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Solid Snake 10-30-14 11:36 AM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
I've no idea who I'd want for this.

I still wonder if this film will piss off some white people cuz of the title. Even though he himself is a bit older than the group call black panthers.

superdeluxe 10-30-14 11:42 AM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286663)
I've no idea who I'd want for this.

I still wonder if this film will piss off some white people cuz of the title. Even though he himself is a bit older than the group call black panthers.

Yeah, but I think your demo is not really going to have an issue with it.

Solid Snake 10-30-14 11:59 AM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
I want an hispanic hero. There have been some but none that are memorable really in the 616. Miles Morales was cool to see come up in the Ultimate Spider-Man issues. It is kind of neat that the most recent Nova is an hispanic kid. I remember as a kid I'd get happy seeing an hispanic superhero in the Marvel Universe. As any minority in the US or even anywhere, I guess, it does affect you in a way seeing how a certain population is depicted. Race and gender in the media is a very interesting topic.

I got Danny Trejo as Machete. Which I love but if we get to brass tacks. We do need more positive imagery for blacks and hispanics along with others.

Giantrobo 10-30-14 01:49 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286704)
I want an hispanic hero. There have been some but none that are memorable really in the 616. Miles Morales was cool to see come up in the Ultimate Spider-Man issues. It is kind of neat that the most recent Nova is an hispanic kid.<b> I remember as a kid I'd get happy seeing an hispanic superhero in the Marvel Universe. As any minority in the US or even anywhere, I guess, it does affect you in a way seeing how a certain population is depicted.</b> Race and gender in the media is a very interesting topic.

I got Danny Trejo as Machete. Which I love but if we get to brass tacks. We do need more positive imagery for blacks and hispanics along with others.

Exactly! :up:


Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286704)
Race and gender in the media is a very interesting topic.

Not on DVDtal<b>KKK</b>. :(

devilshalo 10-30-14 01:56 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286704)
I want an hispanic hero. There have been some but none that are memorable really in the 616. Miles Morales was cool to see come up in the Ultimate Spider-Man issues. It is kind of neat that the most recent Nova is an hispanic kid. I remember as a kid I'd get happy seeing an hispanic superhero in the Marvel Universe. As any minority in the US or even anywhere, I guess, it does affect you in a way seeing how a certain population is depicted. Race and gender in the media is a very interesting topic.

I got Danny Trejo as Machete. Which I love but if we get to brass tacks. We do need more positive imagery for blacks and hispanics along with others.

Sunspot in DoFP wasn't enough for you?

Solid Snake 10-30-14 01:58 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
Never!

I'd be excited to see wtf the MCU would choose as an hispanic Hero. I remember as a kid seeing Firebird in an old issue from the Avenger comics from the 1980s. That was the first hispanic hero I had ever seen and it was cool. There have been some here and there but none really "big" profile. Like one that actually is a mainstay of sorts. Nova and Ultimate Spidey are them for now. Diversity is a big deal and Marvel is doing good for it so far.

GoldenJCJ 10-30-14 02:00 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
In Hollywood, there can only be one successful black actor at at time! We had Richard Pryor, then Eddie Murphy, then Will Smith, now Kevin Hart! Whoever gets the role in Black Panther will need to replace Hart. No more than one at a time. More than one is just too intimidating for white America!

Solid Snake 10-30-14 02:09 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
We already have an actor for Black Panther...

Giantrobo 10-30-14 02:17 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 12286863)
In Hollywood, there can only be one successful black actor at at time! We had Richard Pryor, then Eddie Murphy, then Will Smith, now Kevin Hart! Whoever gets the role in Black Panther will need to replace Hart. No more than one at a time. More than one is just too intimidating for white America!

:lol:

...TRUE :(

PhantomStranger 10-30-14 02:31 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286704)
I want an hispanic hero. There have been some but none that are memorable really in the 616. Miles Morales was cool to see come up in the Ultimate Spider-Man issues. It is kind of neat that the most recent Nova is an hispanic kid. I remember as a kid I'd get happy seeing an hispanic superhero in the Marvel Universe. As any minority in the US or even anywhere, I guess, it does affect you in a way seeing how a certain population is depicted. Race and gender in the media is a very interesting topic.

I got Danny Trejo as Machete. Which I love but if we get to brass tacks. We do need more positive imagery for blacks and hispanics along with others.

The current Blue Beetle is Hispanic, Jaime Reyes.

Solid Snake 10-30-14 02:43 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
yeah. I'm just focusing on Marvel here. I think DC has had more memorable hispanic heroes than Marvel, no?

