X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
06-13-19, 09:37 AM
#426
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
considering that audiences are now used to stories spanning multiple films, why did Fox choose to once again compress the Dark Phoenix saga into one film?
06-13-19, 10:01 AM
#427
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I highly doubt Lawrence was going to come back after this one, not sure about McAvoy and Fassbender, so even without Sony being bought out I'm not sure how feasible it would have been to extend this franchise to another three films or whatever without their biggest stars instead of just rebooting like always. Plus they're apparently married to the idea of skipping a decade each time so they would be super old (in universe) by the time the third film came out.
06-13-19, 11:34 AM
#428
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I highly doubt Lawrence was going to come back after this one, not sure about McAvoy and Fassbender, so even without Sony being bought out I'm not sure how feasible it would have been to extend this franchise to another three films or whatever without their biggest stars instead of just rebooting like always. Plus they're apparently married to the idea of skipping a decade each time so they would be super old (in universe) by the time the third film came out.
But if after DOFP they knew they only had a couple more films with their OG First Class cast, they should have chosen their next two storylines more carefully.
Or something crazy like s NEW story not adapted from the comics. It worked for FC right?
06-13-19, 12:45 PM
#429
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I sometimes hate how the business side of film making works. Just because J Law became an A-lister, they made Mystique into a good guy and have her being the star of X-Men. And she’s not even in makeup. Wasn’t that part of her original character? That she refused to hide the fact that she was a mutant?
But if after DOFP they knew they only had a couple more films with their OG First Class cast, they should have chosen their next two storylines more carefully.
Or something crazy like s NEW story not adapted from the comics. It worked for FC right?
https://io9.gizmodo.com/fox-wanting-...ass-1835148286
Execs read his treatment of Days of Future Past, which is what he wanted to be the finale of his trilogy, and said, heck, let's do that one next. And it wasn't bad necessarily but it left the series with nowhere to go.
06-14-19, 12:03 AM
#430
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Not sure if this was posted earlier, but Tye Sheridan (Cyclops) described the original ending on a podcast.
https://movieweb.com/dark-phoenix-or...el-connection/
I hadn't been keeping track of the pre-buyout legalities, but I guess both Fox and Disney had a right to use the Skrulls (though I seem to recall Fox blocked them from being used in the first Avengers movie). I just assume Fox was trying to beat Disney to the punch by including a version of them in Dark Phoenix once they heard about the plan for Captain Marvel. I mean, remember how Quicksilver was added to DoFP after Whedon announced he intended to utilize the character in Age of Ultron?
Anyway, it appears the seven month delay and new ending was to not step on Marvel Studios toes once negotiations for the Fox buyout heated up. They also made damn sure Captain Marvel was given a wide berth before dropping this turkey into cinemas.
https://movieweb.com/dark-phoenix-or...el-connection/
"It's really hard for me to remember what the ending of this movie is. [laughs] Originally, it was scripted that Charles and Scott go to the U.N. because, man, I'm totally going to mess this up, they go to the U.N. because they're going to try to tell the President that, 'Hey, we're under attack by aliens, and they've now captured Jean Grey.' Or, you know, whatever it is that we're going to tell him. And then Jean comes down in the front of the U.N., and causes... there is this huge battle between the guards at the U.N. and Jean Grey, and all the guards turn out to be Skrulls. And then Jean and Scott are, Scott is fighting Skrulls in the fountain. He gets thrown into the fountain in front of the U.N. And then Jean comes down and basically fights all of the Skrulls off, and then blasts back off into space. [She] basically says goodbye to Scott and Charles. And then it's all over, I guess."
Anyway, it appears the seven month delay and new ending was to not step on Marvel Studios toes once negotiations for the Fox buyout heated up. They also made damn sure Captain Marvel was given a wide berth before dropping this turkey into cinemas.
Last edited by joe_b; 06-14-19 at 12:12 AM.
06-14-19, 10:13 AM
#431
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Quicksilver is one of the few GREAT things about the latest x-men movies. at least they got that right (haven't seen Dark Phoenix yet)
Weird news about the skrulls and x-men - that would have been even more lame. I always associate them with FF, never with X-men.
Weird news about the skrulls and x-men - that would have been even more lame. I always associate them with FF, never with X-men.
06-14-19, 11:09 AM
#432
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Weren't the Skrulls part of the original Dark Phoenix story?
06-14-19, 11:10 AM
#433
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
It also explains why there was all this talk about how the endings were too similar if they were really going to use the skrulls.
06-14-19, 11:14 AM
#434
06-15-19, 05:31 PM
#435
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
https://geektyrant.com/news/marvels-...tory-breakdown
^ This was pretty cool.
The Hellfire subplot just got weird and confusing but overall, this is the story I'd like to see on the big screen.
^ This was pretty cool.
The Hellfire subplot just got weird and confusing but overall, this is the story I'd like to see on the big screen.
06-16-19, 12:18 AM
#436
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Oh the feels just reliving the actual story even via a short web animation. Back in the day it was one of the few comics that actually got collected and I remember reading it over and over (my mom and I collected a lot of comics but they were basically read and put in huge paper bags without boards or anything, so I rarely was organized enough to reread stuff in order. the tpb made it much much easier). Sad that it totally excised Kitty from the storyline, because her point of view was actually crucial in at least adapting the reader to the storyline.
06-17-19, 06:37 PM
#437
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I believe they were briefly shown reacting to the destruction of D'Bari, and that Kree and Skrull representatives were present when Lilandra passed judgement on Phoenix. I don't remember if the Skrulls caused any shenanigans during the epic battle on the moon or not.
But it has been a long time since I read it..
But it has been a long time since I read it..
06-18-19, 12:27 PM
#438
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Ouch, This film just set a record for comic book movies.... for biggest second week drop of all time.
After opening with $33 million, the film dropped a massive 72.6 percent in its second weekend, earning just $9 million.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/06...jHl8mJh4MZjA2E
After opening with $33 million, the film dropped a massive 72.6 percent in its second weekend, earning just $9 million.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/06...jHl8mJh4MZjA2E
06-18-19, 12:47 PM
#439
DVD Talk Legend
Thread Starter
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Ouch, This film just set a record for comic book movies.... for biggest second week drop of all time.
After opening with $33 million, the film dropped a massive 72.6 percent in its second weekend, earning just $9 million.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/06...jHl8mJh4MZjA2E
After opening with $33 million, the film dropped a massive 72.6 percent in its second weekend, earning just $9 million.
https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/06...jHl8mJh4MZjA2E
