View Poll Results: The Shining should have won...
Best Picture
2
50.00%
Best Director
3
75.00%
Best Actor (Jack Nicholson)
2
50.00%
Best Actress (Shelley Duvall)
0
0%
Best Supporting Actor (Danny Lloyd)
0
0%
Best Supporting Actor (Scatman Crothers)
1
25.00%
Best Adapted Screenplay
1
25.00%
Best Original Song Score or Adaptation Score
2
50.00%
Best Sound Editing
2
50.00%
Best Sound Mixing
2
50.00%
Best Art Direction
3
75.00%
Best Cinematography
4
100.00%
Best Costume Design
0
0%
Best Film Editing
2
50.00%
Best Visual Effects
0
0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 4. You may not vote on this poll
The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
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The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
The Shining is now regarded as one of the greatest horror films ever made, but wasn't upon release.
In what Oscar categories do you think The Shining should have won? Multiple voting options.
For those in need to weigh in and compare, here are all the 1980 Oscar nominees and winners:
Best Picture:
Ordinary People – Ronald L. Schwary (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Bernard Schwartz
The Elephant Man – Jonathan Sanger
Raging Bull – Robert Chartoff, Irwin Winkler
Tess – Claude Berri
Best Director:
Robert Redford – Ordinary People (Won)
David Lynch – The Elephant Man
Martin Scorsese – Raging Bull
Richard Rush – The Stunt Man
Roman Polanski – Tess
Best Actor:
Robert De Niro – Raging Bull as Jake LaMotta (Won)
Robert Duvall – The Great Santini as Lt. Col. Wilbur "Bull" Meechum
John Hurt – The Elephant Man as Joseph Merrick
Jack Lemmon – Tribute as Scottie Templeton
Peter O'Toole – The Stunt Man as Eli Cross
Best Actress:
Sissy Spacek – Coal Miner's Daughter as Loretta Lynn (Won)
Ellen Burstyn – Resurrection as Edna Mae McCauley
Goldie Hawn – Private Benjamin as Judy Benjamin
Mary Tyler Moore – Ordinary People as Beth Jarrett
Gena Rowlands – Gloria as Gloria Swenson
Best Supporting Actor:
Timothy Hutton – Ordinary People as Conrad Jarrett (Won)
Judd Hirsch – Ordinary People as Dr. Tyrone C. Berger
Michael O'Keefe – The Great Santini as Ben
Joe Pesci – Raging Bull as Joey LaMotta
Jason Robards – Melvin and Howard as Howard Hughes
Best Adapted Screenplay:
Ordinary People – Alvin Sargent (Won)
Breaker Morant – Jonathan Hardy, David Stevens and Bruce Beresford
Coal Miner's Daughter – Tom Rickman
The Elephant Man – Christopher De Vore, Eric Bergren and David Lynch
The Stunt Man – Screenplay by Lawrence B. Marcus; Adaptation by Richard Rush
Best Film Editing:
Raging Bull – Thelma Schoonmaker (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Arthur Schmidt
The Competition – David Blewitt
The Elephant Man – Anne V. Coates
Fame – Gerry Hambling
Best Original Song Score or Adaptation Score:
Fame – Michael Gore (Won)
Altered States – John Corigliano
The Elephant Man – John Morris
The Empire Strikes Back – John Williams
Tess – Philippe Sarde
Best Art Direction:
Tess – Art Direction and Set Decoration: Pierre Guffroy and Jack Stephens (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Art Direction: John W. Corso; Set Decoration: John M. Dwyer
The Elephant Man – Art Direction: Stuart Craig and Bob Cartwright; Set Decoration: Hugh Scaife
The Empire Strikes Back – Art Direction: Norman Reynolds, Leslie Dilley, Harry Lange and Alan Tomkins; Set Decoration: Michael Ford
Kagemusha – Art Direction and Set Decoration: Yoshirō Muraki
Best Cinematography:
Tess – Geoffrey Unsworth and Ghislain Cloquet (Won)
The Blue Lagoon – Nestor Almendros
Coal Miner's Daughter – Ralf D. Bode
The Formula – James Crabe
Raging Bull – Michael Chapman
Best Costume Design:
Tess – Anthony Powell (Won)
The Elephant Man – Patricia Norris
My Brilliant Career – Anna Senior
Somewhere in Time – Jean-Pierre Dorleac
When Time Ran Out – Paul Zastupnevich
Best Sound:
The Empire Strikes Back – Bill Varney, Steve Maslow, Gregg Landaker and Peter Sutton (Won)
Altered States – Arthur Piantadosi, Les Fresholtz, Michael Minkler and Willie D. Burton
Coal Miner's Daughter – Richard Portman, Roger Heman and James R. Alexander
Fame – Michael J. Kohut, Aaron Rochin, Jay M. Harding and Christopher Newman
Raging Bull – Donald O. Mitchell, Bill Nicholson, David J. Kimball and Les Lazarowitz
Best Visual Effects:
No Nominees that year
It was the only one of Kubrick's last nine films to receive no nominations at all from either the Oscars or Golden Globes, but was nominated for a pair of Razzie Awards, including Worst Director and Worst Actress (Duvall), in the first year that award was given.
