The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh

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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Not so much as hate blacks as pretty pissed off when even the suggestion of this might get turned urban has to be defended or apologized.
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
I don't like Will Smith in much of anything beyond the Bad Boys movies, so I'd be ok with MBJ not becoming the "next" Will Smith.

Count me in as someone who doesn't think this one would benefit from a remake, but I'll wait to see what comes out of it.
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Quote: This is probably not the thread to go off on this, but I'm going to anyway on the basis of fucking ridiculousness of the comment made. Sure, when blacks make black films that features nothing but black actor and actresses, the society as a whole is fine with it. Nobody cry foul or calling it racist. Yet, when blacks didn't get nominated they slap the racist label without actually looking the substance in question. Racism goes both ways. If black films, BET, NAACP are allowed to exist then don't come crying OscarSoWhite. Fucking ridiculous.
I also think that there's the issue that there aren't that many "black films" being made. There were tons in the 90s, but now not so much. Now it's mostly comedies. When the biggest black actors don't even want to star in "black films", you have a bigger problem than the Oscars. And there is an audience. Just look at the success of a TV show like Empire, for example.
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Quote: I also think that there's the issue that there aren't that many "black films" being made. There were tons in the 90s, but now not so much. Now it's mostly comedies. When the biggest black actors don't even want to star in "black films", you have a bigger problem than the Oscars. And there is an audience. Just look at the success of a TV show like Empire, for example.
Yeah, but they blame this on being a white issue. The big money are all in white people's hand thus there is very little opportunities given to black producers, directors, or actors. It's all bunch of victim stances. Sure if you have plenty of money waste on 50 Shades of Black then don't make OscarsoWhite a white people issue. As a non-white and non-black person, I'd like to believe I'm neutral on this issue. And from my personal experiences, I find black people are more racist than people of any other race.
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Quote: Not so much as hate blacks as pretty pissed off when even the suggestion of this might get turned urban has to be defended or apologized.
It's the world we live in now, unfortuantely. A direct product of the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality. Surely if a group of people isn't represented in nominations for awards voted on by their peers, the "simple" answer nowadays is that the peers were biased against that group, rather than the group simply was not deserving of said nominations.

Quote: Yeah, but they blame this on being a white issue. The big money are all in white people's hand thus there is very little opportunities given to black producers, directors, or actors. It's all bunch of victim stances. Sure if you have plenty of money waste on 50 Shades of Black then don't make OscarsoWhite a white people issue. As a non-white and non-black person, I'd like to believe I'm neutral on this issue. And from my personal experiences, I find black people are more racist than people of any other race.
The movie studios are out to make money. Pure and simple. If black films, made by blacks and starring blacks made money, the studios would make them, pure and simple. Fact is that they by and large do not make as much money as "white" films.
And I agree wholeheartedly with your last statement. Hands down, the most racist people I have ever met, have been black.
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Movies/art is subjective, and none of the actors nominated for Oscars 'deserve' it. The Academy Awards are a circle jerk popularity contest, which is why the same pale faces get nominated every year. Leo is one of the most overacting sumbitches in Hollywood, but he gets nominated almost every year because he's well liked in Hollywood. Meryl Streep would get nominated if her entire performance in a movie consisted of musical farts.
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Quote: The movie studios are out to make money. Pure and simple. If black films, made by blacks and starring blacks made money, the studios would make them, pure and simple. Fact is that they by and large do not make as much money as "white" films.
Other types films are lacking as well. Dramas in general aren't being made as much by major studios either. The international market mindset has completely taken over. Why make only millions domestically when you can make billions from the whole world? Straight Outta Compton was a huge hit domestically, but overseas grossed around $40m, a small percentage of its gross.
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It also only cost $28 million though. It looks more expensive cuz they had a great crew. Matthew Libatique being one of them.
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I just find it funny that just because Michael B. Jordan is in it that it has to be suggested that it's going to be "urban". As if a black actor could not just reign it in and has to "keep it street, yo" otherwise no one will see it.

In an industry that has English accent actors playing more American roles than you can shake a broom at, to have an actor challenge or branch out to something that you may not automatically picture them in is that far out of the realm of possibility?

