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Old 02-22-18, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
It would open the door for something different. My hope was that he falls for Swann, but she has been put in the position to take over Spectre with Bond at her side by Mr. White. She is a psychologist after all and would be playing all of this out perfectly.
It was all a dream...
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Originally Posted by Brack
To be honest, the Bond movies are all up and down, even with Connery.
That’s true. For a franchise that’s lasted as long as it has I really don’t have a ton of films from it that I love and want to revisit often. My favorites are probably not all considered classics but just personal favorites and I also don’t like one of the favorite Bond actors like most do (my favorite is Dalton). I like Goldfinger, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Living Daylights, License to Kill, Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Casino Royale. I could probably pick a few more if I was rounding up to a top ten but those are the ones I like the most.

Never hated Quantum of Solace, it was fine, but a disappointment since it was the follow up to Casino Royale.
I really don’t mind it all that much either. It’s a definite step down from its predecessor but not awful. Also not that it speaks to the quality of the film but it has a pretty fun video game based off it.
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Originally Posted by James T. Kirk
I thought Skyfall was more fun than Casino Royale but, overall, I think Casino Royale is the better film. But I hated Quantum of Solace too.

Which of the Connery movies is your favourite? Mine's Goldfinger.
Favorite Connery Bond movie would be a close tie between Goldfinger and From Russia With Love...although I have a soft spot for You Only Live Twice, just given how cheesy a lot of it is...
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I still stand by the notion that QoS is the epilogue to Casino Royale.
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I actually like the idea of a new fresh take script on Bond.

Purvis and Wade have written many Bond movies already and I think it's time for a new voice. Hopefully John Hodge's script is good that Boyle will sign on officially.

But yeah starting from scratch when this is supposed to come out next November is a very tight schedule. Plus, they haven't cast anyone yet aside from Craig and presumably Ralph Fiennes. Plus, you got to factor in months of pre-production and location scouting. They would be lucky to begin principal photography by next Spring at the earliest.
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
I still stand by the notion that QoS is the epilogue to Casino Royale.
That’s odd. I’ve never waited two years to buy another ticket to see another director do an epilogue that is more than 3.5x the AMPAS-defined feature length.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
That’s odd. I’ve never waited two years to buy another ticket to see another director do an epilogue that is more than 3.5x the AMPAS-defined feature length.
You could have easily ended CR with Bond recuperating at the villa with Vesper. Instead, you get a false ending and events that happen months later with the heist of the funds, the death of Vesper and the capture of Mr. White. QoS picks up right where that left off.

What other Bond films before Craig's have ended and started within hours of each other? CR and QoS are so closely tied to each other that I view both as one long movie (or a two part miniseries). Especially with CR's running time of 144 mins and QoS at a lean 106 mins.
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
I still stand by the notion that QoS is the epilogue to Casino Royale.
It isn’t?

Originally Posted by Guru Askew
That’s odd. I’ve never waited two years to buy another ticket to see another director do an epilogue that is more than 3.5x the AMPAS-defined feature length.
Huh?
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There’s more continuity between films in the Craig films. That’s it, you’re reading too much into that.

QoS is very much it’s own film. It has a different second unit director who controversially did Bourne-style shakycam action. Wildly different production design and cinematography. It has its own villain and love interests. It isn’t structured like a long 4-hour movie.

The Casino Royale elements are interesting. There isn’t really anything like them anywhere else in the series, not even the “Blofeld was behind it all” stuff in Spectre. But they account for, what, 15% of the movie? That’s being generous. The bulk of the movie is it’s own thing.
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Originally Posted by Guru Askew
There’s more continuity between films in the Craig films. That’s it, you’re reading too much into that.

QoS is very much it’s own film. It has a different second unit director who controversially did Bourne-style shakycam action. Wildly different production design and cinematography. It has its own villain and love interests. It isn’t structured like a long 4-hour movie.

The Casino Royale elements are interesting. There isn’t really anything like them anywhere else in the series, not even the “Blofeld was behind it all” stuff in Spectre. But they account for, what, 15% of the movie? That’s being generous. The bulk of the movie is it’s own thing.
QoS is a revenge movie. Although it has it's own villain and threat, Bond's primary motivation is getting even with the people who were any way involved with Vesper's death. The current villain and plot are secondary to Bond. They are interrelated so Bond is killing two birds with one stone.
Bond is on a personal mission throughout the entire movie that does not end until the he tracks down Vesper's boyfriend at the very end.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
That’s true. For a franchise that’s lasted as long as it has I really don’t have a ton of films from it that I love and want to revisit often. My favorites are probably not all considered classics but just personal favorites and I also don’t like one of the favorite Bond actors like most do (my favorite is Dalton). I like Goldfinger, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Living Daylights, License to Kill, Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Casino Royale. I could probably pick a few more if I was rounding up to a top ten but those are the ones I like the most.


