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Old 06-09-17, 09:25 PM
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25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

What are your thoughts? There's a lot of foreign films here I haven't seen yet, and some odd choices like I'm Not There and The 40-Year-Old Virgin.



Spoiler:
1. There Will Be Blood
2. Spirited Away
3. Million Dollar Baby
4. A Touch Of Sin
5. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu
6. Yi Yi
7. Inside Out
8. Boyhood
9. Summer Hours
10. The Hurt Locker
11. Inside Llewyn Davis
12. Timbuktu
13. In Jackson Heights
14. L'Enfant
15. White Material
16. Munich
17. Three Times
18. The Gleaners and I
19. Mad Max: Fury Road
20. Moonlight
21. Wendy and Lucy
22. I'm Not There
23. Silent Light
24. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
25. The 40-Year-Old Virgin


It's a lengthy read, also includes some insight from other prominent filmmakers.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...tionfront&_r=0
Old 06-10-17, 12:42 AM
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

No love for Toy Story 3? Crash? Black Swan. Juno. Hell even Inception.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

IMO, except for a few (maybe 5), I disagree with that list.

Here are mine, INPO (tomorrow I may change my mind)

1. Mulholland Drive
2. The Master
3. The Turin Horse
4. The White Ribbon
5. 4 Months, 3 Weeks & 2 Days
6. Dogville
7. Talk to Her
8. Dogtooth
9. Under the Skin
10. Ida
11. No Country for Old Men
12. Eastern Promises
13. A Prophet
14. Werckmeister Harmonies
15. What Time Is It There?
16. Millennium Mambo
17. Kairo
18. The Headless Woman
19. Cache
20. The Lives of Others
21. Zodiac
22. The 25th Hour
23. Shame
24. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
25. The Secret in Their Eyes

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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

I always preferred Brokeback vs Crash that year, and I'm not sure BM would even make my list.

It's definitely a list created to ensure there is a decent representation of various genres, but I don't even think those choices were very strong. The funniest film I've seen in theaters this century was Borat, not Virgin, but hey, they're a nice sampling that I really can't argue against, they're all decent to great films. Whether or not they're the "best" is irrelevant.
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inri - love that you listed Shame, a movie that should have gotten more attention, and nice list overall. 👍
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

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inri - love that you listed Shame, a movie that should have gotten more attention ��
So far I love all of Steve McQueen's (3) films, but IMO that is his masterpiece.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

yeah I'm not down with that list. The 40 Year Old Virgin might not even make my Top 25 comedies of the 21st Century list. (ok it probably would but you get my point.)

Exclusions that are unforgivable in my eyes:

Zodiac
The New World
Mulholland Drive
In The Mood For Love
Lost In Translation
OJ Simpson Made In America
Holy Motors
Amores Perros
City of God
The Royal Tenenbaums
Before Sunset
In the Mood For Love
Anvil! The Story of Anvil.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

Pretty sure we've done this before but the first few that come to mind for me:

Almost Famous
Memento
Life of Pi
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
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Yi Yi is most deserving. Good to see it get some recognition.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

SPIRITED AWAY and A TOUCH OF SIN are the only ones I agree with. Of course, any such list that doesn't include KILL BILL, VOL. 1 is immediately dismissed as bogus in my household.

(Thanks to the OP for typing up the titles since my computer has trouble loading the link.)
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

It kind of looks like a list made by a movie snob who is trying to show how refined their movie taste is, but fails. Ultimately, I guess it's all subjective, but There Will Be Blood as the best movie of the century so far? Please. Boyhood? Great idea for a project, but ultimately not as good as the hype, IMO.

The only ones I could possibly agree with are Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and maybe Inside Out. Kill Bill, No Country For Old Men, The Dark Knight, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, The Departed, Donnie Darko, The Incredibles, City of God, and Oldboy are just a few I'd put on my list ahead of these.
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Well the list is a great article to use as evidence for something I've been thinking about a lot lately. There just aren't any great movies anymore. And the few good ones are highly devisive. I love Tree of Life and Mulholland Dr. but an equal amount of people dislike those films.

There used to be those once in a decade films that everyone could agree on their quality. In the '40s you had Casablanca, in the 50s Singin' in the Rain, in the 60s 2001:ASO, in the seventies Jaws and Star Wars. Where's the once in a decade movie? Where is it? The answer is, we've lost our way. We don't know how to make them anymore.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

Lot of stuff on the list I haven't seen, but I regard Amelie, Almost Famous, and Atonement more highly than anything on that list I have seen. And that's just the A's.

