Disney's Dumbo (2019, D: Burton) S: Farrell, Keaton, DeVito, Green, Parker, Hobbins
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And did you guys know that there's TWO Jungle Books coming soon?
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Given all the news about the Ringling Bros. circus promising to stop using elephants by 2018, it sounds to me like there's a real story there waiting to be told that has nothing to do with a little elephant with big ears that allow him to fly.
Better yet, go to Africa and tell a story about elephant herds being attacked by poachers.
There's lots of great elephant stories out there and none of them are anything like Dumbo.
Call it Dumbo, I don't care, but make it an interesting story about real elephants.
Oh, and leave Tim Burton out of the whole project.
Better yet, go to Africa and tell a story about elephant herds being attacked by poachers.
There's lots of great elephant stories out there and none of them are anything like Dumbo.
Call it Dumbo, I don't care, but make it an interesting story about real elephants.
Oh, and leave Tim Burton out of the whole project.
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The original is the first film I ever fell in love with. I'd watch it every day for close to a year before I went to PM kindergarten. I have no interest in a Burton reimagining. He's really become a lazy director for about a decade or so.
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Given all the news about the Ringling Bros. circus promising to stop using elephants by 2018, it sounds to me like there's a real story there waiting to be told that has nothing to do with a little elephant with big ears that allow him to fly.
Better yet, go to Africa and tell a story about elephant herds being attacked by poachers.
There's lots of great elephant stories out there and none of them are anything like Dumbo.
Call it Dumbo, I don't care, but make it an interesting story about real elephants.
Oh, and leave Tim Burton out of the whole project.
Better yet, go to Africa and tell a story about elephant herds being attacked by poachers.
There's lots of great elephant stories out there and none of them are anything like Dumbo.
Call it Dumbo, I don't care, but make it an interesting story about real elephants.
Oh, and leave Tim Burton out of the whole project.
I used to love the circus as a kid cuz... you're a kid and you like animals. Then you research shit and then a circus doesn't seem like a great thing anymore.
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Remember the successful Free Willy campaign for Keiko?
Now People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is urging director Tim Burton to give the baby circus elephant star of Disney's upcoming animated classic makeover Dumbo its own taste of freedom in the planned live-action film.
PETA on Wednesday urged the Big Eyes director to give a new ending for Dumbo where the big-eared circus performer is allowed to retire to a sanctuary.
"We're hopeful that in your adaptation of Dumbo, the young elephant and his mother can have a truly happy ending by living out their lives at a sanctuary instead of continuing to be imprisoned and abused in the entertainment industry," PETA senior vp Lisa Lange wrote Burton in an open letter.
The PETA call follows Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus choosing to phase out its iconic elephant acts. Disney's new Dumbo movie, to mix CGI and live action, is based on the classic 1941 film.
The script was penned by Transformers franchise writer Ehren Kruger. Lange, in her letter, added PETA likes the original Dumbo movie and storyline "because it tells the story of the heartbreaking abuse that elephants in circuses endure."
She adds elephants in film and TV shows, as in the circus, don't freely perform. They instead react to a bullhook, or a sharp weapon, used to control their movements.
"They [elephants] perform because they're afraid that they'll be beaten if they don't," Lange wrote, before wishing Burton gook luck while directing Dumbo for Disney.
Now People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is urging director Tim Burton to give the baby circus elephant star of Disney's upcoming animated classic makeover Dumbo its own taste of freedom in the planned live-action film.
PETA on Wednesday urged the Big Eyes director to give a new ending for Dumbo where the big-eared circus performer is allowed to retire to a sanctuary.
"We're hopeful that in your adaptation of Dumbo, the young elephant and his mother can have a truly happy ending by living out their lives at a sanctuary instead of continuing to be imprisoned and abused in the entertainment industry," PETA senior vp Lisa Lange wrote Burton in an open letter.
The PETA call follows Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus choosing to phase out its iconic elephant acts. Disney's new Dumbo movie, to mix CGI and live action, is based on the classic 1941 film.
The script was penned by Transformers franchise writer Ehren Kruger. Lange, in her letter, added PETA likes the original Dumbo movie and storyline "because it tells the story of the heartbreaking abuse that elephants in circuses endure."
She adds elephants in film and TV shows, as in the circus, don't freely perform. They instead react to a bullhook, or a sharp weapon, used to control their movements.
"They [elephants] perform because they're afraid that they'll be beaten if they don't," Lange wrote, before wishing Burton gook luck while directing Dumbo for Disney.
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wtf is peta asking for -- that the elephants playing dumbo and co. be put in a sanctuary afterwards or that in the movie, dumbo ends up in a sanctuary? which would need to be a cage since mofo can fly
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PETA shouldn't be worried about the fate of the elephants, they should be lobbying that no real elephants be used. In this day and age there is no reason to distress an animal to make a film.
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I also wonder what animals are we "ok" to use and what aren't. Dogs, cats, and horses seem to be fine but others probably dislike it even more. Fine in the US, here in the US. Not sure how other countries handle it.
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PETA? I try to be conscious of my surroundings and refuse to support terrorism. Will not watch.
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I like Burton. I didn't see Big Eyes yet but I generally like his movies. Sweeney Todd is probably the last movie of his I've watched a 2nd time (and the same coulda been said for Big Fish before) so I won't passionately defend something I've only seen once like "Alice" or "Dark Shadows" when they seem to be pretty much universally-hated. That said, "Apes" is the only movie in his filmography that I actually hate.
