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Old 10-15-17, 08:56 AM
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

This is a relatively well known story. But THR did a write-up in light of the Harvey Weinstein news.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...dition-1048828

Steven Seagal, a Silk Kimono and a "Private Rehearsal": One Actress Remembers Her Nightmare Audition
Seagal hires his assistants, balancing language to explain they're going to have sex with him regularly. I figured this happens to so many people. Weinstein is just getting in trouble because of the a-list talent involved. Nobody cares about poor Steven Seagal and a bunch of his assistants.

I'm still curious about the noticeable transition from these old Hollywood people, to new Hollywood people. Cocaine was traded up for kale. Are there two Hollywoods when it comes to this stuff? Newer Hollywood is a lot of film geeks with elitist attitudes. Are seemingly clean and innocent film nerds like JJ Abrams out diddling his assistants and jerking off in front of actresses? I don't think so. But I have to wonder.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Will be interesting to hear what QT "owns up to". It's possible my suspicion about him was correct.

There's always been truth to the thought that there's a fine line between Hollywood and the porn industry.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Harvey Weinstein: Woody Allen On “Tragic Situation”; Warns Of “Witch Hunt”

http://deadline.com/2017/10/harvey-w...nt-1202188712/
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Coral
There's always been truth to the thought that there's a fine line between Hollywood and the porn industry.
How do you fix that problem though? Hollywood is such a strange business. How many other professions can you think of that are based on an actors looks, sex appeal, and involved nudity clauses in contracts?

When it’s an industry that makes business decisions based on whether an actress will take off her clothes or not, you know it’s going to bring out the pervert in powerful producers/directors/power players.

How do you stop that kind of behavior when a completely legitimate or accepted reason for an actress not getting a role is because she refuses to do nudity?

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Old 10-15-17, 12:51 PM
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

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How do you fix that problem though? Hollywood is such a strange business. How many other professions can you think of that are based on an actors looks, sex appeal, and involved nudity clauses in contracts?

When it’s an industry that makes business decisions based on whether an actress will take off her clothes or not, you know it’s going to bring out the pervert in powerful producers/directors/power players.

How do you stop that kind of behavior when a completely legitimate or accepted reason for an actress not getting a role is because she refuses to do nudity?
Well, when I compared Hollywood to the porn industry - I wasn't really referring to things like nude scenes. I'm talking about how young women try to make it in Hollywood and when they fail, a number of them wind up in porn. And the fact that they're both kind of sleazy industries in which sex and drugs are rampant. The difference is that the porn industry is open about a lot of it (they have to be since sex is their business), and Hollywood pretends they're above all that stuff.

When it comes to nudity in Hollywood and how important looks are, a big chunk of the blame should be pointed at the actual audience. Based on their spending/viewing patterns, they average viewer seems to be placing a lot of importance on that aspect. It's a matter of supply and demand.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by TheMovieman
Harvey Weinstein: Woody Allen On “Tragic Situation”; Warns Of “Witch Hunt”

http://deadline.com/2017/10/harvey-w...nt-1202188712/
Fuck Woody Allen (figuratively).
The fucking creep.
Old 10-15-17, 01:49 PM
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by slop101
Fuck Woody Allen (figuratively).
The fucking creep.
Old 10-15-17, 03:01 PM
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by TheMovieman
Harvey Weinstein: Woody Allen On “Tragic Situation”; Warns Of “Witch Hunt”

http://deadline.com/2017/10/harvey-w...nt-1202188712/
What a joke!
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Coral
Well, when I compared Hollywood to the porn industry - I wasn't really referring to things like nude scenes. I'm talking about how young women try to make it in Hollywood and when they fail, a number of them wind up in porn.
That isn't as much the case anymore because a young actor/actress that doesn't make it in Hollywood still has a fall back situation where they can end up auditioning for reality tv shows of which their are hundreds made every year. And usually if your an agent of an actor who's career is going nowhere you just send your clients photo's to a reality tv casting director.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

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That isn't as much the case anymore because a young actor/actress that doesn't make it in Hollywood still has a fall back situation where they can end up auditioning for reality tv shows of which their are hundreds made every year. And usually if your an agent of an actor who's career is going nowhere you just send your clients photo's to a reality tv casting director.
You're talking about an actor/actress who's had some work in Hollywood and then their career dies. I'm talking about those who get absolutely nowhere... can't get cast except maybe as an extra. There are a lot more of those than all the reality TV shows can ever be able to cast.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Coral
Well, when I compared Hollywood to the porn industry - I wasn't really referring to things like nude scenes. I'm talking about how young women try to make it in Hollywood and when they fail, a number of them wind up in porn. And the fact that they're both kind of sleazy industries in which sex and drugs are rampant. The difference is that the porn industry is open about a lot of it (they have to be since sex is their business), and Hollywood pretends they're above all that stuff.

