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Old 05-08-17, 09:25 AM   #101
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Dormammu isn't a celestial either.
Regardless, it was still the second movie in a row where the heroes at some point and time fights a giant smoky head.

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But the only thing living was the planet aka Ego. It's not populated by anyone else but Mantis and they took her with them. So no one was killed in its destruction besides Ego who was the villain.
But it was still an entire planet. It doesn't ridiculous to have a superhero movie in which the primary villain is a planet just so they could say they blew up a planet? It would be just as dumb if Mogo was blown up.

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DC films show populated areas being destroyed and the heroes not doing much to save civilians
You mean like how in Age of Ultron two cities got destroyed which led to that dumbass villain in Civil War? It's even more ridiculous when people criticize it since Superman was just one person and The Avengers were six people so of course it would be hard for him to save people.

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The destruction porn is really only a problem for most of us who criticize it for that reason.
Not really. People were criticizing the wanton destruction in MOS as just being done as being excessive and being done for no purpose. But an entire planet being blown up is A OK and not excessive at all since they say its a bad planet.

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Heroes are supposed to be saving people
Well the good news is we don't have to worry about that anymore since no every superhero movie has a throw away line about how the city is abandoned.

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Seems like you're reaching for something to criticize that's not there in order to defend DC.
Seriously? This might be one of the most hilarious statements ever on this board considering who is saying it. And I'm not trying to defend the DC movies. I just find it funny how each Marvel movie is having increasingly high levels of destruction that fan boys ignore. But in DC movies it's all they want to talk about.
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i thought it was fun and funny but i think they over did it with trying to be funny.

i mean alot of the funny bits seemed forced
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Regardless, it was still the second movie in a row where the heroes at some point and time fights a giant smoky head.
What was the first giant smoky head they fought, again?

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But it was still an entire planet. It doesn't ridiculous to have a superhero movie in which the primary villain is a planet just so they could say they blew up a planet? It would be just as dumb if Mogo was blown up.
Except that planet literally was a single being. I mean, that's the character. If Ego had constructed himself as the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man and planted marshmallows on all the planets over millions of years they would have blown up a fifty-foot marshmallow man. Are you specifically arguing that because Ego isn't his dad in the comics, they thought they needed to go this route in order to justify blowing up a planet?

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You mean like how in Age of Ultron two cities got destroyed which led to that dumbass villain in Civil War? It's even more ridiculous when people criticize it since Superman was just one person and The Avengers were six people so of course it would be hard for him to save people.
I won't argue the merits of Baron Zemo, but I will offer the Avengers face more consequences for their actions in sequels than most heroes since the Ghostbusters.

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Not really. People were criticizing the wanton destruction in MOS as just being done as being excessive and being done for no purpose. But an entire planet being blown up is A OK and not excessive at all since they say its a bad planet.
I don't understand the last sentence. Is "they say" different than how he almost absorbed every living being in the galaxy by consuming all other planets? I mean, Ego showed us his actions, right? It wasn't just opinion or hearsay. It's like how the Ghostbusters didn't just read about Evo Shandor's intentions in Tolbin's Spirit Guide. They saw the actual ramifications of the gate to another dimension.

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Well the good news is we don't have to worry about that anymore since no every superhero movie has a throw away line about how the city is abandoned.
The choices seem to be 1. Innocent people hurt in destruction, heroes suffer no consequences. 2. Innocent people hurt in destruction and heroes suffer consequences. 3. No innocent people are hurt in destruction. It doesn't seem like you're satisfied with any of those. Should some but not all of the people at the bottom of Central Park West been splat with big chunks of building and up it to an R rating, but then later they evacuate but still the Ghostbusters are blamed?

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Seriously? This might be one of the most hilarious statements ever on this board considering who is saying it. And I'm not trying to defend the DC movies. I just find it funny how each Marvel movie is having increasingly high levels of destruction that fan boys ignore. But in DC movies it's all they want to talk about.
For what its worth, when the Guardians started blowing up all the little ships, I thought, "Seriously, they're going to have Rocket kill people because he thought it would be funny to steal batteries?!" and I was honestly relieved two seconds later when they pointed out the shops were remotely piloted. But maybe that's the equivalent of saying the city is abandoned or the airport is evacuated? If so, it worked for me. Also, something something Ghostbusters.
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Old 05-08-17, 11:15 AM   #104
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What was the first giant smoky head they fought, again?
He's referring to Dormammu in Dr. Strange. The second MCU movie in a row (not the second Guardians movie)
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Old 05-08-17, 11:25 AM   #105
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After seeing early reviews and word on the web, I thought this movie was getting killed on Rottentomatoes by now, but it's holding at around 83%, not too shabby and still certified fresh. I notice that outside of the Captain America sequels none of the MCU follow-ups get the same kin of notices as their predecessors, so when the RT % drops a bit it still appears fresh even though people seem to think it's a critical failure.
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Old 05-08-17, 11:42 AM   #106
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Can someone tell me what the last scene of the movie was? I'm old and had to pee right when the Ravengers were giving Yondu his sendoff. I knew there were credit and post credit scenes so I tried to run out not know the movie was going to end right there.

