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Old 10-07-22, 03:49 PM
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by RocShemp
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Supposedly Cavill appears in a brightly colored version of the MOS suit, introduced by the John Williams theme. The scene is said to end with Cavill saying "Black Adam, we need to talk."

It sucks the red & blue suit puts the final nail in the coffin of ZSJL but I'm not thrilled with the use of Williams' score. It's iconic but I feel it should stay in the Dinner and Donner-adjacent movies.




IF true I may actually see this in the theater just for that.
Someone confirm when released.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Spoiler:
Supposedly Cavill appears in a brightly colored version of the MOS suit, introduced by the John Williams theme. The scene is said to end with Cavill saying "Black Adam, we need to talk."

It sucks the red & blue suit puts the final nail in the coffin of ZSJL but I'm not thrilled with the use of Williams' score. It's iconic but I feel it should stay in the Dinner and Donner-adjacent movies.


Spoiler:
Nah, it's going on 50 years at this point. Williams theme is as much a part of Superman at this point as the S or the cape.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
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Nah, it's going on 50 years at this point. Williams theme is as much a part of Superman at this point as the S or the cape.


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Like I said, it's undeniably iconic. But I feel it doesn't mesh well with the MOS iteration. Check even the TAS and JLU versions didn't use the theme. Ditto for most (if not all) the DTV animated movies.

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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

I’m giving this a shot but frankly, I’m just not feeling it, so to speak.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by Orbi-Wan Techno
Iím giving this a shot but frankly, Iím just not feeling it, so to speak.
I'm in the same boat. As I've mentioned before, I'm more excited about Dr. Fate, Hawkman and the rest of the JSA. That being said, I'm curious to see how this fits (and helps continue) the DCEU.
Spoiler:
I'm hoping this takes place before BvS, thus justifying Superman wearing the red and blue suit without contradicting ZSJL. Afterall, the MOS suit is a lot more colorful than the Snyder films would lead you to believe.



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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Spoiler:
Clark can wear the blue suit post ZSJL, why not? Black suit in the comics was the recovery suit anyway.


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Old 10-08-22, 07:11 PM
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by stingermck
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Clark can wear the blue suit post ZSJL, why not? Black suit in the comics was the recovery suit anyway.






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That is indeed what it is in the comics. However, it is traditional Kryptonian garb in the MoS/BvS/ZSJL continuity. People forget Clark also wears a black suit when Zod enters his mind to persuade him to join in the terraforming of Earth, during one scene of MoS. The red and blue suit is meant to appeal to humans. When Clark wears the black suit in ZSJL he's embracing his Kryptonian heritage. It's only after he's influenced by the Anti-Life Equation that he reverts to the red and blue suit, as he serves as a herald of Darkseid.

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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Yup I had forgotten. Because its all dumb.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by stingermck
Yup I had forgotten. Because its all dumb.
To each their own.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

This movie is an oddity in my opinion. Iím curious about it because of how long itís been in development, but it also looks like a generic movie starring The Rock that also happens to be a comic book film, and one that doesnít look incredibly unique at that. Iíll probably see it but Iím not overly enthused about it.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by RocShemp
To each their own.
I'm just saying Snyder fans don't need to lose it if he's wearing Blue.

Originally Posted by Mike86
This movie is an oddity in my opinion. Iím curious about it because of how long itís been in development, but it also looks like a generic movie starring The Rock that also happens to be a comic book film, and one that doesnít look incredibly unique at that. Iíll probably see it but Iím not overly enthused about it.
I agree it is an oddity. Sure Rock is the biggest hype man for his movies but all this "balance of power will change in DCU" rubs me wrong. It's just Black Adam. It's not a top tier character. It's not Superman. But you know Rock would love to be lead in DC.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by stingermck
I'm just saying Snyder fans don't need to lose it if he's wearing Blue.
I get it. It's just a continuity issue that irks me. To be honest, when Clark opens his shirt to reveal the S at the end, I would have preferred Snyder had kept him in the red and blue suit for that scene. The emblem pops so much better when it's red.

