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#976
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
It might make more sense for her to do more in the sequel. She'd have more of a reason to want revenge on Finn and there's probably going to be more time for developing her character. This film needed to focus on Rey, Finn, and Kylo first. At the end of the day though she's really just a Trooper in fancier armor with a name.
#977
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I don't buy the "no time" to develop her bit. If so, then it should have been her against Finn instead of fucking Baton boy. Sheesh, what a waste.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Jesus, stop being a mouth breather about this. You're acting like they don't have 2 more movies to build her up better. Because if it was him against her instead of baton boy, people would be bitching that she wasn't bad ass enough to just take him out in two seconds.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
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Jesus, stop being a mouth breather about this. You're acting like they don't have 2 more movies to build her up better. Because if it was him against her instead of baton boy, people would be bitching that she wasn't bad ass enough to just take him out in two seconds.
I'm kind of bemused by this whole Phasma thing, though -- I remember when Empire came out and everyone thought Boba Fett was the most bad-ass character ever, even though all he really did was stand next to Darth Vader.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
That still doesn't help that the character was kind of a throwaway. As previously mentioned, I'm guessing she was a character that got hurt by the edit.
#981
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Jesus, stop being a mouth breather about this. You're acting like they don't have 2 more movies to build her up better. Because if it was him against her instead of baton boy, people would be bitching that she wasn't bad ass enough to just take him out in two seconds.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
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#982
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
What does Avatar or its sequels have to do with anything? I'm not making excuses about Phasma I just think some people are making her not having a large role in the film to be a bigger deal than it is.
#983
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I just felt like they tried to cram too story into 2hrs 16min. They advanced things way too quickly and I wish they would have done a better job fleshing out the story more. While I liked the new characters I just didn't have any emotional attachment to any of them and was never really concerned when they were faced with a dangerous situation.
Kylo Ren was a big disappointment. And despite the idea to cast relative unknowns, I think the Order could have used some familiar faces to add gravitas to their side. A giant imaginary CGI unknown, an occasionally-talentless whiney wannabe and a youthful rubbish nonHitler-lite trying to corral a bunch of Storm Troopers that were no longer clones but had instead been very, very poorly brainwashed. They seemed like an army of autonomous individuals, not a faceless forced evil. Which seems off.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
And I'd rather they not blew their load all at once on this if they could afford to avoid it and spread out the characters for a trilogy.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
It might make more sense for her to do more in the sequel. She'd have more of a reason to want revenge on Finn and there's probably going to be more time for developing her character. This film needed to focus on Rey, Finn, and Kylo first. At the end of the day though she's really just a Trooper in fancier armor with a name.
sarcasm aside, VII needed something more in the script or the edit. Poe, Phasma, and Hux (as examples) are rather underdeveloped.
Yes. We have a trilogy. But that shouldn't be a reason to have that kind of feeling from any character. The film has to be self contained either way. We're leaping into this world again but storytelling shouldn't be fractured like that. VII had some issues. It's still a good film but it had some issues that either it couldn't fix in the edit or it just didn't come out right from the script.
Jesus, stop being a mouth breather about this. You're acting like they don't have 2 more movies to build her up better. Because if it was him against her instead of baton boy, people would be bitching that she wasn't bad ass enough to just take him out in two seconds.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
This isn't a case of Aurra Sing or anything, so calm your calzones, homie.
Exactly -- we don't know what plans they have for Phasma. But depending on what they are, having her get defeated by Finn in a straight-up fight might not make sense.
I'm kind of bemused by this whole Phasma thing, though -- I remember when Empire came out and everyone thought Boba Fett was the most bad-ass character ever, even though all he really did was stand next to Darth Vader.
I'm kind of bemused by this whole Phasma thing, though -- I remember when Empire came out and everyone thought Boba Fett was the most bad-ass character ever, even though all he really did was stand next to Darth Vader.
#986
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Saying Hux is underdeveloped is like saying Tarkin was underdeveloped in ANH.
We're thrown into the story and see this is the bad guy in charge. OK, we get it, let's get on with the story.
We didn't need Tarkin's life story to move on and get with the narrative.
Don't need Poe's either. He's a badass pilot. Crawler told us he's the best. Cool. Let's see what he does from here.
We're thrown into the story and see this is the bad guy in charge. OK, we get it, let's get on with the story.
We didn't need Tarkin's life story to move on and get with the narrative.
Don't need Poe's either. He's a badass pilot. Crawler told us he's the best. Cool. Let's see what he does from here.
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#987
Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Saying Hux is underdeveloped is like saying Tarken was underdeveloped in ANH.
We're thrown into the story and see this is the bad guy in charge. OK, we get it, let's get on with the story.
We didn't need Tarkin's life story to move on and get with the narrative.
Don't need Poe's either. He's a badass pilot. Crawler told us he's the best. Cool. Let's see what he does from here.
We're thrown into the story and see this is the bad guy in charge. OK, we get it, let's get on with the story.
We didn't need Tarkin's life story to move on and get with the narrative.
Don't need Poe's either. He's a badass pilot. Crawler told us he's the best. Cool. Let's see what he does from here.
#988
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
All those prequel Senate scenes... and the Senate is disbanded with one line of dialogue in ANH. Not everything needs to be overly explained.
#989
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
I was generalizing. Shit, other than Star Wars (prequels aside) seem to always get passes no matter what. Just scan the previous pages. Folks hated this and that, but ZOMG I gotta see it 5 more times just to make sure. Then someone points out that a certain character and plot point was garbage and the defenders come out. That's what I don't get.
Hell, I thought it was entertaining enough, but it has problems.
#990
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to me, it wasn't about her backstory. I don't care about her history, how she became a captain, etc. I just wanted her to DO more. As it stood, she said some things in the background, and caved at the first sign of trouble. Pretty underwhelming.
#991
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True, but the filmmakers clearly felt the character fulfilled her role in the film. It's a testament to the strength of the character design, publicity, etc. that some wanted more from her. And maybe that will come in future films.
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Fucking Mouth breathers, bitching that they didn't do more with a side character when they clearly had to worry about fleshing out the main characters.
#996
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Badass Phasma: Being locked in the trash compactor is what saved her when the planet blew up.
precedent: Indiana Jones survives nuclear blast in refrigerator
precedent: Indiana Jones survives nuclear blast in refrigerator
#998
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Also known as bad storytelling. The fact that you went with the abomination that was Crystal Skull makes it abundantly clear.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Abrams, 2015) — The Reviews Thread
Ugh, Mouth breathers and basement dwellers still complaining about a fridge surviving a nuclear blast when in the past films a man gets his still beating heart pulled out of his chest, also father survives a bullet wound by pouring religious water given by a man a few hundred years old.... but nah, dawg. MY DISBELIEF IS RUINED WHEN INDIANA JONES DOESN'T BECOME A SHADOW ON THE GROUND.
Stop hyping characters up in your mind. It's like saying that storm troopers with red shoulder pads shouldn't miss because they have red shoulder pads! Clearly they were underdeveloped as they looked different!
Stop hyping characters up in your mind. It's like saying that storm troopers with red shoulder pads shouldn't miss because they have red shoulder pads! Clearly they were underdeveloped as they looked different!