Obi-Wanma 10-30-14 02:56 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286924)
yeah. I'm just focusing on Marvel here. I think DC has had more memorable hispanic heroes than Marvel, no?

http://marvel.wikia.com/Category:His...ino_Characters

This is presumably both heroes and villains, and I count 42 of them in the 616, but yeah, really not many of note, outside of some fringe X-characters

Preterite 10-30-14 03:00 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
Off the top of my head, Marvel has Firebird, White Tiger 1 (RIP), Whiter Tiger 2, Arana, el Aguila from the old Power Man/Iron Fist series, and the current Tarantula. (I say "current", but I don't read many funnybooks these days and the last guy might have already been replaced/revillainized. He was pretty cool in the Shadowland-era Daredevil series, though.)

DC has Blue Beetle and Vibe. Vibe is infamous, which means "more than famous". Renee Montoya was the Question until the Nu52 reestablished DC as a safe space for white heterosexual males. There was also Wildcat 2, but by now she has probably been raped to death in some godforsaken comic or other.

Solid Snake 10-30-14 03:07 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
Yeah. Tarantula was solid in the DD series around that time. Maya Lopez was cool too. Dunno why Marvel never made a big hero out of an hispanic character. We've had a good amount of great black heroes but the hispanic ones never became big. it didn't help that a lot of them had generic nature to them even with their name.

fumanstan 10-30-14 03:07 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
Needs more Asians! :( The one good one Psylocke has the mind of a white British woman :(

davidh777 10-30-14 03:11 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
Black Panther was a fifth or sixth or seventh wheel with the Avengers, but I always liked him, and it was interesting when his stories were set in Wakanda. As Snake said, not something we usually see.

Solid Snake 10-30-14 03:14 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
marvel has more memorable asians as well. Can't think of DC, I know they have some.

What excites me about Black Panther is that his world is so unlike what we think of Africa. Wakanda is wildly advanced in so many ways compared any other country in Marvel. It isn't the Africa we typically think. He's a wildly unique character but also very cultural for the positive. Off the top of my head he may be the best African born hero. Marvel has done good with their black heroes. Luke Cage, T'Challa, Falcon, War Machine, Storm, etc.

Ironically, Panther was created by a white guy. Jack Kirby... and those were fucking awesome stories.

superdeluxe 10-30-14 03:19 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286858)
Never!

I'd be excited to see wtf the MCU would choose as an hispanic Hero. I remember as a kid seeing Firebird in an old issue from the Avenger comics from the 1980s. That was the first hispanic hero I had ever seen and it was cool. There have been some here and there but none really "big" profile. Like one that actually is a mainstay of sorts. Nova and Ultimate Spidey are them for now. Diversity is a big deal and Marvel is doing good for it so far.

Solve the Asian issue & add another female by adding Mantis to GOTG.

superdeluxe 10-30-14 03:20 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 12286957)
Needs more Asians! :( The one good one Psylocke has the mind of a white British woman :(

Mantis is coming. I hope

Solid Snake 10-30-14 03:21 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
All I got in the MCU Michael Peña in Ant-Man. I GUESS I'll take that. Fucking love his work.

Preterite 10-30-14 03:34 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 12286957)
Needs more Asians! :( The one good one Psylocke has the mind of a white British woman :(

Truly, she is the ultimate weeaboo.

Considering how kung fu/ninja crazy superhero comics can be, there are surprisingly few Asian "headliners". Shang-Chi and Sunfire on the Marvel end, Ryan Choi and mebbe Dr. Light II on the DC side. Karate Kid, depending on who's drawing him. Big Hero 6 are all Japanese, I guess, until the comics catch up with the movie's white-washing.

Doug Monech's Master of Kung Fu run was crazy good and it's a shame copyright issues have prevented it from ever being reprinted. Even the long letter column discussions about Asian portrayals in the media between Monech and Bill Wu were pretty interesting to me as a kid.

(Which reminds me of the late, great Dwayne McDuffie's afterword in the Marvel Masterworks collection of Don McGregor's incredible Black Panther run, which echos what folks here have been saying about young kids seeing representations of people like themselves as heroes.)


Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286977)
All I got in the MCU Michael Peña in Ant-Man. I GUESS I'll take that. Fucking love his work.

We'll always have el Santo.

Solid Snake 10-30-14 03:46 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
The Ancient One is Chinese. Considering Cage and Rand are getting their own little series.... Shang Chi might pop up.

I really wish we got Sunfire doing his thing in an X film.

GoldenJCJ 10-30-14 05:24 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286873)
We already have an actor for Black Panther...

So long, Kevin Hart. :(

devilshalo 10-30-14 05:42 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12286969)
What excites me about Black Panther is that his world is so unlike what we think of Africa. Wakanda is wildly advanced in so many ways compared any other country in Marvel. It isn't the Africa we typically think.

You mean like Zamunda?

DaveyJoe 10-30-14 06:30 PM

re: Black Panther (7/6/18) S: Chadwick Boseman
 
I'm 100% behind doing Miles Morales Spider-Man movies. It's the best way to move that franchise in a new direction, with new talent involved, without doing yet another reboot. Before people come in and bitch about how iconic Peter Parker is... we've had five Peter Parker Spider-Man movies, and the last three sucked, let's try something new.


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