For those in need to weigh in and compare, here are all the 1980 Oscar nominees and winners:
Best Picture:
Ordinary People – Ronald L. Schwary (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Bernard Schwartz
The Elephant Man – Jonathan Sanger
Raging Bull – Robert Chartoff, Irwin Winkler
Tess – Claude Berri
Best Director:
Robert Redford – Ordinary People (Won)
David Lynch – The Elephant Man
Martin Scorsese – Raging Bull
Richard Rush – The Stunt Man
Roman Polanski – Tess
Best Actor:
Robert De Niro – Raging Bull as Jake LaMotta (Won)
Robert Duvall – The Great Santini as Lt. Col. Wilbur "Bull" Meechum
John Hurt – The Elephant Man as Joseph Merrick
Jack Lemmon – Tribute as Scottie Templeton
Peter O'Toole – The Stunt Man as Eli Cross
Best Actress:
Sissy Spacek – Coal Miner's Daughter as Loretta Lynn (Won)
Ellen Burstyn – Resurrection as Edna Mae McCauley
Goldie Hawn – Private Benjamin as Judy Benjamin
Mary Tyler Moore – Ordinary People as Beth Jarrett
Gena Rowlands – Gloria as Gloria Swenson
Best Supporting Actor:
Timothy Hutton – Ordinary People as Conrad Jarrett (Won)
Judd Hirsch – Ordinary People as Dr. Tyrone C. Berger
Michael O'Keefe – The Great Santini as Ben
Joe Pesci – Raging Bull as Joey LaMotta
Jason Robards – Melvin and Howard as Howard Hughes
Best Adapted Screenplay:
Ordinary People – Alvin Sargent (Won)
Breaker Morant – Jonathan Hardy, David Stevens and Bruce Beresford
Coal Miner's Daughter – Tom Rickman
The Elephant Man – Christopher De Vore, Eric Bergren and David Lynch
The Stunt Man – Screenplay by Lawrence B. Marcus; Adaptation by Richard Rush
Best Film Editing:
Raging Bull – Thelma Schoonmaker (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Arthur Schmidt
The Competition – David Blewitt
The Elephant Man – Anne V. Coates
Fame – Gerry Hambling
Best Original Song Score or Adaptation Score:
Fame – Michael Gore (Won)
Altered States – John Corigliano
The Elephant Man – John Morris
The Empire Strikes Back – John Williams
Tess – Philippe Sarde
Best Art Direction:
Tess – Art Direction and Set Decoration: Pierre Guffroy and Jack Stephens (Won)
Coal Miner's Daughter – Art Direction: John W. Corso; Set Decoration: John M. Dwyer
The Elephant Man – Art Direction: Stuart Craig and Bob Cartwright; Set Decoration: Hugh Scaife
The Empire Strikes Back – Art Direction: Norman Reynolds, Leslie Dilley, Harry Lange and Alan Tomkins; Set Decoration: Michael Ford
Kagemusha – Art Direction and Set Decoration: Yoshirō Muraki
Best Cinematography:
Tess – Geoffrey Unsworth and Ghislain Cloquet (Won)
The Blue Lagoon – Nestor Almendros
Coal Miner's Daughter – Ralf D. Bode
The Formula – James Crabe
Raging Bull – Michael Chapman
Best Costume Design:
Tess – Anthony Powell (Won)
The Elephant Man – Patricia Norris
My Brilliant Career – Anna Senior
Somewhere in Time – Jean-Pierre Dorleac
When Time Ran Out – Paul Zastupnevich
Best Sound:
The Empire Strikes Back – Bill Varney, Steve Maslow, Gregg Landaker and Peter Sutton (Won)
Altered States – Arthur Piantadosi, Les Fresholtz, Michael Minkler and Willie D. Burton
Coal Miner's Daughter – Richard Portman, Roger Heman and James R. Alexander
Fame – Michael J. Kohut, Aaron Rochin, Jay M. Harding and Christopher Newman
Raging Bull – Donald O. Mitchell, Bill Nicholson, David J. Kimball and Les Lazarowitz
Best Visual Effects:
No Nominees that year
Last edited by hbilly; 09-30-16 at 10:04 AM.
