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Old 04-03-19, 12:08 PM
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

Originally Posted by Toddarino
It looks ok. As long as they don’t make theJoker Bruce’s half brother, I’ll check it out. It’s still not the version of my favorite comic villain I want to see.
What else bothers me is how DC bungles everything. This could very well be a one off, that goes nowhere. We’ll get five minutes of the true Joker at the end. Then nothing for a few years until the Joker pops back up by a different actor and no connection to this film.
This is a standalone Elseworld movie. Joaquin Phoenix did not sign on to a "franchise" and be in future Batman or Suicide Squad movies.

So this version is one off and any future incarnation would be a different actor.
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Todd Phillips is my biggest issue. He hasn't (IMHO) directed anything remotely good since the first Hangover. Many will debate that as well. But how he managed to fuck up both follow-ups is beyond me. After Hangover 2 he should never been allowed to write or direct again.
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

The responses here amuse me as I remember similar comments when The Killing Joke came out. A lot of people then also hated the "concrete" origin of the Joker back then even if there was the out that maybe he was remembering things wrong. This is just another version of the Joker. Except now, it's viewed thru the gritty and dirty prism of someone like Martin Scorsese. Of course, it's not Martin, but Todd Phillips directing and Martin is only producing. That gives me pause as well, but I do wonder if Scorsese is actually hands-off or doing his best Spielberg impression of"hands-off" ala Poltergeist (aka ghost directing)?

Anyway, the trailer is far better than I thought it would be and I'm intrigued by it. Before this popped, I had zero interest in the Joker (thank Leto!) but I may be on-board now. Jokers mixed with Mean Streets, Taxi Driver and King of Comedy? Hmm, interesting.
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

This is like an Elseworld's story where Norman Bates becomes the Joker.
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^ Yeah, as I've said before...if you approach DC Films with Multiverse sensibilities they can all live and exist as separate stories/events. This Joker film is a great example of this.
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The Passion of The Joker. Watch his ass get constantly kicked!
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

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The Passion of The Joker. Watch his ass get constantly kicked!
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

For those who are fretting about "continuity" and "definitive versions" and "origin stories" and etc. and such as...
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I just look at DCU like Saturday Morning Cartoons. There might be some continuity. But I don't think they care.
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Yeah, that is the one benefit to The Joker. He doesn't have a definitive origin so this could just be one that he pulls out for this film.
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This one has me intrigued....
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I was actually highly skeptical on this and figured it'd be a hard pass from me, but damn that trailer actually makes it seem like this could be good.
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^ Yeah, as I've said before...if you approach DC Films with Multiverse sensibilities they can all live and exist as separate stories/events. This Joker film is a great example of this.
That may work for you, and me as comic book fans but it's going to confuse the hell out of the general movie going audience.

So is this the origin of the Heath Ledger Joker or that other shitty Joker with the grill?
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

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That may work for you, and me as comic book fans but it's going to confuse the hell out of the general movie going audience.

So is this the origin of the Heath Ledger Joker or that other shitty Joker with the grill?
I doubt it.
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

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That may work for you, and me as comic book fans but it's going to confuse the hell out of the general movie going audience.

So is this the origin of the Heath Ledger Joker or that other shitty Joker with the grill?
Yeah, I vividly remember having to explain to people over and over in 2005 how Batman Begins was not a prequel to Batman 1989 and was a totally new take on the character. This was even after they had seen it. I had had one friend that was convinced that it was a prequel because of the Joker tease at the end, even while he was confused about it not being Joker who killed Batman's parents in the film.
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Some friends at work were asking me if this takes place within the current DCEUniverse and I just told them that it was a standalone flick.
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

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That may work for you, and me as comic book fans but it's going to confuse the hell out of the general movie going audience.

I'm not worried about that because if they care they'll ask and get the story.


So is this the origin of the Heath Ledger Joker or that other shitty Joker with the grill?
You take that back!!!
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You take that back!!!
Are we not calling it a grill anymore?
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Originally Posted by Timber
Are we not calling it a grill anymore?
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Originally Posted by Timber
Are we not calling it a grill anymore?
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Re: Joker (2019, D: Todd Phillips) -- S: Joaquin Phoenix

So the origin of the Joker is some guy who keeps getting beat up by strangers? Great.
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Welp, they coulda just killed his parents instead...
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Originally Posted by dex14

Don’t feel bad. Just wait til Mike86 gets here.
Hey now! I’m actually not the most negative person in a DC thread for once.
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This makes me want to slit my wrists.
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