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Supermallet 08-20-14 08:36 PM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 
I'm guessing this makes Adaptation simultaneously the best and worst film in the history of cinema.

duff beer 08-20-14 08:42 PM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 
Hmmmmmmmmmm. Hmmmmmmmmmm.

Abob Teff 08-20-14 08:44 PM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 12206416)
Hey look, duff beer created a thread that is completely nonsensical, this is new!

In his defense ... I read the initial post and I understood it. Give the guy some props!

majorjoe23 08-20-14 09:35 PM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 

Originally Posted by Abob Teff (Post 12206604)
In his defense ... I read the initial post and I understood it. Give the guy some props!

Don't worry sir, an ambulance is on its way. Many people make a full recovery after having a stroke.

joliom 08-20-14 11:36 PM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 
How is a director making a film from someone else's original screenplay any different than adapting a book/play/short story/comic, etc. into a film? By that logic, 95% of all cinema has "no credence as pure cinema." Also, as others have rightly pointed out, there really aren't any original stories when you get right down to it - just new twists on familiar existing ones.

hanshotfirst1138 08-21-14 07:11 AM

Tarantino actually said something similar when he was on Charlie Rose about the difference between starting with a blank page vs. an adaptation, and his stronger creative admiration for the former. At the very least, I think it explains why he's not a fan of John Huston. Personally, I don't buy it; interpreting or reinterpreting someone doesn't make you any less of an artist in my eyes, not in the least because it invalidates Kubick, Huston, and God knows how many other geniuses.

Jaymole 08-21-14 08:41 AM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 12206456)
I guess this eliminates the perfection of Stanley Kubrick's films (all adaptations).

I know that 2001: A Space Odyssey was only partially adapted from Clarke's short story "The Sentinel". The novel was written at the same time the film was being developed....so the movie is only half crap

joliom 08-21-14 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12206890)
Personally, I don't buy it; interpreting or reinterpreting some doesn't make you any less of an artist in my eyes, not in the least because it invalidates Kubick, Huston, and God knows how many other geniuses.

Yeah, like all of these guys:

Cecil B. DeMille
Fritz Lang
John Ford
John Huston
Alfred Hitchcock
Frank Capra
Howard Hawks
Victor Fleming
George Cukor
Joseph L. Mankiewicz
William Wyler
Jean Renoir
Luis Bunuel
Orson Welles
Billy Wilder
David Lean
Elia Kazan
Otto Preminger
Yasujiro Ozu
Akira Kurosawa
Henri-Georges Clouzot
Ingmar Bergman
Jean-Luc Godard
Francois Truffaut
Federico Fellini
Stanley Kubrick
Arthur Penn
Don Siegel
Sergio Leone
Sam Peckinpah
Robert Altman
Roman Polanski
William Friedkin
Steven Spielberg
Peter Weir
Martin Scorsese
Terrence Malick
David Cronenberg
David Lynch
Wes Craven
John Carpenter
Ridley Scott
Michael Mann
Oliver Stone
Joel Coen
Tim Burton
Peter Jackson
Ang Lee
Yimou Zhang
Quentin Tarantino
Christopher Nolan

GoldenJCJ 08-21-14 10:29 AM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12206890)
Tarantino actually said something similar when he was on Charlie Rose about the difference between starting with a blank page vs. an adaptation, and his create admiration for the former. At the very least, I think it explains why he's not a fan of John Huston. Personally, I don't buy it; interpreting or reinterpreting someone doesn't make you any less of an artist in my eyes, not in the least because it invalidates Kubick, Huston, and God knows how many other geniuses.

I'm not sure I buy it either. Technically they ALL start out as a blank page, it just includes one more step in the filmmaking process. When Mario Puzo sat down to write The Godfather he started on a blank page. Unless Tarantino insists on no additional help what-so-ever (which is never the case in filmmaking, even for Tarantino) it's kind of a non-issue.

Coral 08-21-14 10:39 AM

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Being an adaptation doesn't exclude Godfather from being perfect. There are other reasons why Godfather isn't perfect.

Guru Askew 08-21-14 10:40 AM

Re: Godfather is not perfect because it is an adaptation
 
The line between adaptation and original work on The Godfather is fuzzy at best. Paramount Pictures financed Mario Puzo when he was writing it. They basically developed the novel like you would with a screenplay. There are even instances of Paramount's influence present in the original novel like Michael's physical description which would have allowed a fair-skinned/haired actor like Robert Redford to play the part.

So yeah, end of thread.

Solid Snake 08-21-14 11:08 AM

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Ohhhhhhhhh snap.

Mr. Salty 08-21-14 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 12206461)
This thread was obviously a response to people pointing out that James Cameron was sued for plagiarism over The Terminator, and that he had to insert an acknowledgement to Harlan Ellison.

So, in a way, this thread is an adaptation of that discussion. That makes this thread crap.

Groucho 08-21-14 11:50 AM

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Considering that there are two personal attacks in the first four posts, I don't see a reason for this to stay open.


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