Breakfast with Girls

It was OK, not bad. A few funny moments. Seemed like a highlight reel from the originals more than its own thing, though. Abrams played it too safe. Enough with the super weapons.

Orbi-Wan Techno

So my wife's idea isn't so crazy, eh? She'll be happy to know that.

JasonF

I was expecting Rey to call him by name, and for him to respond "Luke Skywalker? Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."

Agreed. I thought this movie captured the spirit of the originals in a way the prequels never did.

JasonF

He mentions (while communing with Vader's helmet, I think) that he's being seduced by the light. My take is that he's a good kid, who rebelled against his parents and his uncle for some reason -- what, I don't think we know yet -- but at the end of the day, he's still the decent person that Han and Leia raised. So he wants to reject whatever it is that pushed him away from his family, and maybe he wants the power that he sees in the First Order, but he still struggles with what he has to do. I think we're going to really see some interesting parallels with Finn in subsequent movies; Finn basically did what Kylo (Ben) feels, on some level, that he should be doing.

Ky-Fi

Same here--I loved it. It's like Abrams really understood everything that was wrong with the prequels, and corrected it. Very good casting, performances and dialogue. A bunch of nice small and slow moments. Less CGI, more practical effects. And maybe most importantly, the tone and humor hearkened back to Star Wars and Empire.

silentbob007

In my second viewing, I tried to specifically focus on Rey. At least there were enough layers, IMO, to make the movie interesting on repeat views.

Guru Askew

None of the prequels were thinly-veiled remakes of the original film. In fact, there isn't a reused OT setpiece to be found in the entire prequel trilogy. Closest thing would be the pre-Ewok Wookiee battle finally being realized in RotS. But TFA has the big three actors and literally the same plot. Of course it's gonna feel like the old ones.

I enjoyed TFA. I rank it higher than RotJ and the first two prequels. I've said as much elsewhere on the forums already. I'd just be hard-pressed to name anything about the movie that was unpredictable or risky or even particularly clever.

johnnysd

OK, I had stayed completely spoiler free before this but went back and watched the trailers. Luke does a voiceover in that one. There is really no other person that he can be talking to other than Rey, so doesn't that all but confirm Rey is a Skywalker?

Ash Ketchum

While all you guys are jizzing out over STAR WARS, I was home last night for the exciting premiere of the latest entry in the one movie franchise in which every installment is worth waiting for.









Eat your heart out, Chewbacca!

asianxcore

There's also that

Shazam

Uh, the award ceremony at the end of TPM?

Pod race = speeder chase?

ViewAskewbian

That's where I think it's going.

Guru Askew

That's the best example you could come up with? Here's a freebie: the final wedding shot in AotC was modeled after the final shot of TESB. There's a difference between callbacks/homages (which Lucas was actually obsessed with and pretentiously called "poetic) and just rehashing. TFA literally repurposes the whole plot of the original film.

What about the staging of those two sequences is similar? Why restrict the comparison to every scene in the series in which high-speed conveyances are zipping around?

Shazam

We get it, you don't like the movie.

Guru Askew

But I do like it.

Shazam

Alright then, what's the problem then? Didn't quite meet your expectations? Well, nothing would have.

Guru Askew

It was pretty much what I expected. That's essentially my point. I think just about anyone could have made this movie, or more specifically anyone in Abram's position would have made the same movie. It was reverse-engineered to be safe and pleasing on an executive level.

I got my money's worth. I was entertained. That said, there's nothing interesting about the movie.

Ranger

No mention of Coruscant, eh? Wonder if we'll ever see it again.

Sorraffy

Yeah her parts were kinda odd for me. I mean how long did they wait for her to come along before "capturing" her? Or was it just oddly convenient that she came along at the exact time they needed her?

And for as "badass" as she was suppose to look she sure gave in way to easily to bring down the shield down and screw over everyone. You'd think she'd have put up a bigger fight I mean even Rey had to use the force on some random trooper to get undone from her restraints and here we have Phasma, no force required, bringing down the planet's shield

JasonF

You're kidding, right?

http://www.starwars.com/news/paralle...than-you-think

Why So Blu?

Too late for that bullshit. He killed his father and there's no coming back from that.

Finn had that epiphany when his friend/or whoever that was got killed in front of him and smeared blood on his helmet.

Mabuse

The phantom menace rehashes New Hope and ROTJ. Young Jedi from tatoine, young royal woman, gun-guns equal ewoks, there's a ground, space, and lightsaber battle going on all at once. The wonky pod race is the analog to the cantina scene.

JasonF

Oh, I agree that the line Kylo has crossed makes it impossible to come back (though maybe Kasdan will surprise us). I just think there are some interesting parallels between the pull of Finn's conscience and the pull of Kylo's.

Why So Blu?

RE: Guru Askew's post:

So then The Force Awakens is to New Hope what Predators is to Predator? That's the analogy I'm getting. That FA is basically a reboot for the new generation. #amirite

devilshalo

On second viewing today, as much as it is for some comedic moments, I felt they could have just cast Kevin Hart as Finn.