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But... all MCU films are comedies. So not sure I understand the problem with that.
Yeah, that is pretty much true. No stakes at all. Didn't even have the balls to kill Rhodes.
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There is no doubt that Black Widow is one of the most interesting characters currently featured in the MCU
Really? I only thought she was popular because of the actress. Not that there's anything wrong with making a vehicle movie for a popular actress, but Black Widow as a character was always a second thought in my mind, even back in my comic book days.
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No Black Widow movie in any format. Thank you.
Why not? There’s no one forcing you to see it.

After Wonder Woman I’m amazed a BW movie wasn’t fast tracked.
Old 10-30-17, 05:35 PM
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Why not? There’s no one forcing you to see it.

After Wonder Woman I’m amazed a BW movie wasn’t fast tracked.
They already have Captain Marvel in the works, so it's not like they were desperate for a female-lead movie.
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They already have Captain Marvel in the works, so it's not like they were desperate for a female-lead movie.
Black Widow and Scarlett Johansson are both bigger names than Captain Marvel and whoever is playing Captain Marvel.

Besides, why not have multiple female led films??
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Black Widow and Scarlett Johansson are both bigger names than Captain Marvel and whoever is playing Captain Marvel.
Academy Award winner Brie Larson.
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Academy Award winner Brie Larson.
Clearly I haven’t kept up with the casting news, but I’d still say Scarlet is a bigger name than Brie.
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Academy Award winner Brie Larson.
Grab a random cross-section of maybe 40 people. Show them a picture of Scarlett Johanson and Brie Larsen and ask them to identify both.

Who do you think is gonna clean up on that one? Maybe if you got the four people who saw Room, I suppose...

Actually, show them Tommy Wiseau and Brie Larson, and Wiseau would probably take it as well.
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Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Black Widow and Scarlett Johansson are both bigger names than Captain Marvel and whoever is playing Captain Marvel.

Besides, why not have multiple female led films??
Captain Marvel is a superhero. She has superpowers, which all the leads of the Marvel films have had so far. Black Widow would be a different direction. She actually has more in common with the Marvel TV shows than the MCU films. I think Marvel feels it'd be trickier to release a "Marvel Movie" with a lead that's not a superhero.

And I'm not saying that there can't be both, I was providing an answer for why Marvel didn't "rush" to greenlight Black Widow after Wonder Woman came out. Anyway, do we really want to "rush" the Black Widow film, just to have it out there? It took Patty Jenkins near a decade to get DC onboard with her vision. What Black Widow needs is the right director with the right story and tone to come along and make a movie that seems obvious in retrospect.
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Captain Marvel is a superhero. She has superpowers, which all the leads of the Marvel films have had so far. Black Widow would be a different direction. She actually has more in common with the Marvel TV shows than the MCU films. I think Marvel feels it'd be trickier to release a "Marvel Movie" with a lead that's not a superhero.

And I'm not saying that there can't be both, I was providing an answer for why Marvel didn't "rush" to greenlight Black Widow after Wonder Woman came out. Anyway, do we really want to "rush" the Black Widow film, just to have it out there? It took Patty Jenkins near a decade to get DC onboard with her vision. What Black Widow needs is the right director with the right story and tone to come along and make a movie that seems obvious in retrospect.
My wife recently discovered Captain Marvel when she was looking for a superhero model that she could expose elementary age kids to (she works tech support at an elementary school whose theme this year is being a superhero). We watched a few Avengers Earth Mightiest, and she bought a Rosie the Riveter We Can Do It style T-shirt with Captain Marvel on it. So she is extremely excited that there is a Captain Marvel film coming out down the line.
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Ever since the first Avengers movie, I've been wanting to see a solo Black Widow movie starring Johansson. So I'm down for this. LUCY made a great place-holder in the meantime.
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum View Post
Ever since the first Avengers movie, I've been wanting to see a solo Black Widow movie starring Johansson. So I'm down for this. LUCY made a great place-holder in the meantime.
Atomic Blonde was pretty good too, and Red Sparrow looks interesting (and actually sounds similar to the Black Widow backstory).

Edit: Actually, all those movies mentioned are R-rated features, so it'd be interesting if Marvel would go for an R-rated Black Widow movie.
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Red Sparrow does look like a Black Widow movie, just you know, with Mys-cast Mystique instead of Black Widow.