I really don’t mind it all that much either. It’s a definite step down from its predecessor but not awful. Also not that it speaks to the quality of the film but it has a pretty fun video game based off it.
Dalton's my second favourite, after Craig. I'm not fond of The Man with the Golden Gun, I'm not particularly fond of The Living Daylights, but I do enjoy Tomorrow Never Dies a lot more than most. I agree with you about the rest.

My top five,

1. Casino Royale
2. Skyfall
3. Licence to Kill
4. GoldenEye
5. Goldfinger

Originally Posted by Goonies85
Favorite Connery Bond movie would be a close tie between Goldfinger and From Russia With Love...although I have a soft spot for You Only Live Twice, just given how cheesy a lot of it is...


What about your favourite Moore movie?

Originally Posted by devilshalo
You could have easily ended CR with Bond recuperating at the villa with Vesper. Instead, you get a false ending and events that happen months later with the heist of the funds, the death of Vesper and the capture of Mr. White. QoS picks up right where that left off.

What other Bond films before Craig's have ended and started within hours of each other? CR and QoS are so closely tied to each other that I view both as one long movie (or a two part miniseries). Especially with CR's running time of 144 mins and QoS at a lean 106 mins.
Not if you wanted to remain faithful to the novel.

Originally Posted by Abob Teff
It isn’t?



Huh?
That's what I thought.
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My ranking with some easy napkin-math analysis:

1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia with Love
3. Casino Royale
4. Skyfall
5. The Spy Who Loved Me
6. Goldeneye
7. Dr. No
8. Thunderball
9. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
10. Live and Let Die
11. Spectre
12. Tomorrow Never Dies
13. The World is Not Enough
14. Quantum of Solace
15. The Living Daylights
16. You Only Live Twice
17. The Man with the Golden Gun
18. For Your Eyes Only
19. Moonraker
20. Octopussy
21. Die Another Day
22. Diamonds Are Forever
23. A View to a Kill
24. License to Kill

Based on these rankings:
1. Craig: highest #3, lowest #14. 4-film average #8

2. Connery: highest #1, lowest #22. 6-film average #9

3. Brosnan: highest #6, lowest #21. 4-film average #13

4. Moore: highest #5, lowest #23. 7-film average #16

5. Dalton: highest #15, lowest #24. 2-film average #20

Judging by actor is the easiest and most-obvious way to categorize them but I’d sooner lump DAF in with LALD and TMWTGG, or Dalton’s films with Moore’s last 3 because they were all directed by the same hack and have that low-budget Cannon Films feel. That said, when I rank them and average them out like that it does align with how I’d rank the actors for the most part.
Lazenby’s peak, valley and average are all obviously the same which makes him kinda an outlier. I put OHMSS at #9 but I certainly wouldn’t have him tied with Connery or ranked above any other Bond actor for that matter. Really the only thing that could be said about Lazenby is that he wound up in a Bond film that was significantly better than his performance as Bond.

A couple other interesting observations just from looking at my list: TND and TWINE actually shook out dead-center which aligns pretty perfectly with how I see them. I’d definitely describe them as completely average and unremarkable. I also didn’t consciously rank the 4 “final films” in the last 4 slots.
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Looks like Craig got $25m to return... how fitting since it's Bond 25.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/ce...io-1202801717/
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EXCLUSIVE: Eon Productions and MGM have set distribution plans for James Bond 25. The most hotly sought after film franchise in recent memory has been won by Universal Pictures for international as well as for home entertainment, sources said. Domestic distribution will be handled by MGM and Annapurna through the joint venture they signed last year. The 25th installment of James Bond will first be released in the UK on October 25, 2019, and in the U.S. on November 8, 2019. Production begins December 3.

The deal was just closed by EON’s Michael G Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, MGM chairman of the board of directors Kevin Ulrich, MGM Motion Pictures Group president Jon Glickman and Universal Pictures chairman Donna Langley. It puts the MGM logo front and center as distributor on a Bond film for the first time in nearly two decades.

