X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
05-11-19, 04:17 PM
#353
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Looking at that poster again I realize between the two sets of casts (original and First Class) they've only managed to add a single decent character(Quicksilver) to the core cast. Seems like a missed opportunity a dozen films in, simply re-using younger versions of the same characters.
05-11-19, 10:22 PM
#354
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I really, really don't like the actress playing Jean (she does not fit the part at all). To me, this looks like a minor trainwreck.
It's kind of depressing, because I love the X-Men movies.
It's kind of depressing, because I love the X-Men movies.
05-14-19, 03:05 PM
#355
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Got my tickets to the AMC Opening Night Imax Fan Event Thursday 6/6 @ 6 PM. 
They include a commemorative keychain with purchase.
They include a commemorative keychain with purchase.
05-14-19, 04:15 PM
#356
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I said it before, but the end scene of the trailer is basically a major trainwreck, not a minor one...
06-05-19, 03:33 AM
#357
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Reviews are dropping and it’s at a painful 17% on rotten tomatoes. Skipping this in theatres myself...
06-05-19, 06:06 AM
#358
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Yikes those reviews are painful:
"Dark Phoenix is yet another underwhelming entry in the X-Men franchise as the series ends on a low note."
"poorly written nonsense cartoon."
"a joyless addition to the long-running "X-Men" franchise"
"A disappointing end."
"It's just so lazy in every aspect of its storytelling and filmmaking you wonder if anyone but Kinberg even gives a [crap] anymore."
"At least Turner's trying, which can't be said for some of the other members of the cast. Jennifer Lawrence is all but checking her watch during her scenes as Mystique."
"Instead of ending with a thunderous applause, it all ends with a shrug of indifference."
"A fundamentally flawed and patchy mess, wrapped in superficial layers of dark grittiness."
"It's a tedious slog of incoherent superhero nonsense."
What a great idea, hand a $200 million movie to a hack screenwriter!
"Dark Phoenix is yet another underwhelming entry in the X-Men franchise as the series ends on a low note."
"poorly written nonsense cartoon."
"a joyless addition to the long-running "X-Men" franchise"
"A disappointing end."
"It's just so lazy in every aspect of its storytelling and filmmaking you wonder if anyone but Kinberg even gives a [crap] anymore."
"At least Turner's trying, which can't be said for some of the other members of the cast. Jennifer Lawrence is all but checking her watch during her scenes as Mystique."
"Instead of ending with a thunderous applause, it all ends with a shrug of indifference."
"A fundamentally flawed and patchy mess, wrapped in superficial layers of dark grittiness."
"It's a tedious slog of incoherent superhero nonsense."
What a great idea, hand a $200 million movie to a hack screenwriter!
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06-05-19, 08:10 AM
#359
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I'm sure Marvel/Disney will give this story a third try and get it right. You can't tell this story in one movie. There are so many things involved in the original material.
06-05-19, 09:48 AM
#360
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Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Super disappointing to see the score on RT (19% and dropping...). I'll still check it out though.
06-05-19, 10:57 AM
#361
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Yeah, I don’t get why they try to tell this story in one movie. For one, you need to care about Jean. She was introduced just a movie ago as a throwaway character. This movie was never going to work. It’d have to be a three hour movie minimum, but that’s even pushing it. Should have been two movies. Oh well, not surprised by the poor reception.
06-05-19, 11:10 AM
#362
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Yeah, I don’t get why they try to tell this story in one movie. For one, you need to care about Jean. She was introduced just a movie ago as a throwaway character. This movie was never going to work. It’d have to be a three hour movie minimum, but that’s even pushing it. Should have been two movies. Oh well, not surprised by the poor reception.
Did the article get posted here where the director talked about changing the ending from a space battle to the train because it was "too similar" to another superhero movie? This thing has been a wreck for some time.
06-05-19, 12:15 PM
#363
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Yeah, I don’t get why they try to tell this story in one movie. For one, you need to care about Jean. She was introduced just a movie ago as a throwaway character. This movie was never going to work. It’d have to be a three hour movie minimum, but that’s even pushing it. Should have been two movies. Oh well, not surprised by the poor reception.
06-05-19, 01:01 PM
#364
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
06-05-19, 01:09 PM
#366
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Wait...what, the culmination of the Dark Phoenix storyline takes place....wait for it, on an alien planet in space. Someone needs to put up the Picard facepalm meme, or maybe saying I am SMH is appropriate.