One title I'm really surprised to see is White Material. I've picked that up in B&N during the Criterion sales plenty of times, but never closed the sale.
This may have sufficiently piqued my curiosity to finally get it next month.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

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Well the list is a great article to use as evidence for something I've been thinking about a lot lately. There just aren't any great movies anymore. And the few good ones are highly devisive. I love Tree of Life and Mulholland Dr. but an equal amount of people dislike those films.

There used to be those once in a decade films that everyone could agree on their quality. In the '40s you had Casablanca, in the 50s Singin' in the Rain, in the 60s 2001:ASO, in the seventies Jaws and Star Wars. Where's the once in a decade movie? Where is it? The answer is, we've lost our way. We don't know how to make them anymore.
The major difference is that pre-internet America had a much more singular, agreed upon culture. Everybody saw the same tv shows, listened to the same music and watched the same movies. Nowadays everything is catering to a niche.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

Well, not everyone would agree on 2001 or Star Wars. But, IMO, there are great films for each decade:

80s: Raging Bull, Back to the Future, Raiders of the Lost Ark

90s: Silence of the Lambs, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, Toy Story, Shawshank Redemption.
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The only thing the list got right is not having the Dark Knight on it.
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

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The major difference is that pre-internet America had a much more singular, agreed upon culture. Everybody saw the same tv shows, listened to the same music and watched the same movies. Nowadays everything is catering to a niche.
But shouldn't there still be a "once in a decade movie"? Something really big.
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Well, not everyone would agree on 2001 or Star Wars. But, IMO, there are great films for each decade:

80s: Raging Bull, Back to the Future, Raiders of the Lost Ark

90s: Silence of the Lambs, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, Toy Story, Shawshank Redemption.
Yes there are great films for each decade...and then it just stops. The '00s and the '10s have got nothing. And the few great films we've had during that time are controversial, not everyone can agree on their merits.
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IMO the '00's belong to Mulholland Drive.
The '10's is still too soon.

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I'm a huge Bob Dylan fan and he's my music hero. You either love the guy or you don't. There's not much middle ground and I get the criticism he gets as a musician. One such criticism is that he is "pretentious". When "I'm Not There" came out in 2007, with a tremendous cast, and Dylan's music as the soundtrack, I felt this was a perfect opportunity for people who never gave Dylan's music a chance to have an open mind.

I was absolutely wrong. "I'm Not There" was such a disservice to Dylan and only reinforced the notion that he is "pretentious" by making the most pretentious movie I have ever seen. What a disapointment! It made me want to hate Dylan.

To say that it is one of the best 25 movies of the century as of now is crazy. There are others that I don't agree with but the fact that it made the list shows how wrong it is.

This is my two cents but Todd Haynes, you suck pal.
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This is my two cents but Todd Haynes, you suck pal.
Safe, Far from Heaven & Carol says he doesn't, at least to me.
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Mulholland Drive wasn't even a movie. It was an aborted TV show with a bunch of incoherent crap added as time fluffer so it could be called a feature film. Sorry, Lynch is a performance artist whose sole purpose is to give the middle finger to everybody.
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I like the movies on that list, but outside of #1 and #2 I don't think they'd be near the top of my favorites this century.

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Mulholland Drive wasn't even a movie. It was an aborted TV show with a bunch of incoherent crap added as time fluffer so it could be called a feature film. Sorry, Lynch is a performance artist whose sole purpose is to give the middle finger to everybody.
Which makes it more impressive that it works as brilliantly as it does. Still one of the only movies I've seen that successfully showed intent vs. reality, even if it does fallback on the "It was mostly a dream." plotline.

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Originally Posted by Abob Teff
Mulholland Drive wasn't even a movie. It was an aborted TV show with a bunch of incoherent crap added as time fluffer so it could be called a feature film. Sorry, Lynch is a performance artist whose sole purpose is to give the middle finger to everybody.
Blasphemy! Oh, you'll smoke a turd in hell for that!
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Re: 25 Best Films of the 21st Century So Far, according to The New York Times

This list kind of reaffirms my opinion that they are very few classic/really great movies anymore since the turn of the century.

I don't know what happened (because there are so many great films in 90's), but my DVD/BluRay collection thinned out after 2000.

Maybe all of the great creative talent shifted to tv as we are in that golden age now. I just know that 15-20 years ago I would rent 2-3 new movies a weekend and now I binge watch tv shows instead.

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