As expected, Daniel Craig is back for his fifth film as 007, and Oscar-winner Danny Boyle is now set to direct a film that his Trainspotting partner John Hodge scripted based on an idea by Boyle, as Deadline revealed back in February. MGM and Danjaq weighed several directors, but then Boyle had his great idea and said he would direct, only if his concept was the one they went with. He had Hodge write a script that pleased everybody. Search over.

The international rights had attracted just about every major studio after longtime 007 distributor Sony’s deal expired with 2015’s Spectre. Sony was in the mix, Warner Bros chased it hard as did Paramount and pretty much every other studio but perhaps Disney. While the distribution fee is expected to be on the modest side, landing the James Bond franchise is an enormous “get” for Universal and Comcast. It is among the biggest global franchises and comes at a time when those are more prized than ever, and when scale is everything. It is also important because international is where 007 traditionally earns most of its grosses.

The domestic deal through the MGM and Annapurna joint venture seemed likely when that arrangement had been announced, and Deadline revealed the 007 film was going to land that way last November. The film goes out under the MGM label. MGM also retains digital and worldwide television distribution rights. That is potentially a big boost for its EPIX premium channel.

The studios confirmed the deals to Deadline.

Wilson and Broccoli commented, “We are delighted to announce that the exceptionally talented Danny Boyle will be directing Daniel Craig in his fifth outing as James Bond in the 25th installment of the franchise. We will begin shooting Bond 25 at Pinewood Studios in December with our partners at MGM and thrilled that Universal will be our international distributor.”

“Under the leadership of Michael and Barbara, we couldn’t be more thrilled than to bring the next 007 adventure to the big screen uniting the incomparable Daniel Craig with the extraordinary vision of Danny Boyle,” said Ulrich. Glickman added, “It has been 16 years since Die Another Day was distributed by MGM and it’s incredibly gratifying to be releasing this film alongside the powerhouse team at Universal.”

“Universal is extremely proud to collaborate with Michael, Barbara and MGM on the international marketing and distribution of Bond 25,” said Langley. “The unparalleled combination of Danny’s innovative filmmaking and Daniel’s embodiment of 007 ensured we simply had to be partners in the next chapter of this iconic series.”
http://deadline.com/2018/05/james-bo...ge-1202397905/
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Very cool. Nice get for Universal. And Trust has reminded me Boyle is a Hell of a director -- with an eye for travel.
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My rankings of the Craig Bonds:


  1. Casino Royale
  2. Skyfall
  3. Spectre
  4. A machine-learning algorithm that uploads a YouTube video made up of cut-scenes from the James Bond 007: Blood Stone video game (Nintendo DS version) mixed in with outtakes from the EPK and junkets for the Bond films.
  5. The horn hits from the 007 Theme played for 36 minutes straight over the trailer for Cowboys & Aliens in a loop
  6. Quantum of Solace
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I enjoy all of the Craig Bond films. I don't get the criticism for Quantum Of Solace as it like a 90 minute extended ending of Casino Royale.
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I enjoyed QoS a lot. The Opera house sequence is badass!

My biggest let down of the Craig Bond films so far is Spectre. It just fell flat for me. Maybe I’ll have to watch it again.


I’m just waiting to hear about delays and drama on Bond 25. There’s ALWAYS delays and drama during pre-production of Bond films nowadays.
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Helena Bonham Carter tipped to bring her own brand of menace as next James Bond movie villain

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...bring-12639247
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Carter could be fun here as a Bond villain. Sure better then her in another Burton movie
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Is Waltz out as Blofeld?
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Odd, but who knows...
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Odd, but who knows...
Why? She's played a villain before and was great at it.
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Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
I enjoyed QoS a lot. The Opera house sequence is badass!

My biggest let down of the Craig Bond films so far is Spectre. It just fell flat for me. Maybe I’ll have to watch it again.


I’m just waiting to hear about delays and drama on Bond 25. There’s ALWAYS delays and drama during pre-production of Bond films nowadays.
I couldn't get into "Spectre" in the theater (way too long), but I enjoyed it more watching it a second time at home. Waltz was a disappointment for me as "Blofeld", -because he mostly plays villains, I found it the same old, same old. Also, I think Mendes has carried this linking of all the characters and story points together a bit too far.


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