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Old 01-12-18, 02:42 PM
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re: Sexual Harassment/Assault & Abuse in Hollywood -- Discussion

Isn't Seagal a total nut job living in another country now, similar to Randy Quaid?
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Didn't Seagal get sued a decade back by a woman who wasn't informed ahead of time that part of the job of being his secretary included having sex with him?

ETA: Found it. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/04/1...ued/index.html
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Originally Posted by Noonan
Isn't Seagal a total nut job living in another country now, similar to Randy Quaid?
I think Putin made him an honorary Russian citizen.

Old 01-12-18, 03:57 PM
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How the fuck would she put up with that if it was the play he recently directed her in? I am not sure I can buy that one.
Same. It's hard to buy most of these blind items though, especially after the New York Post debunked the person who ran the site a couple of years ago and the person who ran it.

Isn't Seagal a total nut job living in another country now, similar to Randy Quaid?
Yes. Putin gave him honorary citizenship and he now lives in Russia. This is as unsurprising as possible though. I remember Jamie Presley putting him on full blast going back to 2000 over it. The real surprising thing is that Arnie, Sly, Van Damme and Willis haven't been linked to any of that yet.
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Originally Posted by robin2099
The real surprising thing is that Arnie, Sly, Van Damme and Willis haven't been linked to any of that yet.
I would be shocked to hear Van Damme harassing women in Hollywood. I heard nothing but good stories from women about van damme.

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LAPD Opens Sexual Assault Investigation Into Steven Seagal
Multiple women, including Jenny McCarthy, have come forward and alleged they were sexually harassed or assaulted by the 'Under Siege' actor.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...seagal-1074150
Hilarious considering he was a cop at one point? Or was that acting as well.

So that is why he took his ass to Russia. That Segal sure is sneaky.
Old 01-12-18, 06:27 PM
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I'm surprised that nothing has come out about David Duchovny. I thought I've heard stories about him over the years, but I could be totally wrong or just heard made up stuff. Unless he's just kept it separate from his work.
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Originally Posted by windom
I'm surprised that nothing has come out about David Duchovny. I thought I've heard stories about him over the years, but I could be totally wrong or just heard made up stuff. Unless he's just kept it separate from his work.
Duchovny had a supposed porn addiction at one point. That is why he broke up with Tea Leoni according to reports from tabloids and such.
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He wasn’t addicted to porn. He was a sex addict.
Old 01-12-18, 09:15 PM
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Yes, I remember something about Duchovny being a sex addict, like Michael Douglas. Seagal is no surprise (in fact, I think I predicted him a few pages back).
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Dan Schneider or Les Moonves?
Old 01-12-18, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Finisher
Dan Schneider or Les Moonves?
Moonves for sure.
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Schneider is the ultimate boogeyman raper of the blind items.
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So now Greta Gerwig and Rebecca Hall have come out saying they regret working with Woody Allen due to his past behaviour. There's nothing new that's come out about Allen - they fully knew before they worked with him... but for some reason NOW's the time to take a stand - after they've benefited from working with him.
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Originally Posted by Sonic
I would be shocked to hear Van Damme harassing women in Hollywood. I heard nothing but good stories from women about van damme.
Is this sarcasm or are you being sincere? I can't tell because I've never heard anything about Van Damme's personal life to support either opinion.
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Originally Posted by Coral
So now Greta Gerwig and Rebecca Hall have come out saying they regret working with Woody Allen due to his past behaviour. There's nothing new that's come out about Allen - they fully knew before they worked with him... but for some reason NOW's the time to take a stand - after they've benefited from working with him.
Mira Sorvino has come out with a similar statement of regret, also.