Originally Posted by stingermck
I agree it is an oddity. Sure Rock is the biggest hype man for his movies but all this "balance of power will change in DCU" rubs me wrong. It's just Black Adam. It's not a top tier character. It's not Superman. But you know Rock would love to be lead in DC.
That's my same issue. I like Black Adam but not for the reasons the Rock imagines. It's as if he thinks he's playing Darkseid. He's interesting because he's a pragmatist. Not because he's some iconic powerhouse (which he's not). Heck, I wouldn't even call him an anti-hero.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Yeah, I feel like the character really isnít even all that deserving of his own film truly, and I think thatís a problem.

The Rock is most certainly a star and can carry a film easily, but Black Adam isnít some beloved character that weíre all itching to see. At best he seems like a b rate character and because a huge actor is attached to play him weíre supposed to care.

I feel like The Rock could have played a variety of other characters if he wanted a part in the DCEU and Black Adam should have been relegated to a villain in a Shazam film.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by Mike86
Black Adam should have been relegated to a villain in a Shazam film.
That was the plan when Shazam! was being made. In fact, Dwayne Johnson was the first actor that was cast for that movie. Then all of a sudden he insisted the character should have a solo film instead and he managed to convince the WB execs back then of the same. Which, now that I think of it, fits the topsy-turvy DCEU mindset. Heroes don't get solo introductory movies before their big team up film and now a villain gets a solo film with no intention of ever having him battle his hero nemesis in any subsequent film. Afterall, the Rock is presumably pushing for not only a Black Adam vs Superman movie, it's claimed he also wants a movie where the Justice League and Suicide Squad team up to fight Black Adam. That's ridiculously over-the-top for such a second tier character.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

It is a little difficult getting excited for a Black Adam movie without Captain Marvel in sight. I wish we had gotten a cameo or something of Johnson in a preceding film.

And Shazam 2 looks like it will have nothing to do with this movie. Heavy focus on Mary Marvel in that one.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by stingermck
I'm just saying Snyder fans don't need to lose it if he's wearing Blue.
The Snyderverse is dead. What Snyder fans think at this point is irrelevant.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
The Snyderverse is dead. What Snyder fans think at this point is irrelevant.
Can't call myself a fan of everything he does (300 is fun but overrated and Sucker Punch is terrible) but I really enjoyed MoS, BvS:UE, and ZSJL. I don't necessarily need him to return as director but would like to see the continuity and story threads he established to remain canon and continue alongside the future DCEU.

On a totally different subject, since when does the helmet of Nabu lack eyeholes?


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Here are two tracks from the score by Lorne Balfe:

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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by RocShemp
Can't call myself a fan of everything he does (300 is fun but overrated and Sucker Punch is terrible) but I really enjoyed MoS, BvS:UE, and ZSJL. I don't necessarily need him to return as director but would like to see the continuity and story threads he established to remain canon and continue alongside the future DCEU.
WB doesn't really give a shit about ZSJL. That was done by HBO Max as content for their service. Be happy that you got it. Nothing from it is continuing forward.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Forget the name, he isn't coming back (for the best) - but we have four more movies coming set in the existing universe, and if rumors are true (and this film works out) we'll have more coming after that. If rumors are true I do like what WB is doing trying to strengthen the upcoming movies with added scenes/cameos.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

Originally Posted by Mike86
Yeah, I feel like the character really isnít even all that deserving of his own film truly, and I think thatís a problem.

The Rock is most certainly a star and can carry a film easily, but Black Adam isnít some beloved character that weíre all itching to see. At best he seems like a b rate character and because a huge actor is attached to play him weíre supposed to care.

I feel like The Rock could have played a variety of other characters if he wanted a part in the DCEU and Black Adam should have been relegated to a villain in a Shazam film.
I think Black Adam does have high visibility with the changes they've made for him since around the time of Geoff Johns JSA, and I have a hard time thinking of another prominent DC hero that the Rock would fit better as without, let's say, a lot of complaints from a certain section of the fanbase. Maybe I'm missing someone. And even if he is a b-tier character, his powerset certainly isn't and it's not like we haven't seen b-tier superheroes have success.

But heck it gets the JSA on the screen in some fashion so let's go b-tier.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

The Black Adam world premiere is tonight. Not sure if people attending are under NDA, but since the movie doesn’t officially open for 9 more days, please don’t seek out spoilers, screen grabs and post them here. Even in spoiler tags. Just a small request.
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Re: Black Adam (2022, D: Collet-Serra) -- S: Dwayne Johnson

What’s the Black Adam/Shazam! connection? I know same lightning bolt, but I don’t know the lore.

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