Great movie. I thought the comedy and the action worked and they blended them well. I thought it lacked more Nebula, she was a highlight for me.
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By the way, my 8 year old daughter is way more perceptive than I gave her credit for. Immediately after Yondu talks Rocket into letting him go after Peter, she turns to me and says "Is Yondu gonna die?"

I just kinda shushed her and told her to watch, but it kinda shocked me that she figured out where it was going that quickly.
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Can someone tell me what the last scene of the movie was? I'm old and had to pee right when the Ravengers were giving Yondu his sendoff. I knew there were credit and post credit scenes so I tried to run out not know the movie was going to end right there.

Great movie. I thought the comedy and the action worked and they blended them well. I thought it lacked more Nebula, she was a highlight for me.
Yondu's funeral was the last scene of the movie before the credits. Peter gives Kraglin Yondu's arrow. The very first post credits sequence (after only "Guardians of the Galaxy Will Return") was Kraglin practicing with the arrow and accidentally shooting Drax in the neck.
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I'm a sucker for the MCU movies, and this one was no exception. I thought it was great. A good blend of action and humor; I thought the plot was fun, the character's were appropriately fleshed out, and the relationships expanded logically from the first movie. I love how each of the Marvel franchises has its own voice, and this one did a great job of recapturing the Guardians voice from volume 1.

In terms of damage porn, it's been a while since I've seen either Age of Ultron or Man of Steel, but my recollection -- and the reason I'm OK with the former but not the latter -- is that we see the Avengers making a genuine effort to save people and we don't really see any such thing in the DCU movies. That's true of both the Battle of New York and the Battle of Sokovia. Hell, look at how Quicksilver died -- saving Hawkeye and a civilian, as Hawkeye was about to lay down his own life to protect the civilian. When Zod attacks Metropolis and when Doomsday attacks Gotham or Metropolis or wherever the hell that scene took place, do we see any acknowledgment of civilians or effort to save them?
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Didn't they go out of their way to say the fight with Doomsday was happening in an unpopulated part of town?
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But it was still an entire planet. It doesn't ridiculous to have a superhero movie in which the primary villain is a planet just so they could say they blew up a planet? It would be just as dumb if Mogo was blown up.
You don't seem to grasp that Ego is the planet. The planet wasn't populated by anybody other than Ego who again is literally the planet and Mantis who the Guardians took with them. No one was killed besides Ego who is the villain. The planet blew up but it was the villain. If it was populated with innocent people I could see your point but it wasn't. Again you seem to be making an argument about something that isn't there.

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You mean like how in Age of Ultron two cities got destroyed which led to that dumbass villain in Civil War? It's even more ridiculous when people criticize it since Superman was just one person and The Avengers were six people so of course it would be hard for him to save people.
Not saying Superman had to save everyone but from what was shown he barely gave two shits about the destruction and was focused only on Zod. At least with Age of Ultron they made the attempt to show that the heroes were trying to protect the innocent. Obviously they couldn't save everyone but some effort was made.

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Not really. People were criticizing the wanton destruction in MOS as just being done as being excessive and being done for no purpose. But an entire planet being blown up is A OK and not excessive at all since they say its a bad planet.
Totally different situations given that the area of Metropolis Superman and Zod were fighting in was clearly a heavily populated area whereas in this film we know that Ego is the planet and it's explained that it's nothing actually inhabited.

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Seriously? This might be one of the most hilarious statements ever on this board considering who is saying it. And I'm not trying to defend the DC movies. I just find it funny how each Marvel movie is having increasingly high levels of destruction that fan boys ignore. But in DC movies it's all they want to talk about.
It comes off like you're trying to find a non argument to use against Marvel in this instance to prop up DC.
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In terms of damage porn, it's been a while since I've seen either Age of Ultron or Man of Steel, but my recollection -- and the reason I'm OK with the former but not the latter -- is that we see the Avengers making a genuine effort to save people and we don't really see any such thing in the DCU movies. That's true of both the Battle of New York and the Battle of Sokovia. Hell, look at how Quicksilver died -- saving Hawkeye and a civilian, as Hawkeye was about to lay down his own life to protect the civilian.
Not only that but, unlike the destruction in Metropolis, the destruction in Sokovia was not caused by careless actions of the Avengers. It was the direct result of Ultron attempting to create a global extinction event. If anything, the Avengers PREVENTED more deaths (as in, all life on the planet) by their actions. But apparently that point was lost on everyone else in that cinematic universe, based on the silly Sokovia Accords.