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Old 01-13-18, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Coral
So now Greta Gerwig and Rebecca Hall have come out saying they regret working with Woody Allen due to his past behaviour. There's nothing new that's come out about Allen - they fully knew before they worked with him... but for some reason NOW's the time to take a stand - after they've benefited from working with him.
Yea gotta jump on that bandwagon.
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Eliza Dushku saying she was molested at age 12 on True Lies set by the stunt coordinator.
Old 01-13-18, 10:55 AM
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When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.
Ever since, I have struggled with how and when to disclose this, if ever. At the time, I shared what happened to me with my parents, two adult friends and one of my older brothers. No one seemed ready to confront this taboo subject then, nor was I.
I am grateful to the women and men who have gone before me in recent months. The ever-growing list of sexual abuse and harassment victims who have spoken out with their truths have finally given me the ability to speak out. It has been indescribably exhausting, bottling this up inside me for all of these years.
I remember, so clearly 25 years later, how Joel Kramer made me feel special, how he methodically built my and my parents’ trust, for months grooming me; exactly how he lured me to his Miami hotel room with a promise to my parent that he would take me for a swim at the stunt crew’s hotel pool and for my first sushi meal thereafter. I remember vividly how he methodically drew the shades and turned down the lights; how he cranked up the air-conditioning to what felt like freezing levels, where exactly he placed me on one of the two hotel room beds, what movie he put on the television (Coneheads); how he disappeared in the bathroom and emerged, naked, bearing nothing but a small hand towel held flimsy at his mid-section. I remember what I was wearing (my favorite white denim shorts, thankfully, secured enough for me to keep on). I remember how he laid me down on the bed, wrapped me with his gigantic writhing body, and rubbed all over me. He spoke these words: “You’re not going to sleep on me now sweetie, stop pretending you’re sleeping,” as he rubbed harder and faster against my catatonic body. When he was ‘finished’, he suggested, “I think we should be careful…,” [about telling anyone] he meant. I was 12, he was 36.
I remember how afterwards, the taxi driver stared at me in the rear view mirror when Joel Kramer put me on his lap in the backseat and clutched me and grew aroused again; and how my eyes never left the driver’s eyes during that long ride over a Miami bridge, back to my hotel and parent. I remember how Joel Kramer grew cold with me in the ensuing weeks, how everything felt different on the set.
And I remember how soon-after, when my tough adult female friend (in whom I had confided my terrible secret on the condition of a trade that she let me drive her car around the Hollywood Hills) came out to the set to visit and face him, later that very same day, by no small coincidence, I was injured from a stunt-gone-wrong on the Harrier jet. With broken ribs, I spent the evening in the hospital. To be clear, over the course of those months rehearsing and filming True Lies, it was Joel Kramer who was responsible for my safety on a film that at the time broke new ground for action films. On a daily basis he rigged wires and harnesses on my 12 year old body. My life was literally in his hands: he hung me in the open air, from a tower crane, atop an office tower, 25+ stories high. Whereas he was supposed to be my protector, he was my abuser.
Why speak out now? I was 12, he was 36. It is incomprehensible. Why didn’t an adult on the set find his predatory advances strange — that over-the-top special attention he gave me. Fairly early on he nicknamed me “Jailbait” and brazenly called me by this name in a sick flirty way in front of others (at the time, I remember asking one of my older brothers what it meant). Sure, I’ve come to understand the terrible power dynamics that play into whistle-blowing by “subordinates” against persons in power, how difficult it can be for someone to speak up. But I was a child. Over the years I’ve really struggled as I’ve wondered how my life might have been different if someone, any one grown-up who witnessed his sick ways, had spoken up before he lured me to that hotel room.
Years ago, I had heard second hand that Joel Kramer was “found out” and forced to leave the business. I learned recently that in fact he still works at the top of the industry. And a few weeks ago, I found an internet photo of Joel Kramer hugging a young girl. That image has haunted me near nonstop since. I can no longer hide what happened.
Hollywood has been very good to me in many ways. Nevertheless, Hollywood also failed to protect me, a child actress. I like to think of myself as a tough Boston chick, in many ways I suppose not unlike Faith, Missy, or Echo. Through the years, brave fans have regularly shared with me how some of my characters have given them the conviction to stand up to their abusers. Now it is you who give me strength and conviction. I hope that speaking out will help other victims and protect against future abuse.
With every person that speaks out, every banner that drops down onto my iphone screen disclosing similar stories/truths, my resolve strengthens. Sharing these words, finally calling my abuser out publicly by name, brings the start of a new calm.
Eliza posted this on her FB page.
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Just joining the bandwagon though, right?
/sarcasm

That's pretty fucked up.
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Wow, IMDB works fast

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004273/b..._=nm_ov_bio_sm

Joel Kramer is a known child molester. He repeatedly abused children off set of numerous movies and then left their life in his hands on-set during stunts. Child actors were injured on purpose during stunts or threatened with being injured if they didn't cooperate with the abuse. After rubbing his naked body all over a 12 year old female actor at the age of 36 in a hotel room until he "finished", he then the next day broke her ribs in a stunt accident on the set of True Lies.
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Wow, fuck that guy! (not literally)
That is the worst example of this shit.
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Now this really makes me lose hope one of my favorite Arnold movies will ever see the light of day on Blu-ray or streaming.

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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
Still one of my favorite Arnold movies will probably never see the light of day on Blu-ray or streaming.
Yeah, it's a top 5 movie for me and it's bullshit that we still haven't seen a HD disc release.
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Originally Posted by Dan
Just joining the bandwagon though, right?
/sarcasm

That's pretty fucked up.
Yea, I don't have a problem with these women coming out with their past abuses, but I hate the cases of actors/actresses who didn't seem to have a problem benefiting/profiting off of the already known abuses of others - but decide to take a stand now.
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Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
Now this really makes me lose hope one of my favorite Arnold movies will ever see the light of day on Blu-ray or streaming.
One has nothing to do with the other.


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