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Old 12-24-15, 07:52 AM
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Finally saw it last night. J.J. Abrams aped my childhood, and I'm cool with that.

I knew there was a need to have lots of nostalgia nods (like old stories re-told between family members who meet back up after too long apart), and the film was a great bridge connecting the past with where we're going next.

I also liked the Apocalypse Now homage with the Tie Fighters approaching in line with the sun behind them.

My minor nitpicks have pretty much been covered in this thread. One new one - the smuggler gang Mexican standoff scene with Han and Chewie felt like something that would fit better in a Firefly episode than a Star Wars movie.

Look forward to seeing it again.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
EPISODE 6: Leia was to be elected "Queen of her people" leaving her isolated. Han was to die. Luke confronted Vader and went on with his life alone. Leia was not to be Luke's sister.
Damn. I would have loved that. Especially the last line.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Do we know how Ren got Vadar's mask?
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by OldBoy
Do we know how Ren got Vadar's mask?
No. The film doesn't say. We still don't know anything about the gritty details as to how shit went down. We just know shit went down in vague details.

I'm guessing VIII says a lot more about what happened with Luke back.
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
Great! I still don't really get your last two replies to me, which leads me back to my previous post that you questioned - it doesn't make much sense for you to treat things as fact or as though they're obvious when you're clearly in the minority with your opinion.
I'm sure you don't get it. Since you continue to maintain that an opinion that is different than the "majority" is wrong.
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Originally Posted by Draven
I liked that he wasn't a deformed mess ala Darth Vader. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it drove the point home that he wants to be Darth Vader but it's totally a costume because he doesn't need it.

I went in completely spoiler free (didn't even know Adam Driver was playing Kylo) so it was a "holy shit, he's just a kid" moment for me.
I agree to a certain extent. I like that they didn't fully copy Vader, although Kylo was definitely filling Vader's "spot". It was very evident that he is trying to be Vader, but isn't there quite yet. Like with Finn, taking the helmet off humanized him. That definitely separated him further from Vader. I keep wondering if maybe they should have saved the first helmet removal for when he is on the bridge with Han.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by OldBoy
Do we know how Ren got Vadar's mask?
We don't know, and I don't know that it matters, or if it will be explained, but if you have to draw a plausible explanation in your own mind, I don't think it's out of the question that Luke would have kept it after the battle of Endor. And then if Luke had it, and Kylo was his student, it would've been easy for him to take it.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Just more of a general thing I noticed. I also noticed that the fighter JJ Abrams is standing next to in the pic posted is a single engine plane (on each side) as opposed to the the double engine (on each side) ones. So they're even less powerful but do more?
When the wings are spread, don't those engines also separate, leaving two half moon engines per side?
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Originally Posted by Loc Nar
I also liked the Apocalypse Now homage with the Tie Fighters approaching in line with the sun behind them.
It is a great visual. By background switches between that image and an image of the star destroyer crashed in the desert.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni
We don't know, and I don't know that it matters, or if it will be explained, but if you have to draw a plausible explanation in your own mind, I don't think it's out of the question that Luke would have kept it after the battle of Endor. And then if Luke had it, and Kylo was his student, it would've been easy for him to take it.
yeah, i figured Luke kept it and that seems very plausible...
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

My main complaint is that the fate of Captain Phasma was unecessarily cruel for the "good" guys.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

-There was one Chewie crossbow blast that knocks back a storm trooper and shatters the armor -- fcking loved that.

-Daisy Ridley -- more of her, in anything!

-Phasma walking tall and then Chewie's fist entering stage right

- :lighter:

-someone asked how bb8 would get back up the steps -- I say shooting out those cables and reeling / swinging up a la Indiana jones, obviously

-my idea for the final shot:

Luke reaches out
Cut back to Rey with palm open; lightsaber begins to move
Helicopter roundabout shot with saber floating from Rey to Luke
Tight shot of Luke's face; ignites saber partially covering his face like in those posters

End scene
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Nah. It's just a stronger shot if they just were to leave it w/ Rey in the back and the saber in hand towards luke. It was a nice emotionally strong shot. But then the helicopter shot ruins it by:

1. Being there at all

2. Being a fucking long awkward shot cuz Rey is... STILL with her hand out.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Nah. It's just a stronger shot if they just were to leave it w/ Rey in the back and the saber in hand towards luke. It was a nice emotionally strong shot. But then the helicopter shot ruins it by:

1. Being there at all

2. Being a fucking long awkward shot cuz Rey is... STILL with her hand out.
Agreed.

Less is more.
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I thought the last scene worked very well. There was a small part of me, though, that was hoping Rey would say "Luke Skywalker?" To which Luke would respond "Luke Skywalker? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

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I thought the last scene worked very well. There was a small part of me, though, that was hoping Rey would say "Luke Skywalker?" To which Luke would respond "Luke Skywalker? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."
Beginning of episode VIII.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

nah, it was perfect as is. nothing said and just looks of longing...
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Looking is one thing. Hand out with saber? Awkward. It was a very long time with her doing that as it is. Also it's just stronger knowing what she's doing and her determination in it.

The helicopter shot was pointless.
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Originally Posted by JasonF
I thought the last scene worked very well. There was a small part of me, though, that was hoping Rey would say "Luke Skywalker?" To which Luke would respond "Luke Skywalker? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."
There can't be any dialogue in the last scene of a Star Wars movie.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Since Rey has a British accent, we can only assume Luke knocked up Mon Mothma.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by Solid Snake
Looking is one thing. Hand out with saber? Awkward. It was a very long time with her doing that as it is. Also it's just stronger knowing what she's doing and her determination in it.

The helicopter shot was pointless.
It was mere seconds, and I took the helicopter shot as occurring at the same time as the initial action, and it showed a nice, scenic shot. Not saying you have to like it, but it wasn't pointless.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by jjcool
I'm sure you don't get it. Since you continue to maintain that an opinion that is different than the "majority" is wrong.
Not only is your opinion in the extreme minority, but the filmmaker himself refutes your contention.

From the an interview in Wired:
Originally Posted by J.J. Abrams
But these new characters, which Force is very much about, find themselves in new situations - so even if you don't know anything about Star Wars, you're right there with them. If you are a fan of Star Wars, what they experience will have added meaning.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Since Rey has a British accent, we can only assume Luke knocked up Mon Mothma.
A young Mon Mothma:



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