantrobo

Who compared Jokes to rape? While i wait for that...I'll tune my violin for a solo. .

Giantrobo

Pffft, who said everyone? Take you own advice and speak for YOURself...

Giantrobo

Wanna cookie?

EddieMoney

Male entitlement? All a woman has to do nowadays is say a man "assaulted" her or "harrassed" her (even if it's a lie), and the guy's life can pretty much be ruined. What happens if a man makes the same claims? "Man up." 'Hs must have wanted it."

Who exactly is entitled?

Giantrobo

Man, just roll with the changes. It's not that hard to NOT force or badger women into fucked up situations just to get your dick sucked. Not sure why so many men are missing this easy point....

Giantrobo

For every "he assaulted me!" lie there are thousands of women who won't get justice for what men have done to them because they aren't celebs in the MeToo spotlight.

I mean really? This shit again? Forcing a women into sexual situations isn't male entitlement? Harassing a woman even after she says no as if she OWES HIM isn't male entitlement? Mind you, MEN can be forced too but since dvdtalk is a sausage fest we'll talk in terms of women as victims.

EddieMoney

Yes, this shit again. But if you prefer to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la la la," that's fine too.

andicus

Yeah, me too, or should I say "I am, as well?" Not to confuse things in the context of this thread.

I was really looking forward to the next season. Season 2 was to debut in the US in October. I've already seen that, so thought maybe it was season 3. Googling, I found out about the charges.

And, yeah, I wonder about the evidence, too. Considering they've actually charged him, I would think it has to be more substantial than one person's word. Or perhaps the claim is enough if the circumstances would've allowed the alleged crime. I.e. they were living in the same house, at the same time.

GoldenJCJ

I agree with you for the most part but I don’t think it is quite as easy a point as you’re making it sound. Of course there are the black and white instances of sexual assault and sexual harassment from men like Harvey Weinstein and the obviously wrong situations when men in a true position of power use that power to coerce women into doing things they may not want to. But then there are the not-so-black-and-white instances like Ansari whose position of power was that he was simply more successful than she was.

That’s where I ask the question: where is the line? What constitutes a position of power? Beyond the obvious Kevin Spaceys and Matt Lauers of the world, does the metoo movement take issue with any man who makes the first move? Any man in a relationship who tries to initiate sex? Any man who makes more money than a woman he asks out on a date?

I’m all for stopping the bullshit sexual harassment/assault/abuse that happens in this country but how far does the metoo movement want to go with this?

EddieMoney

It's only unwanted advances if the guy is ugly.

Mabuse

This is a great post.

dex14

You said “we all” which implies everyone.

Draven

Yeah that’s only something guys who get rejected say.

Crocker Jarmen

You did. And I did. Continue enjoying yourself.

EddieMoney

That's really stupid. I work with a lot of women, and this is straight from their mouths.

PatD

Both genders are appallingly superficial and shallow. And *both* genders feed the beast of toxic masculinity in their own ways.

parker63

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Gunde

I ask out plenty of women. Some say yes, some say no, some wants to bone, some don't, no one gets mad. Just don't be disgusting. It's really not that hard.

Groucho

Only in DVDTalk is somebody who stars in a top sitcom for all seven seasons NOT a celebrity.

William Fuld

And that Rudolph Valentino was a real cad!

PatD

Exactly. Do ugly guys think that acting like pigs gets them anywhere with women? Good looking guys on the other hand...

melasnus

A real travesty...the poor guy was called onto the carpet because his consenting sex partner thought he was a bad lay.
IMO, that's as mean-spirited as it gets (that doesn't involve a crime).
That is what I have been wondering about too....

Ash Ketchum

Parks and Recreation is a sitcom? I thought that was his job! And that his next job was working at a food stand called Bob's Burgers. You're not gonna tell me that's a sitcom, too, are ya?

(Hey, it's not my fault that an actor's IMDB filmography these days reads like a working stiff's resume. )

actionjackson29

Apply this to Ansari and see how it's more complicated than that. She said yes, when she probably should've said no. She had consensual sex with him and seemed to believe he should've read her mind and stopped before she decided to stop it. I feel like the situation while not what either of them wanted ended maybe the best way possible that night. She didn't want to have sex, she stopped it and he didn't force her or assault her. A question I would raise is what do you do in their situation? As her or him.

Giantrobo

Fingers in my ears? How so? Im engaging you. Im listening. You are wrong....but im listening