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Old 02-19-20, 07:25 PM
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

Just got done with the directors cut....I have no idea what was added other than a cool little scene where Jack Torrence is wiping off the alcohol he got on Danny from when.he swatted the glass away...they are in the red bathroom and Jack is talking to Danny and wiping is jacket off like Grady did in the original - he says that management says there's a problem, they talk a bit then it cuts to abra using the shining to call him outside.

Really have no clue what the hell else was added though and I was watching carefully.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

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Really have no clue what the hell else was added though and I was watching carefully.
I watched the theatrical cut a couple of nights ago and started watching the directorís cut yesterday but fell asleep early. The film has easily the most hypnotic music score Iíve heard in quiet sometime, especially the ďthump thumpĒ piece. Abraís introduction in the theatrical is now her second scene in the directorís cut. Itís easy to forget whatís added to an already lengthly film. I plan to watch the rest of the DC today.
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I missed the boat on the Best Buy Steelbook. When I checked the instore availability on the BB website, it said there were 0 available within the 250 mile radius of my local store, then just by some sort of fluke, I checked again a couple days ago and there was ONE available within a 250 mile radius and it happened to be MY local store. Then, to make the story even better, the director, Mike Flanagan, is my sisters boss, and she is getting the steelbook signed for me on Monday. Some good luck is finally coming my way.
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Old 03-21-20, 09:55 PM
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

Just watched this.

It is hard to connect it to Stanley Kubrickís filmmaking.

Other than that, this is a top tier King adaptation. Just a great scary fantasy adventure.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

It has been a long time since I watched the Shinning...is it recommended that you see it before this?
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

I wouldn't say it is 100% necessary, but it would be a large benefit. The film does fill you in and work if you've never seen it.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

Especially with the last 30 minutes or so. It’s a great way to tie this movie with the original.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

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It has been a long time since I watched the Shinning...is it recommended that you see it before this?
Nah. Ghosts are there. It really doesnít go into anything too deep.

This movie gives you the story. Itís not much like Kubrickís slow, dense, psychological filmmaking.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

I watched this last night. I enjoyed it for the most part. It was great going back to the Overlook at the end. I guess a credit to the film is that I was engrossed enough in the movie that I forgot about the Hotel all together as the movie was playing out. I think a lesser movie would have just had me waiting for the Overlook finale without caring much about what was happening beforehand.

I think my biggest tissue with the movie, and this brought it from being a great film to just an above average one, is that there is very little tension between Rose and Abra. From their very first meeting we see that Abra has Roseís number from the get-go and it stays that way throughout. I would have preferred it if Abra was still discovering her powers throughout the movie and started out fairly weak and unsure of her abilities. Abra getting the best of Rose from their very first meeting took any possible suspense away from their interactions.

McGregor was very good however and it felt like a satisfying follow-up to Kubrickís film.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

I think it's interesting how Kubrick, who is singular filmmaker (and one could easily argue is the greatest director of all time), has had two really good sequels made from two of his greatest films. Both Doctor Sleep and 2010 are strong (and logical) sequels to the original films, and excellent films in their own right.

It probably helps that they're both based on sequels to the original novels by the original authors, but both of these films could easily have gone completely south.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

Having loved The Shining (the book and the movie), I figured this would just be another unnecessary sequel. I watched the movie last night and really enjoyed it. Though it's still not needed. At least we avoided a Caddyshack 2 scenario. I doubt I'll ever read Doctor Sleep, though.
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Flanagan dropped the ball in not using Christian Slater for the Lloyd role, though. (The brazen Nicholson impression of his early days is fresh on my mind since the other day I revisited Heathers for the first time in decades via Joe Bob Briggs.)


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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

I can't help but feel they should redo the shining film based entirely on the book - I think it's time now and the book is so amazing you could literally make and engaging 4 hour movie out of it (well, I know I'm reaching there but it's that damn good).
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

Originally Posted by Rival11 View Post
I can't help but feel they should redo the shining film based entirely on the book - I think it's time now and the book is so amazing you could literally make and engaging 4 hour movie out of it (well, I know I'm reaching there but it's that damn good).
Iím not sure if youíre aware but King did a 4 hour tv mini-series in the 90s that was more faithful to the book. It wasnít very good, though.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

The miniseries was fucking awful.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

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The miniseries was fucking awful.
There were a number of problems with the miniseries but it didnít help that they chose the worst child actor in the history of child actors to play Danny.
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Iím not sure if youíre aware but King did a 4 hour tv mini-series in the 90s that was more faithful to the book. It wasnít very good, though.
I am aware and it was hot trash.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

One of the creepiest parts in the book where the guy dressed like a dog, on all fours, running around the hotel floor and telling Danny he was going to eat him up was so f'n creepy in the book - Danny yelling and pleading "let me pass" was done so well - in that beyond horrible mini-series.....ugh, just ugh, it was so cringy.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

I agree it wasn’t good, but to be fair it meets the criteria you set forth.
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Re: Stephen King's Doctor Sleep (2019, D: Flanagan) S: McGregor, Ferguson

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This one was a total misfire for me, even though I enjoyed one of the director's previous movies, Oculus. This one just felt overblown, formulaic and completely predictable. Couldn't really get into any of this movie's protagonists or their dilemmas. McGregor was the stereotypical drunk loser who has to sober up and face his demons in order to conquer the evil villains. Of course, he gets tempted by the offer of a drink later on, right? The little girl was too cocky and sure of herself for me to ever feel she was in any real danger. Her parents were just a waste of screen time and the little girl didn't even seem to care
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after her pops got murdered



The bad guys were practically immortal and had supernatural powers
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but are quickly wiped out by a couple of guys with rifles? Why does the blonde teenage girl turn to dust when she dies even though she didn't age hardly at all during the movie's running time?



Finally got around to this movie. Mike Flanagan does solid work but as much as I wanted to like this movie, there are too many obvious issues. Main two are: Abra is too cocky and OP. Movie needed her more vulnerable and the conflict should've been her racing to harness/develop her power before group finds her. And the other issue is Rebecca Ferguson is simply not a menacing villain. They just look like hippy carnie folk. I couldn't take her seriously. And I don't know if it's because I watched the director's cut but everything is drawn out needlessly.

It's funny that the only character I really character about was Jacob Tremblay, and he had two scenes.

And totally agree with the points quoted. Outcome of the baddies was pathetic.

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Finally got around to this movie. Mike Flanagan does solid work but as much as I wanted to like this movie, there are too many obvious issues. Main two are: Abra is too cocky and OP. Movie needed her more vulnerable and the conflict should've been her racing to harness/develop her power before group finds her. And the other issue is Rebecca Ferguson is simply not a menacing villain. They just look like hippy carnie folk. I couldn't take her seriously. And I don't know if it's because I watched the director's cut but everything is drawn out needlessly.

It's funny that the only character I really character about was Jacob Tremblay, and he had two scenes.

And totally agree with the points quoted. Outcome of the baddies was pathetic.

Have you read the book? I'm not knocking you for not doing so, but a lot of the shortcomings you mention come directly from the source.

Is the version for sale digitally the DC(looking at iTunes), or is that only available in physical form? Thanks!

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