Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

If you're going to argue this, then we need a clear definition of what a "semi-reboot" is. Many of the movies others are mentioning are also just continuations (sequels) and not really reboots.

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Creed - I wouldn't say it's a reboot at all. I agree it's not a sequel, but another story in Rocky's world, where he's a supporting member.

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I disagree.

A reboot can also be a simple change of direction. The only Star Wars that has existed for the last 17 years has been Anakin Skywalker and the Clone Wars. Disney killed the Clone Wars and all but abandoned that time period in an effort to effectively reboot the franchise.

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I don't see The Force Awakens as a reboot. It's a new story in the Star Wars universe and a sequel to Return of the Jedi. Disney isn't placing as much emphasis on the Prequel Trilogy but they haven't wrote it out of existence in the continuity. Frankly I don't see Creed as a true reboot either. It's still in the Rocky universe of films and is following events and characters previously known while introducing a new character.

To me a reboot is a previously existing franchise that's telling a new story with new actors. Something like Batman Begins is a good example.

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

Nope. A reboot indicates an erasing or ignoring of the previous movies. Such as Casino Royale. The previous Bond movies were in a completely different continuity - one that did not exist in Casino Royale's world.

On the other hand, Sean Connery's Bond went after revenge for Blofeld killing his (Lazenby's) wife in the previous movie. And Roger Moore's Bond visited his wife's grave (again, Lazenby was the one portraying Bond as he got married and was suddenly widowed in the same day) and it was clearly HIS wife as he had a pained, regretful look on his face as he put flowers on her grave. Timothy Dalton's Bond was still not over the death of his wife (again, referring back to Lazenby's movie) when Felix's new bride brought up the issue of Bond getting married someday (and Tracy's death was still a raw nerve for him, so much so that when Della is killed on her wedding day to Felix Bond completely loses it and goes after revege - again - regardless of losing his job, his life, or whatever the consequences were). It is clearly the same character who has gone through the same events.

Until Casino Royale.

That' a reboot. It ignores/deletes/erases the previous movies from it's cinematic universe. It's starting over by losing the history.

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

But the Op is asking about a "semi-reboot", as opposed to a "reboot"

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And that's fine - but there was also a question as to what constituted a true Reboot. A change in direction isn't a reboot. A change in actors isn't a reboot.

A semi-reboot or a soft reboot isn't really a reboot, but it is that change in direction or change in characters or actors without losing continuity.

The Pierce Brosnan era of the Bond movies could have been seen as a soft reboot. He was supposed to be the same character with the same history, but they just didn't talk about it. And then he got a new female M and a new, more empowered Moneypenny - but it was still supposed to be the same guy with the same history. Sort of. Craig's Bond in CR was totally different. None of the stuff that happened before was part of his life. He was never a spy during the Cold War. It was a fairly major change, and a RESTARTING of the whole series.

But none of this gets as complicated as the Godzilla series. It was rebooted with Godzilla 1985, and again with Godzilla 2000. But the millennium series for Big G featured no fewer than 4 reboots out of the 6 movies in that era! And they were fairly hard reboots, too!

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Thanks for all of the replies. And I apologize about any confusion by what I meant by a "semi-reboot." As others have stated, by semi-reboot I meant the start of a new series with new characters and a new direction in the story, but that also keeps a couple of the older characters and takes place in the series's already established continuity.

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In TV terms - a spinoff, more or less. ;)

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If going by this terminology than I would go with:
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek (2009)
Star Wars: Phantom Menace
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Creed
U.S. Marshals (was intended as a series but never took off)
Shaft

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

I'd argue it's the beginning of the Rey stoyline. She seeks out Luke like he seeked out Obi-Wan. Han and Leia were pretty much unessential to the storyline. The story could have proceeded if they were dead and just referenced. This is an obvious restart with the trio of Rey, Finn and the fighter pilot guy as the new heroes replacing Luke, Han and Leia.

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

None of which makes the film a "reboot". Again, your definition of that word and term is confused.

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

I think you guys need to first agree on the definition of a re-boot. To me something like Batman Begins is a true reboot. A film that proceeds with a mindset that all the previous Batman films didn't exist.

The Force Awakens was exactly the opposite. A film that proceeds with absolute awareness of a whole series of previously produced films.

Re: Sequels that are also a semi-reboot?
 

That picks up 30 years later starring new leads and villains, that also has nothing to do with the last 17 years of Star Wars. That is a semi-reboot as the title suggests and as the OP clarified. A total reboot is different and what Maz is hung up on.

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Regardless of how long after its taking place it's a sequel to events in previous films and features characters from said films. Not a reboot at all in my opinion. Semi or otherwise. New characters don't equate to a reboot.

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There really isn't such a thing as a "semi-reboot". Either something is rebooted or it's not. Just like you can't dig half a hole. Either you have a hole or you don't.

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Vacation (2015)

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There is with science fiction.

Star Trek 2009, Teriminator Genisys, and X-Men DOFP were all soft reboots of their franchises. All three used time travel to reset the continuity.

Whereas things like Zombieween, Casino Royale, and the new Robocop were complete reimaginings.

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Yes, but per the definition we're using abovethey're not reboots because they're simply continuations of what came before. Star Trek 2009 is just a parallel universe. The Prime trek adventures still happened. Just like most stories in the DC universe happened, they're really just parallel universe set in the same continuity. The post Crisis Super is now showing up in the New 52 universe, so they are all really in the same continuity. So if we're defing it as ignoring everything that came before it AND it being a complete reimagining, than it wouldn't fit as a reboot.

The 2009 movie was a prequel, a sequel, and a reboot. It was bizarre. Glad as I was to see Leonard Nimoy, I kind of watched him narrate 5 minutes of exposition and thought "Why not just reboot the franchise? Wouldn't that be easier?