In all honesty, I can easily envision an interesting Burton-esque Dumbo adaptation and I can't say that I can realistically expect that. Going off five-year-old memories I can't honestly say we got the Wonderland-via-Burton I envisioned either.
In all honesty, I can easily envision an interesting Burton-esque Dumbo adaptation and I can't say that I can realistically expect that. Going off five-year-old memories I can't honestly say we got the Wonderland-via-Burton I envisioned either.
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This is something I've thought about a lot as I've grown older and more educated in how some film industries work. China is horrendous in how it has worked w/ animals. I can only imagine wtf happened to during Red Cliff, a damn fine film btw.
I also wonder what animals are we "ok" to use and what aren't. Dogs, cats, and horses seem to be fine but others probably dislike it even more. Fine in the US, here in the US. Not sure how other countries handle it.
I also wonder what animals are we "ok" to use and what aren't. Dogs, cats, and horses seem to be fine but others probably dislike it even more. Fine in the US, here in the US. Not sure how other countries handle it.
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Using animals to make a films is one thing, and it's reasonable, but I totally understand their devotion to making sure that if they are going to be used, they're going to be treated humanely. I'm not an animal lover of any kind, but I would never condone them being harmed for the sake of art. And yes, I do of course know that there are numerous examples throughout film history. It would also depend on the shot. CG can look bad, and there are some times when using real animals would probably look much better onscreen. Though I don't know of any elephants with giant ears that can fly. If an animal had do something dangerous, obviously I would hope that they would use CG. Though I'm sure that wouldn't stop audience members who wouldn't bat an eye at fake human suffering from crying if the digital animals died .
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Is having big ears an affliction because if so then just engrave Dumbo's name on that Oscar now.
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Yeah, the older I get the more I get bothered by animals in movies. I know cats and dogs somewhat enjoy interacting with humans, so as long as they're not put in harm's way I'm okay with that. Horses used to be treated pretty poorly, I'm glad there's somebody looking out for animals like this. No need to drag them into our cinematic follies unnecessarily.
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Yeah, even as a kid, I hated animal movies like Dumbo, Bmabi, Lady and the Tramp, etc.
Still hoping theyll have a live-action Snow White.
Still hoping theyll have a live-action Snow White.
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Yeah, the older I get the more I get bothered by animals in movies. I know cats and dogs somewhat enjoy interacting with humans, so as long as they're not put in harm's way I'm okay with that. Horses used to be treated pretty poorly, I'm glad there's somebody looking out for animals like this. No need to drag them into our cinematic follies unnecessarily.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Daytripper
"Alice in Wonderland" AND "Maleficent" were both terrible IMO. And while not based on a Disney animated film, I'd like to throw in "Oz: the Great and Powerful". SUCKED!
Care to expand other than telling me I'm wrong?
"Alice in Wonderland" AND "Maleficent" were both terrible IMO. And while not based on a Disney animated film, I'd like to throw in "Oz: the Great and Powerful". SUCKED!
Care to expand other than telling me I'm wrong?
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All those big ears jokes have led him to this...
http://deadline.com/2017/01/will-smi...fe-1201883196/
EXCLUSIVE: Disney is circling with Will Smith to star for director Tim Burton in Dumbo, the live-action adaptation of the classic 1941 animated film. The studio is moving aggressively toward a production start with a script by Ehren Kruger about the big-eared, lovable elephant. This is an intriguing family film option for Smith, who is also working toward a start date with Sony Pictures on Bad Boys For Life, a reteam with Martin Lawrence which has Joe Carnahan directing his script.
A number of hurdles would have to be overcome here, but the Disney live-action transfer of its animation library has generated the kind of hits that are good for any star’s resume. Smith, whose latest film, Collateral Beauty, opened in the holiday onslaught and didn’t connect with audiences, would be joining Burton, whose last fairy tale adaptation Alice In Wonderland grossed $1.02 billion (Burton didn’t direct the sequel misfire)
Smith would join a parade of big stars who’ve starred in these Disney films, who have included Angelina Jolie in Maleficent, Johnny Depp in Alice, with Emma Stone to star as 101 Dalmations villainess Cruella De Ville and Dwayne Johnson aligned with Jungle Cruise. Stay tuned on this.
Smith has been shooting Bright, the Max Landis-scripted, David Ayer-directed Netflix film he stars in with Joel Edgerton.
A number of hurdles would have to be overcome here, but the Disney live-action transfer of its animation library has generated the kind of hits that are good for any star’s resume. Smith, whose latest film, Collateral Beauty, opened in the holiday onslaught and didn’t connect with audiences, would be joining Burton, whose last fairy tale adaptation Alice In Wonderland grossed $1.02 billion (Burton didn’t direct the sequel misfire)
Smith would join a parade of big stars who’ve starred in these Disney films, who have included Angelina Jolie in Maleficent, Johnny Depp in Alice, with Emma Stone to star as 101 Dalmations villainess Cruella De Ville and Dwayne Johnson aligned with Jungle Cruise. Stay tuned on this.
Smith has been shooting Bright, the Max Landis-scripted, David Ayer-directed Netflix film he stars in with Joel Edgerton.