(And it turns out the more Lawrence looks like Emily Browning, the hotter she is.)
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I wonder if the fiasco with the Ghost in the Shell has anything to do with the studio not wanting to launch a solo blackwidow film?
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Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum View Post
Ever since the first Avengers movie, I've been wanting to see a solo Black Widow movie starring Johansson. So I'm down for this. LUCY made a great place-holder in the meantime.
Lucy looked to me like the feature length version of the hallways scene in Iron Man 2, and honestly after BW being highlighted in IM2 I assumed they were setting it up for her own movie.
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I wonder if the fiasco with the Ghost in the Shell has anything to do with the studio not wanting to launch a solo blackwidow film?
Unlikely. The bigger issue with GitS was the trailer and ads did nothing to sell the concept of the movie, it was literally just "Check out ScarJo in SlowMo! In Japanified CG landscapes!".
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Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Why not? There’s no one forcing you to see it.

After Wonder Woman I’m amazed a BW movie wasn’t fast tracked.
Very true. Not enough will see this either if made. She is a secondary character at best.
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Very true. Not enough will see this either if made. She is a secondary character at best.
I feel you're just threadcrapping here. If you have zero interest in a film featuring this character, what are you doing in a news and rumors thread for it?
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Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Why not? There’s no one forcing you to see it.

After Wonder Woman I’m amazed a BW movie wasn’t fast tracked.
Damn, dude. You drop in on the Justice League posts like every week and half to two weeks to say how much it's gonna suck. No one gives you shit for that, and... no one is forcing you to see JL.

let d2cheer have his opinion.
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I feel you're just threadcrapping here. If you have zero interest in a film featuring this character, what are you doing in a news and rumors thread for it?
He can't have an opinion? Even POTENTIAL Marvel films are exempt from criticism and lack of interest? Jesus dude, people come into the DCEU posts all day every day and shit in them and no one says a goddamn thing. We all are told to just take the shitting as "valid criticisms proved by poor reviews." But hey, we take the shitting posts anyway...we're not driving the shitters out like a bunch of bitchy fanboys. The shitters are allowed to shit all they want.
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He can't have an opinion?
Not if the opinion is that any film starring this character is going to not be worth seeing.

To contrast this with Justice League, most of the points of contention are on aspects of casting, directing, WB's overall strategy, marketing, etc. Even the nitpicking of the posters are based on an actual poster, and not just hypotheticals. If someone was like "any Justice League movie is going to suck," then I'd question their participation in that thread as well.

As an example, there's currently a thread on Pet Sematary -- remake (D: Kolsch & Widmyer) on the first page of this forum. I have zero interest in seeing that movie. However, because almost nothing would change my mind, I've opted to simply never open and read that thread, let alone post in it. Let the people who have an interest in the film discuss it.

Also, this is entirely different from review threads, where opposing opinions are welcome, provided you've actually seen the movie.
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Not if the opinion is that any film starring this character is going to not be worth seeing.

To contrast this with Justice League, most of the points of contention are on aspects of casting, directing, WB's overall strategy, marketing, etc. Even the nitpicking of the posters are based on an actual poster, and not just hypotheticals. If someone was like "any Justice League movie is going to suck," then I'd question their participation in that thread as well.

As an example, there's currently a thread on Pet Sematary -- remake (D: Kolsch & Widmyer) on the first page of this forum. I have zero interest in seeing that movie. However, because almost nothing would change my mind, I've opted to simply never open and read that thread, let alone post in it. Let the people who have an interest in the film discuss it.

Also, this is entirely different from review threads, where opposing opinions are welcome, provided you've actually seen the movie.

Oh please. It's still a conversation and people can drop their opinions or thoughts..yes...even on films that haven't come out and films they DON'T want to see. The latter is as valid as any "I can't wait for this!" posts. This "You can't post this or that in a particular type of thread is bullshit.
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Not if the opinion is that any film starring this character is going to not be worth seeing.
Oh for Fucks Sake...


That might be sig worthy.
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He can't have an opinion? Even POTENTIAL Marvel films are exempt from criticism and lack of interest? Jesus dude, people come into the DCEU posts all day every day and shit in them and no one says a goddamn thing. We all are told to just take the shitting as "valid criticisms proved by poor reviews." But hey, we take the shitting posts anyway...we're not driving the shitters out like a bunch of bitchy fanboys. The shitters are allowed to shit all they want.
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Damn, dude. You drop in on the Justice League posts like every week and half to two weeks to say how much it's gonna suck. No one gives you shit for that, and... no one is forcing you to see JL.

let d2cheer have his opinion.
It is going to suck and I won’t see it, but I wasn’t trying to crap on d2cheer. Just my honest response.

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