When it comes to nudity in Hollywood and how important looks are, a big chunk of the blame should be pointed at the actual audience. Based on their spending/viewing patterns, they average viewer seems to be placing a lot of importance on that aspect. It's a matter of supply and demand.
Absolutely. I didn’t mean to imply the only similarity between those two industries was nudity. I was trying to say, in overly simple terms, that any industry that could revolve around the motto “Sex sells” could potentially, and I would assume most likely, deal with ‘casting couch’ type sleazy producers, be it Hollywood, porn, strip clubs, etc.

I used the example of nudity because that’s the big difference between Hollywood (and porn) and the vast majority of other businesses. There are sleazebags who abuse their power everywhere but I would imagine a young actress who believes her big break depends on sex favors is a lot more likely to give in in Hollywood than someone applying for a job at Re/Max or Bank of America.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Be honest fellas, when your female friends and loved ones on Social Media started posting "me too" on their pages and it hit your Newsfeed...it sucked.

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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

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Be honest fellas, when you female friends and loved ones on Social Media started posting "me too" on their pages and it hit you Newsfeed...it sucked.
About that : Sure, it sucks in any circumstance, but there's a world of difference between getting whistled at by a construction worker and getting raped.
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About that : Sure, it sucks in any circumstance, but there's a world of difference between getting whistled at by a construction worker and getting raped.
What if they whistle while they rape you?
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About that : Sure, it sucks in any circumstance, but there's a world of difference between getting whistled at by a construction worker and getting raped.
About that:

I had friends who gave details of what happened to them. Just being whistled at would have been a Blessing...
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

I found this online but didn't want to start another thread as its kind of related. Honest Trailers creator Andy Signore has been fired from Defy Media, owner of all the Screen Junkies shows. For pretty much all the same allegations brought on Harvey Weinstein.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...claims-1046756
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

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Be honest fellas, when your female friends and loved ones on Social Media started posting "me too" on their pages and it hit your Newsfeed...it sucked.
Yeah, but I already knew about most of them, and assumed that most women have been assaulted in one sense or another at one point or another. I'm glad they're doing it - plenty of people out there have zero idea.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

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Be honest fellas, when your female friends and loved ones on Social Media started posting "me too" on their pages and it hit your Newsfeed...it sucked.
None of my female friends were assaulted by Harvey Weinstein. You guys are pretty connected.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Bluelitespecial
I found this online but didn't want to start another thread as its kind of related. Honest Trailers creator Andy Signore has been fired from Defy Media, owner of all the Screen Junkies shows. For pretty much all the same allegations brought on Harvey Weinstein.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...claims-1046756
Damn many are being called out. This also happened a few days ago:

Amazon Studios Chief Suspended After Sexual Harassment Claim

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/12/b...k-hackett.html
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Interesting article by screenwriter Scott Rosenberg

http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-ro...ns-1202189525/

So, yeah, I was there.
And let me tell you one thing.
Let’s be perfectly clear about one thing:

Everybody-fucking-knew.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Bobby Shalom
Interesting article by screenwriter Scott Rosenberg

http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-ro...ns-1202189525/

So, yeah, I was there.
And let me tell you one thing.
Let’s be perfectly clear about one thing:

Everybody-fucking-knew.
Man, that was good. Finally, somebody besides the victims is being honest.
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Re: Decades of Sexual Harassment Accusations Against Harvey Weinstein (New York Times

Originally Posted by Bobby Shalom
Interesting article by screenwriter Scott Rosenberg

http://deadline.com/2017/10/scott-ro...ns-1202189525/

So, yeah, I was there.
And let me tell you one thing.
Let’s be perfectly clear about one thing:

Everybody-fucking-knew.
Yup. That one is good.

I would hope Quentin does something similiar...
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I'm happy I was never faced with this dilemma. Because I probably would have shut up about it too. In almost any other industry, you can expect to get another opportunity. But becoming part of a clique of Hollywood elite is a one-time thing. I think it's easy to criticize those who stayed silent - posting from your cubicle or whatever.

It's good that it's getting out there, and there will likely be an awareness and shift away from this kind of thing.

The real predators (like drug addicts) will just get more secretive and keep doing it.
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