Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
#26
DVD Talk Hero
re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I don't think Zemeckis has gone for story achievements anymore. He's more of a technology mover. He's been on that since Forrest Gump. Everyone of his films have used or tried to use new technology. Sometimes it works and sometimes it looks creepy like those creepy eyed characters from that CGI christmas movie he did.
I'll probably use Sinemia for this.
I'll probably use Sinemia for this.
#27
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I read that as "I'll probably sue Sinemia for this"
Saw a commercial for this recently. Looks like it might be good but I'm surprised there is a cross dressing angle to this, it struck me odd to hear them use the term "hate crime" in a period piece. Isn't that a relatively recent term- maybe 80s?
Saw a commercial for this recently. Looks like it might be good but I'm surprised there is a cross dressing angle to this, it struck me odd to hear them use the term "hate crime" in a period piece. Isn't that a relatively recent term- maybe 80s?
#28
DVD Talk Limited Edition
re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Mark Hogancamp's real-life attack took place in 2000. Judging from the cars I could glimpse in the trailer, the movie is probably set around that time, and into the following years while he was building his village. That village, of course, is "set" in the 1940's, and the animated CGI dolls do give off a period piece vibe, I suppose.
#29
Moderator
Thread Starter
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Reviews coming in: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wel...arwen/reviews/
Sounds like it isn't very good, unfortunately...
Sounds like it isn't very good, unfortunately...
#32
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I don't think Zemeckis has gone for story achievements anymore. He's more of a technology mover. He's been on that since Forrest Gump. Everyone of his films have used or tried to use new technology. Sometimes it works and sometimes it looks creepy like those creepy eyed characters from that CGI christmas movie he did.
#33
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Likewise Cast Away was a green screen mess. Wilson was an absolute bitch to render. All those particles of sand set a new standard in CG.
#34
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Reviews coming in: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/wel...arwen/reviews/
Sounds like it isn't very good, unfortunately...
Sounds like it isn't very good, unfortunately...
#35
Banned
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Conducting miss-aisle drills and listening to their rock n roll
Posts: 20,052
Received 168 Likes
on
126 Posts
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Cast Away used a tremendous amount of special effects. At times even the direction of the wind and the ways the palm trees are swaying in the breeze was done with effects.
#36
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I don't think Zemeckis has gone for story achievements anymore. He's more of a technology mover. He's been on that since Forrest Gump. Everyone of his films have used or tried to use new technology. Sometimes it works and sometimes it looks creepy like those creepy eyed characters from that CGI christmas movie he did.
#37
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
The comments in this thread are giving me an Elgin Park vibe. Similar situations. If you're not familiar with Elgin Park, check out YouTube.
#38
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
He did three of those creepy eyed CGI movies in a row. "The Polar Express", "Beowulf" and "A Christmas Carol". I agree though that he is mostly obsessed with technology over substance. But I am a huge fan of many of his films: "Death Becomes Her", "Back to the Future 1 and 2", "Contact", "Used Cars", "What Lies Beneath", "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand".
I did like Beowulf, though.
#40
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I don't disagree with that at all. I was surprised that it did turn out to be a fairly standard Addiction movie with all the well-worn plot-points of the genre.
I haven't seen the documentary in years, -did Hogancamp actually go to court and face his attackers as is shown in the trailer?
I haven't seen the documentary in years, -did Hogancamp actually go to court and face his attackers as is shown in the trailer?
#41
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hail to the Redskins!
Posts: 25,295
Likes: 0
Received 49 Likes
on
38 Posts
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
These reviews are brutal:
"The amazing-but-true story of the idiosyncratic artist Mark Hogancamp has been turned into a bloated Hollywood techno fantasy that has to be seen to be disbelieved."
"Welcome to Marwen is not only one of the worst films released by a major studio in 2018; it's also one of the most offensive."
"Mind-numbingly immense, joylessly violent and utterly lifeless... You've got to see it to believe it, though I wouldn't advise doing so."
"The amazing-but-true story of the idiosyncratic artist Mark Hogancamp has been turned into a bloated Hollywood techno fantasy that has to be seen to be disbelieved."
"Welcome to Marwen is not only one of the worst films released by a major studio in 2018; it's also one of the most offensive."
"Mind-numbingly immense, joylessly violent and utterly lifeless... You've got to see it to believe it, though I wouldn't advise doing so."
#42
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hail to the Redskins!
Posts: 25,295
Likes: 0
Received 49 Likes
on
38 Posts
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
The crazy thing is that the documentary itself has a 98% rating on RT:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marwencol/
I guess this is a case where art shouldn't imitate life.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marwencol/
I guess this is a case where art shouldn't imitate life.