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
Am I weighing the categories against the real nominees that year? Can you put up that list?
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
Here are the nominees and winners from the 53rd Academy Awards (held March 31st, 1981):
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I love The Shining and just about every Kubrick film, but IMO Raging Bull got the shaft that year by only winning best actor and editing.
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
I love the Shining. It's one of my favorites. In a just world it would have been recognized for the brilliant film that it is right away. But lining it up with Raging Bull in those categories I have to give Raging Bull the win. For instance, the use of sound in the Shining is brilliant, but I think Raging Bull still beats it.
Last edited by Mabuse; 09-30-16 at 02:55 PM.
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
It probably should have gotten some nominations (especially for Cinematography and Art Direction), but NO WAY is it a better film, or better directed or acted than Raging Bull. If there were a film that got hosed that night in 1981, it was Raging Bull.
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I don't care what Oscars THE SHINING did or didn't get. I still can't believe THE STUNT MAN got any noms. That's one of the most pretentious pieces of nonsense I've ever seen. And I see enough unpretentious nonsense to know the difference.
The best film of 1980 remains:
The best film of 1980 remains:
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
I don't care what Oscars THE SHINING did or didn't get. I still can't believe THE STUNT MAN got any noms. That's one of the most pretentious pieces of nonsense I've ever seen. And I see enough unpretentious nonsense to know the difference.
The best film of 1980 remains:
The best film of 1980 remains:
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
It probably didn't even deserve to make the best director category that year. There are four nominees I see that clearly outrank it.
Hollywood really doesn't like awarding repeat winners for the big categories unless you are one of the lucky few in their inner circle. Kubrick never cared much about playing the game in Hollywood.
Hollywood really doesn't like awarding repeat winners for the big categories unless you are one of the lucky few in their inner circle. Kubrick never cared much about playing the game in Hollywood.
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
Oh and worst adaptation? Seriously? How many of his adapted stories into movies have you seen? There are tonnes of piss poor movies based on half decent books. Plenty of piss poor movies based on piss poor books as well. King usually has good ideas but the end results can be very hit and miss.
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I think pretty much everyone thinks it's one of the greatest horror movies of all time. Of course the book snobs disagree.
Oh and worst adaptation? Seriously? How many of his adapted stories into movies have you seen? There are tonnes of piss poor movies based on half decent books. Plenty of piss poor movies based on piss poor books as well. King usually has good ideas but the end results can be very hit and miss.
Oh and worst adaptation? Seriously? How many of his adapted stories into movies have you seen? There are tonnes of piss poor movies based on half decent books. Plenty of piss poor movies based on piss poor books as well. King usually has good ideas but the end results can be very hit and miss.
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Re: The Shunned: The Shining (1980) Oscar Poll
Where's the "None of the Above" option in the poll? I like The Shining, but to claim it should have won major Oscars given what did win that year is a bit of revisionist history. It's not THAT good.