#OscarSoBritish


That and I like giving Blu shit for his silly mouth breather comments.
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Quote: I just find it funny that just because Michael B. Jordan is in it that it has to be suggested that it's going to be "urban". As if a black actor could not just reign it in and has to "keep it street, yo" otherwise no one will see it.

In an industry that has English accent actors playing more American roles than you can shake a broom at, to have an actor challenge or branch out to something that you may not automatically picture them in is that far out of the realm of possibility?

#OscarSoBritish


That and I like giving Blu shit for his silly mouth breather comments.


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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Quote: Yeah. I don't see any Will Smith.

MBJ has been a great actor. He was on a great fucking show called The Wire. And he was fucking good in it too. He was a goddamn kid in The Wire. The guy is a legit actor. I dunno what he can and can't do. But he can act like a motherfucker.
I don't see it either. Will Smith is great at playing Will Smith but his range doesn't really extend to far beyond that. Jordan is an all around fantastic actor.
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He was also on The Sopranos. For one episode, in a flashback as a kid that taunts a young Tony. So he's got cred for both that and The Wire.
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He's more ryan gosling than denzel or will

(wouldn't be surprised if MBJ's name gets thrown around after the next series of Bond movies.)
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Quote: Other types films are lacking as well. Dramas in general aren't being made as much by major studios either. The international market mindset has completely taken over. Why make only millions domestically when you can make billions from the whole world? Straight Outta Compton was a huge hit domestically, but overseas grossed around $40m, a small percentage of its gross.
Agreed. The only color the studios care about is green.

Quote: He's more ryan gosling than denzel or will

(wouldn't be surprised if MBJ's name gets thrown around after the next series of Bond movies.)
For what? Bond?
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Holy shit. Zero high concept ideas circulating in Hollywood if they're remaking a mediocre movie for the second time.
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Quote: (wouldn't be surprised if MBJ's name gets thrown around after the next series of Bond movies.)
But he's American - a color blind Bond I could accept. An American Bond, no...I just couldn't.
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Agreed. Bond has to be British.
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EXCLUSIVE: Wes Tooke has signed on to write MGM’s reimagining of The Thomas Crown Affair starring Michael B Jordan. Jordan is also producing via his Outlier Society banner with Joe Russo and Anthony Russo through their AGBO banner.

This marks third Thomas Crown Affair, with the most recent bowing in 1999 and starring Pierce Brosnan as the rich playboy who enjoys stealing art for a hobby but meets his match in a detective, played by Rene Russo, who quickly fall for each other.

The property is high priority for the studio given how popular the IP is as well Jordan being one of the industry’s biggest stars.

Tooke’s star is also on on the rise as he has quickly become one of the more in demand writers in town. He previously served as a writer/executive producer on USA Network’s drama Colony and followed that up with Roland Emmerich’s WWII pic Midway. He was co-executive producer on Amazon’s comedy Jean-Claude Van Johnson, and he currently has multiple film and TV projects in development including an untitled monster project for Pictures with Channing Tatum starring and producing alongside Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

He is repped by CAA, Kaplan/Perrone Entertainment and Linda Lichter and Jonathan E. Shikora of Lichter, Grossman, Nichols & Adler.
https://deadline.com/2021/07/wes-too...an-1234793208/
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The property is high priority for the studio given how popular the IP is
Popular? Have the previous versions seen an increase interest via streaming?
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You mean you guys haven't been inundated with all these young, beautiful, barely 20-something TikTok stars waxing incessantly about their love for The Thomas Crown Affair?
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I mean, I really like the remake (mostly because I am a Brosnan fanboy) and I have zero problems having it remade again but how desperate is MGM that they feel this is a popular IP?
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
I'd much rather have a sequel with Brosnan than another remake.
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re: The Thomas Crown Affair (2027, D: Michael B. Jordan) S: Jordan, Arjona, Branagh
Jordan will direct this as well:
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/m...s-1236140998/?
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Quote: Popular? Have the previous versions seen an increase interest via streaming?
Just industry nonsense with PR masked as journalism.
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