Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
06-01-19, 04:48 PM
#327
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
In Man of Steel Pa Kent dies for no good reason, and Superman kills in his first outing.
In Batman Begins, Batman has a no killing policy, but has no problem blowing up the League of Shadows and killing most of the ninjas there. He lets Ra's die because he doesn't have to save him.
I think Synder was right to give us the Phantom Zone criminals in the reboot, because after the boring Superman Returns, audiences needed a superhuman slugfest to really show off Superman's abilities.
The Giger-esque Kryptonian technology was really cool.
Casting for Faora and Zod were spot on.
The muted color scheme made the film and the character feel more serious. I prefer the Superman's suit in Man of Steel better than the brighter one in Justice League.
Henry Cavill, perfect casting.
No Lex.
In Batman Begins, Batman has a no killing policy, but has no problem blowing up the League of Shadows and killing most of the ninjas there. He lets Ra's die because he doesn't have to save him.
I think Synder was right to give us the Phantom Zone criminals in the reboot, because after the boring Superman Returns, audiences needed a superhuman slugfest to really show off Superman's abilities.
The Giger-esque Kryptonian technology was really cool.
Casting for Faora and Zod were spot on.
The muted color scheme made the film and the character feel more serious. I prefer the Superman's suit in Man of Steel better than the brighter one in Justice League.
Henry Cavill, perfect casting.
No Lex.
06-01-19, 10:21 PM
#328
DVD Talk Limited Edition
06-02-19, 01:26 AM
#329
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
But I LOVED Cavill as Superman/Clark, and I really liked Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman. They could have continued with them, and that would have made sense since they're continuing with Gadot as WW and Momoa as Aquaman. There was no reason to recast/reboot with the WW & Aquaman franchises continuing on.
06-02-19, 03:57 AM
#330
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
When two major films starring two of the biggest comic characters of all time underperform and are critically panned it’s pretty easy to understand why Affleck and Cavill aren’t returning. Gadot and Momoa are carrying on because their individual films both did well enough to justify moving forward.
Last edited by Mike86; 06-02-19 at 08:39 AM.
06-02-19, 10:42 AM
#333
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Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
The DCMU is a wreck.
going with an older Batman was a huge mistake.
Cavill was great but those movies were dreary and dreadful.
Keep Gadot, Mamoa and Cavill. Recast Aspergers Flash, and go with Pattinson as Batman Just call it Justice League: Rebirth or some shit and just start from scratch. If you want to spin it as one of the other multiverse crap then whatever. Cut your losses, keep what works, jettison the rest. If the movie is good nobody will care.
going with an older Batman was a huge mistake.
Cavill was great but those movies were dreary and dreadful.
Keep Gadot, Mamoa and Cavill. Recast Aspergers Flash, and go with Pattinson as Batman Just call it Justice League: Rebirth or some shit and just start from scratch. If you want to spin it as one of the other multiverse crap then whatever. Cut your losses, keep what works, jettison the rest. If the movie is good nobody will care.
06-02-19, 11:23 AM
#334
DVD Talk Gold Edition
06-03-19, 06:40 AM
#336
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
I have ZERO desire to see a new Superman trilogy where the first movie takes place entirely on Krypton. Superman's home planet is fine for a pre-credit sequence but - let's be honest here - has never been all that interesting. Brando couldn't make it interesting; Russell Crowe couldn't make it interesting; and the SyFy show KRYPTON has failed to make it interesting. The Kents' raising of Clark has ALWAYS made for better drama than anything on Superman's birth planet. That's why people loved Smallville.
06-03-19, 04:15 PM
#337
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
Hell, the biggest problem with MoS was how long the intro on Krypton took. It's too long in Superman '78 too. Does anyone give a shit about Krypton other than DC?
06-03-19, 04:34 PM
#338
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
I have ZERO desire to see a new Superman trilogy where the first movie takes place entirely on Krypton. Superman's home planet is fine for a pre-credit sequence but - let's be honest here - has never been all that interesting. Brando couldn't make it interesting; Russell Crowe couldn't make it interesting; and the SyFy show KRYPTON has failed to make it interesting. The Kents' raising of Clark has ALWAYS made for better drama than anything on Superman's birth planet. That's why people loved Smallville.
06-04-19, 09:04 AM
#340
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
I can actually do without an origin story next time around.
06-04-19, 03:32 PM
#341
DVD Talk Limited Edition
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WB has only itself to blame for the mess it's in. After the MoS disaster, instead of cutting Hack Snyder loose, they gave him TWO MORE FILMS to completely crater the DCEU franchise.
06-04-19, 06:52 PM
#344
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
5 years ago I was champing at the bit for MoS 2. Now with no Cavill I don’t give a shit.
06-05-19, 03:06 AM
#345
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Yup the whole krypton stuff was such a great addition to the movie Superman lore, was new and actually exciting.
the problem is that Snyder and WB totally dropped all of its meaning and future plot for some stupid crossover that wasn’t deserved.
the problem is that Snyder and WB totally dropped all of its meaning and future plot for some stupid crossover that wasn’t deserved.
06-10-19, 06:45 AM
#346
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Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
It look as as if Cavill and WB are miles apart on him returning to the role of Superman. I would hate if they couldn't agree and WB recast the part of Superman.
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06-10-19, 08:20 AM
#347
DVD Talk Legend
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I just assume he's done as Superman and it will be a long time, like 10 years, before we get a solo Superman movie (also that article is from 4 months ago).
06-10-19, 08:35 AM
#348
DVD Talk Hero
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If they can recast and move onto a new Batman right away I'm not sure why they wouldn't do the same for Superman, unless they're really not going to go for a connected universe in the near term.
06-10-19, 08:59 AM
#349
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Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
Cavill was great as Superman. Affleck was really good as Batman. So, of course DC gets rid of them.
The people running the DC movies are unwilling and unable to face the facts - that THEY screwed up the movies to one extent or another, and that their disappointing box office numbers had everything to do with the scripts, production, and direction, and nothing to do with Cavill or Affleck.
The people running the DC movies are unwilling and unable to face the facts - that THEY screwed up the movies to one extent or another, and that their disappointing box office numbers had everything to do with the scripts, production, and direction, and nothing to do with Cavill or Affleck.
06-10-19, 09:03 AM
#350
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Man of Steel 2 - News, rumors, etc.
Cavill was great as Superman. Affleck was really good as Batman. So, of course DC gets rid of them.
The people running the DC movies are unwilling and unable to face the facts - that THEY screwed up the movies to one extent or another, and that their disappointing box office numbers had everything to do with the scripts, production, and direction, and nothing to do with Cavill or Affleck.
The people running the DC movies are unwilling and unable to face the facts - that THEY screwed up the movies to one extent or another, and that their disappointing box office numbers had everything to do with the scripts, production, and direction, and nothing to do with Cavill or Affleck.