#43
Banned by request
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I read this was a fairly low budget one, like $40 mil, which is cheap considering the special effects and cast.
This reminds me of when Forrest Gump was coming out. I was a projectionist and we got a few trailers for it. The teaser was heavily skewed towards the action, trying to show it as a straight up action flick. A few weeks later we got a note from Paramount asking to destroy those trailers and to put some new ones on. The new trailer nixed all of the action and went straight towards the emotional drama. Then that was nixed and we got the longer more common trailer everyone saw before the movie came out that has action and drama.
Considering it was also Zemeckis, I'm wondering if he was using the same approach to this one as Gump. He wants it to be several things, but they don't know how to market it.
This reminds me of when Forrest Gump was coming out. I was a projectionist and we got a few trailers for it. The teaser was heavily skewed towards the action, trying to show it as a straight up action flick. A few weeks later we got a note from Paramount asking to destroy those trailers and to put some new ones on. The new trailer nixed all of the action and went straight towards the emotional drama. Then that was nixed and we got the longer more common trailer everyone saw before the movie came out that has action and drama.
Considering it was also Zemeckis, I'm wondering if he was using the same approach to this one as Gump. He wants it to be several things, but they don't know how to market it.
#44
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Carell probably needs to reconsider taking on this kind of obvious award-bait role as it doesn't seem to pay off much. Reminds me of Robin Williams' career in some ways.
#45
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Exactly, another actor who did great comedy, no longer doing comedy.
#46
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I read this was a fairly low budget one, like $40 mil, which is cheap considering the special effects and cast.
This reminds me of when Forrest Gump was coming out. I was a projectionist and we got a few trailers for it. The teaser was heavily skewed towards the action, trying to show it as a straight up action flick. A few weeks later we got a note from Paramount asking to destroy those trailers and to put some new ones on. The new trailer nixed all of the action and went straight towards the emotional drama. Then that was nixed and we got the longer more common trailer everyone saw before the movie came out that has action and drama.
Considering it was also Zemeckis, I'm wondering if he was using the same approach to this one as Gump. He wants it to be several things, but they don't know how to market it.
This reminds me of when Forrest Gump was coming out. I was a projectionist and we got a few trailers for it. The teaser was heavily skewed towards the action, trying to show it as a straight up action flick. A few weeks later we got a note from Paramount asking to destroy those trailers and to put some new ones on. The new trailer nixed all of the action and went straight towards the emotional drama. Then that was nixed and we got the longer more common trailer everyone saw before the movie came out that has action and drama.
Considering it was also Zemeckis, I'm wondering if he was using the same approach to this one as Gump. He wants it to be several things, but they don't know how to market it.
Last edited by DWilson; 12-21-18 at 12:09 PM.
#47
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
#48
Moderator
Thread Starter
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
I saw it. It wasn't THAT bad. But yes, it is schmaltzy. Especially if you go in comparing it to the doc. A lot of fiction incorporated in. I saw some reviews say it was the worst movie of the year which is ridiculous.
I thought the effects with the dolls were impressive.
Oh, and I can’t believe Zemeckis found a hamfisted way to throw in the Delorean.
I thought the effects with the dolls were impressive.
Oh, and I can’t believe Zemeckis found a hamfisted way to throw in the Delorean.
Last edited by dex14; 12-21-18 at 06:18 PM.
#49
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
Currently expected to only make $2.5M for the 3-day weekend.
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Mimi's Hometown
Posts: 502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Welcome to Marwen (2018, D: Zemeckis) S: Carrell, Mann, Kruger, Monáe, Wever
These reviews are brutal:
"The amazing-but-true story of the idiosyncratic artist Mark Hogancamp has been turned into a bloated Hollywood techno fantasy that has to be seen to be disbelieved."
"Welcome to Marwen is not only one of the worst films released by a major studio in 2018; it's also one of the most offensive."
"Mind-numbingly immense, joylessly violent and utterly lifeless... You've got to see it to believe it, though I wouldn't advise doing so."
"The amazing-but-true story of the idiosyncratic artist Mark Hogancamp has been turned into a bloated Hollywood techno fantasy that has to be seen to be disbelieved."
"Welcome to Marwen is not only one of the worst films released by a major studio in 2018; it's also one of the most offensive."
"Mind-numbingly immense, joylessly violent and utterly lifeless... You've got to see it to believe it, though I wouldn't advise doing so."