The trailer I have scene a few times in the past several weeks actually looked okay but it sounds like this movie is a mess, and not even a hot one at that, sigh.
I have to say that as much as people fawn over the Dark Phoenix storyline it is the Brood storyline that should have made it to the big screen. The Brood or Giger’s Aliens...which would you prefer to encounter, those are some scary as heck creatures.
ETA: Fuji, I know that you and others are aware of the Dark Phoenix storyline as I was just making fun of the idea of transplanting an emotional scene in space to a train crash scene on earth.
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06-05-19, 01:30 PM
#367
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Wait...what, the culmination of the Dark Phoenix storyline takes place....wait for it, on an alien planet in space. Someone needs to put up the Picard facepalm meme, or maybe saying I am SMH is appropriate.
The trailer I have scene a few times in the past several weeks actually looked okay but it sounds like this movie is a mess, and not even a hot one at that, sigh.
I have to say that as much as people fawn over the Dark Phoenix storyline it is the Brood storyline that should have made it to the big screen. The Brood or Giger’s Aliens...which would you prefer to encounter, those are some scary as heck creatures.
ETA: Fuji, I know that you and others are aware of the Dark Phoenix storyline as I was just making fun of the idea of transplanting an emotional scene in space to a train crash scene on earth.
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/x-men-da...114022281.html
I mean, sure, if they did a whole brood scene and then got sued by Fox or something... oh wait, they are Fox. So stupid. I'm pretty sure other movies like Solo have train scenes so I'm surprised they didn't reshoot again to move it to a boat.
06-05-19, 01:54 PM
#368
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
The 58% rating of The Last Stand (which has the same basic Phoenix storyline) is looking mighty fine at this point, which is rather amusing.
I want to know why the Fox execs decided to bet all their chips on Sophie Turner, especially based on her performance in Apocalypse. Now I will say she is very good on Game of Thrones, but her American accent was hella shaky in the last X-Men movie (and doesn't sound that much better here based on the trailers), and she wasn't even in it that much to justify giving her a second movie based heavily around her, using one of the biggest storylines from the comics.
I want to know why the Fox execs decided to bet all their chips on Sophie Turner, especially based on her performance in Apocalypse. Now I will say she is very good on Game of Thrones, but her American accent was hella shaky in the last X-Men movie (and doesn't sound that much better here based on the trailers), and she wasn't even in it that much to justify giving her a second movie based heavily around her, using one of the biggest storylines from the comics.
06-05-19, 02:01 PM
#369
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
If you think about X-men mythos, they blew their wad too early with their second movie (which Vaughn recently talked about), then escalated in the third. I'm not sure where else they could have gone besides the classic Dark Phoenix story.
06-05-19, 03:18 PM
#370
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
For all the talk of the superhero movie golden age, there’s two things that just can’t be done right - Dark Phoenix and Dr Doom.
06-05-19, 03:24 PM
#371
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
06-05-19, 03:30 PM
#372
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
It's kind of weird to me that the Rotten Tomatoes score is that low. Not that I expected this to review incredibly well or anything, but the reviews I've watched seem to indicate that it's more in the middle than anything. Not great but not complete trash either. I personally don't expect much out of this, and I don't imagine most people really did as it's seemed for a long time that it was just coming out since it was so far along in production. I'll still see it this weekend just for curiosity.
06-05-19, 03:31 PM
#373
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
They could have gone smaller, like The Wolverine or Logan. A more personal movie with a lower budget to help fans bond with this version of these characters, setting up a much better Dark Phoenix movie.
06-05-19, 03:33 PM
#374
DVD Talk Hero
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
I don't think they could have once they set the trilogy the way they did. If they expanded after First Class a bit slower like Vaughn had wanted, then yeah they could have done that. But you basically threw away most of the kids in First Class, then you brought in Wolverine and the older actors to chew the scenery, then Apocalypse shenanigans, I'm not sure how you take a giant step back from that and go to character development.
06-05-19, 04:03 PM
#375
DVD Talk Legend
Re: X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019, D: Kinberg) S: McAvoy, Fassbender, Lawrence, Turner, Hoult
Treat him like amoral Iron Man.