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It comes off like you're trying to find a non argument to use against Marvel in this instance to prop up DC.
I think this might be the crux of the argument. Unfortunately, there are times when fanboys cannot be reasoned with.

Back to the movie, I loved it . Every minute of it. I enjoyed it even more the second time (although the first time was in 3D, and this movie has some of the best 3D effects I've ever seen, such as the entire opening scene, and the scene of the arrow taking out TaserFace's mutinous crew). And while I won't disagree that it was courageous of them to kill off a major, much-loved character, I'm still mad about it. I got to meet Michael Rooker at Salt Lake Comic Con last year, and he is a really, really cool guy. I was looking forward to a lot more Yondu.

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Seriously? This might be one of the most hilarious statements ever on this board considering who is saying it. And I'm not trying to defend the DC movies. I just find it funny how each Marvel movie is having increasingly high levels of destruction that fan boys ignore. But in DC movies it's all they want to talk about.
We know. But they continue to act like there is no double standard. I think if DC ever gets their shit together and puts out films the THEY like....the mass destruction/death won't matter.

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Supes kinda had his hands full while that shit was going down and he didn't have a team of superheroes at that point to lend a hand.
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Not only that but, unlike the destruction in Metropolis, the destruction in Sokovia was not caused by careless actions of the Avengers. It was the direct result of Ultron attempting to create a global extinction event. If anything, the Avengers PREVENTED more deaths (as in, all life on the planet) by their actions. But apparently that point was lost on everyone else in that cinematic universe, based on the silly Sokovia Accords.
But then Ultron was essentially created by Tony Stark, so they're still somewhat responsible, however indirectly.
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LMAO???? Robin2099 is a serious DC fanboy. Not only does he gets his facts wrong, but he complains about people bringing up destruction in DC movies when he is the first one bringing destruction to the table in this thread. Hilarious. His writing is so manic i am picturing something akin to the Tasmanian Devil typing whilst jacking off to Batman v Superman and nodding appreciatively at every line saying the area is clear of citizens... before then exploding.

Seriously, if what you took away from this movie is that they fought a smoke face and destroyed a planet so its way worse than DC then my suggestion is don't bother going to see Marvel movies period. They aint for you. Stick with dour and insipid DC movies.
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I can't believe there's still the argument about destruction in the DC movies versus Marvel from people who can't see the difference in situations and portrayal of both. The fact that Ego from this movie is being used in any comparison seems to indicate a gross misunderstanding of the reasons why people didn't like what happened at the end of Man of Steel versus the situations in the Marvel movies. Yikes.
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Sweet fucking Christ - all Ego was was a big bad guy. They didn't blow up an inhabited planet ala the Death Star.

The difference between destruction porn in the Avengers has already been pointed out - they were doing their best to get civilians out of the way of their fights. Before Iron Man brought a building down on the Hulk, he not only scanned it for people but BOUGHT it.

Meanwhile, over in Metropolis, Superman seems to be looking for buildings just to throw Zod through them. There was zero time spent addressing what's happening on the ground below until BvS, and that actually confirms that yeah, Superman killed a bunch of people because he didn't care about what kind of destruction he was bringing. It was a central plot point for the movie.

In the Donner films, Superman showed a lot more consideration for the populace, so it's not like it's unprecedented for him to fight in a city AND care about the people in it.
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I thought this was fantastic and I honestly don't get the people saying it sucked but whatever. The whole audience was laughing thoughout and clapped at the end. I thought it was as good as the first albeit slightly different in tone with more laughs but also more emotional beats.
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His writing is so manic i am picturing something akin to the Tasmanian Devil typing whilst jacking off to Batman v Superman and nodding appreciatively at every line saying the area is clear of citizens... before then exploding.
I'm picturing a grown man dressed as Robin, sitting at his computer feverishly typing away his diatribe.
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Supes kinda had his hands full while that shit was going down and he didn't have a team of superheroes at that point to lend a hand.
Then take that shit outside. No reason Supes couldn't lead Zod out in space where no one could get hurt.
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just got out. very fun. pure fun. a lot of humor in this one, i mean a lot. don't think Baby Groot was a hindrance at all. i loved him and Rooker the most. great stuff all-around in this one. more humor, more heart than first, but still not as fresh or inventive. still very enjoyable and i look forward to the 3D Bluray.



oh and those post-credit sequences were shit, pure shit. i cared about not one of them and it tantalized nothing...
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and i saw some great trailers from all studios, well, mostly Disney, but saw Wonder Woman, Star Wars 8, Thor 3, Spider-Man, and maybe 1 or 2 others i forgot...
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Two other things:
1. What was the point of the Stallone, Rhames, Yeoh cameos? Don't understand why the last 2 were shown at all and Stallone had so little to do.

2. Did anyone see in the actual credit scroll @ end, that some crew names changed from "I am Groot"? Didn't know if that was just an inside joke thing or if it was indeed for audience...
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