The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
#976
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
I don't like the Nolan films but they were not successful because of Bale. People liked the writing and stories (god knows why) of the three films. Bale working with what Affleck has been given wouldn't have made a difference. And I don't see Nolan coming back for any amount of money.
#977
re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
I don't really want Bale back. The Nolan films stand on their own as a separate trilogy. I'd rather Gyllenhaal over Bale for the new series.
#978
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
I agree. Nolan/Bale's trilogy is its own thing, this Universe doesn't need that.
Hell, give it to Tom Hardy. ()
Hell, give it to Tom Hardy. ()
#979
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I know money talks but I don’t feel like he’ll return. The only foreseeable way is if Nolan was brought on board in some capacity and gave his stamp of approval. Even then I feel like it would be a long shot. I feel like Bale has had his time with the role and wants to do more personal projects and the same goes for Nolan. I wouldn’t oppose it if it happened and was done well but I don’t know. This feels like some WB fantasy desperation move or bullshit to me.
#980
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I know money talks but I don’t feel like he’ll return. The only foreseeable way is if Nolan was brought on board in some capacity and gave his stamp of approval. Even then I feel like it would be a long shot. I feel like Bale has had his time with the role and wants to do more personal projects and the same goes for Nolan. I wouldn’t oppose it if it happened and was done well but I don’t know. This feels like some WB fantasy desperation move or bullshit to me.
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
Stooop A Nolan-Verse DC film won't work in this age of Comic Films. Why would anyone even entertain that? Ya'll bitched and moaned about DC's darkness, lack of fun, lack of shawarma jokes, and lack of bright colors. There was none of that in the Nolan-Trilogy. You want Hero Comedies. I doubt Nolan would lighten any of that shit up to make ya'll happy now.
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#983
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Stooop A Nolan-Verse DC film won't work in this age of Comic Films. Why would anyone one even entertain that? Ya'll bitched and moaned about DC's darkness, lack of fun, lack of shawarma jokes, and lack Birgit colors. There was none of that in the Nolan-Trilogy. I doubt Nolan would lighten any of that shit up to make ya'll happy now.
Then again, growing up I never felt Batman and Superman meshed well together, tonally or otherwise. So it's definitely a fine line to walk for the current iteration.
#984
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Not saying he is just that it’s the only way I could maybe see Bale returning. I’ll be shocked if he does return.
Also while the Nolan films were dark in tone they were different in that they weren’t shot entirely shrouded in darkness and weird filters. Also there actually were moments of levity from characters like Alfred, Lucius, and Gordon. Even Bale’s Wayne had some lighthearted moments.
Also while the Nolan films were dark in tone they were different in that they weren’t shot entirely shrouded in darkness and weird filters. Also there actually were moments of levity from characters like Alfred, Lucius, and Gordon. Even Bale’s Wayne had some lighthearted moments.
#985
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
Stooop A Nolan-Verse DC film won't work in this age of Comic Films. Why would anyone one even entertain that? Ya'll bitched and moaned about DC's darkness, lack of fun, lack of shawarma jokes, and lack of bright colors. There was none of that in the Nolan-Trilogy. You wan't Hero Comedies. I doubt Nolan would lighten any of that shit up to make ya'll happy now.
#986
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Again I don’t see how you can compare the tone of the Nolan Batman films where yes the tone was dark but fit the story and had some moments of levity versus the DCEU (at least the first three films) where everything is dark just for the sake of being so. Completely different takes on attempting to go a more serious route with superhero films.
#987
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Don't think Bale can fit in DCU. If he were to come back, it would suck if he were to bitch-out after the first two films.
#988
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Yeah and the problem is people would expect him to be carrying on the role how he played it. He’d be capable of playing it to fit the DCEU but people would want what they’re used to more than likely,
#989
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
Fuck it, bring Bale back! I loved his Batman. I wanted him in BVS.
#990
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
I think bringing together Matt Reeves and Jake Gyllenhaal for yet another Batman reboot would be the smart choice. Gyllenhaal looked and acted a bit too young the previous times he's been considered for the role. Now, even with just a few extra years on him after BvS, he has the appearance of being more weathered and mature. Southpaw (and Prince of Persia) showed that he can beef up for a role, and he's obviously a dramatic chameleon, but I can see what his Bruce Wayne might look like in his performances in Enemy.
#992
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Gyllenhaal would bother me for the simple fact that his sister played his love interest in a previous incarnation of the character.
#993
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That's a pretty silly thing to be bothered about considering how many actors actually played different characters in other comic franchises.
#994
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
Yeah, I thought of Maggie in The Dark Knight too but that wouldn’t even cross my mind as a reason to not like that potential casting.
#995
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
Stooop A Nolan-Verse DC film won't work in this age of Comic Films. Why would anyone even entertain that? Ya'll bitched and moaned about DC's darkness, lack of fun, lack of shawarma jokes, and lack of bright colors. There was none of that in the Nolan-Trilogy. You want Hero Comedies. I doubt Nolan would lighten any of that shit up to make ya'll happy now.
Where DC fails for me is in their lack of vision and planning. It just feels like, at any minute, they're either going to scrap the whole thing or reboot.
#996
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Being darker and more serious in tone isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The problem at least with Batman V Superman is that it was just depressing. The whole film was dreary and dark and a lot of rain. Everyone on it seemed pissed off (other than the Looney Tunes version of Lex Luthor) and there was nothing about it that was really enjoyable. It felt like two and a half hours of murkiness. You can take a more serious/mature/dark or whatever you want to call it approach but balance it out a bit. Hell Logan is one of the darkest comic book films ever made and it manages to have moments of levity and even a nice color palette. It seems like WB learned their lesson a bit based on what I’ve heard about Justice League so at least there’s that.
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
I’m not feeling Gyllenhall, but then I haven’t seen some of his more recent dramatic work. I actually envision him more as a villain, maybe even Joker.
I’m willing to give him a shot if it means jettisoning Affleck.
I’m willing to give him a shot if it means jettisoning Affleck.
#999
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I think Gyllenhaal would be fine but he wouldn’t be my first choice. Honestly I’m not sure who I’d go with. In some ways I feel like the smarter move would be to go with a smaller name rather than replacing your big name star with another fairly big name star.
I sometimes feel like Bale gets overshadowed by the villains in his films (namely Ledger). I think he’s by far been the best at playing the dual roles of Bruce Wayne and Batman. Keaton is a close second. Affleck is good as Batman but I don’t think his Wayne is as strong.
I don't like the Nolan films but they were not successful because of Bale. People liked the writing and stories (god knows why) of the three films. Bale working with what Affleck has been given wouldn't have made a difference. And I don't see Nolan coming back for any amount of money.
#1000
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re: The Batman (2022, D: Matt Reeves) S: Pattinson
As far as Gylenhaal being cast is concerned I think he’ll be fine. My only issue would be that he seems a tad short to be playing Batman. Google says he’s 5’11 to Affleck’s 6’4!