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Old 01-26-23, 09:46 PM
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Obviously there's nothing wrong with showcasing lesser heroes. I'm just saying Gunn can't kick off this shiny new universe with a Black Canary or Mister Mxyzptlk as your leadfeature. He needs to kick this off with a bang that puts asses in seats.
That's why he's starting with Superman. However, despite what's been interpreted as a not-so-veiled jab at Cavill being hard to work with, he's got an uphill battle at present since the general audience, Snyder fans, and the anti-Snyder crowd seem to be united in wanting Cavill back as Superman. He really needs to nail the recasting and script for the new flick in order to stave further backlash and a potential bomb. That's why I hope Gunn disconnects from social media and simply focuses on the task at hand.
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There’s 5 days left this month, I wonder when Gunn is going to announce his first DC projects. He promised something in January.
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There’s 5 days left this month, I wonder when Gunn is going to announce his first DC projects. He promised something in January.
Friday night news dump!
Old 01-27-23, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DJariya
There’s 5 days left this month, I wonder when Gunn is going to announce his first DC projects. He promised something in January.
The last update was that the announcement is only to be a partial announcement.

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In all fairness, he's been busy defending his cat's honour.
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Sounds like there is a private event tonight to give details and the embargo lifts tomorrow.
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Well, here's hoping the news is not underwhelming (or a reworded regurgitation of what we already know, like yesterday's Waller "announcement").
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Probably by early morning tomorrow, all the major trades will be tweeting and posting their write ups on the event. I'm sure there is going to be a lot of mixed opinions about it.
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I'm sure there is going to be a lot of mixed opinions about it.
Undoubtedly. I just hope it's a full reboot, like Bautista claimed.
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Looks like the DC embargo will lift at Noon eastern.
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I am quite surprised nothing concrete has leaked by now. If nothing else, Gunn and Safran are good at keeping a lid on things.
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In the midst of their third month as newly appointed DC co-Bosses, James Gunn and Peter Safran finally revealed their plans for an inter-connective universe for the comic book giant spanning largely film and TV in a strategy unlike the Warner Bros. brand has ever had before.

Entitled Chapter One, “Gods and Monsters”, a portion of what will unfold between 2025-2027 includes five movies including the Gunn-penned Superman Legacy, a new Batman and Robin title, The Brave and the Bold, a Swamp Thing feature, and films centering around Supergirl and the deeper universe DC rogue squad The Authority. On the TV side, there’s an animated series, Creature Commandos written by Gunn, the Peacemaker spinoff live action series Waller with Viola Davis, a Lanterns series, Booster Gold and Paradise Lost.

Outside of Waller, which has some of the returning cast of Peacemaker, there isn’t any talent or directors attached to these projects.

Safran and Gunn conceived their grand design with an assembled writers room who riffed off the latter’s basic ideas, that group including Christina Hodson, Jeremy Slater, Drew Goddard, Christal Henry and Tom King.

Jump below to read the details on each project.

Overall the gameplan is two movies a year, and two series for HBO Max in what is an eight to ten year plan.

It might seem like it’s all deep, deep universe stuff, straying from the core Batman and Superman of it all, but there’s a method to Gunn and Safran’s madness.

“One of our strategies is that we take our diamond characters — Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman– and we use that to help prop up other characters that people don’t know. Like what happened with the Guardians (of the Galaxy) in some way. Like taking teams like The Authority, which is I know is just as spectacular idea for a film that is completely different take on superheroes. Because it’s really connected to Superman. It’s about to use those well-known properties to help lead into lesser known properties,” says Gunn.

“We’re going to promise that everything from our first project forward is going to be unified,” said Gunn.

“But we’ve gotten very lucky for the next four projects,” added the filmmaker on the slate that was previously shepherded by former DC boss Walter Hamada.

Those being Shazam! Fury of the Gods (March 17), The Flash (June 16) the latter which Gunn says “resets everything.”

“I will say here that Flash is probably one of the greatest superhero movies ever made,” Gunn added.

Then wiping away any doubt about the future of Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman, Jason Momoa’s Aquaman, and Zachary Levi’s Shazam, Safran emphasized, “These four movies are terrific. There’s no reason why any of the characters or the actors that play in those characters are not part of the DCU. There’s nothing that prohibits that from happening.”

“We’ll incorporate characters from the past, but mostly we’ll cast anew,” added the producer of Aquaman and Suicide Squad.

Ditto for the creators of these recent projects. Gunn and Safran would love to reteam with Flash filmmaker Andy Muschietti. Currently James Wan is focusing on finishing Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

Then there’s Blue Beetle on Aug. 18 “that sort of has it’s own world and fits in directly into our DCU” followed by Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom on Christmas Day which leads into the universe that Gunn and Safran are mapping out.

“As everyone here probably knows, the history of DC is pretty messed up. There is the Arrowverse. There as the DC EU which then split became the Joss Whedon Justice League at one point, became the Snyder-verse at the other point. There was Superman and Lois, there’s the Reeves-verse. There’s all these different things,” Gunn said at the top of the session.

“Even us, we came in and did Suicide Squad and that became Peacemaker and all of a sudden Bat-mite is real guy that’s never been set up,” said the Guardians of the Galaxy filmmaker and Marvel Studios vet.

“No one was minding the mint,” Gunn criticized, “they were just giving away IP like they were party favors to any creators that smiled to them.”

What of Todd Phillips’ sequel Joker: Folie a Deux and Matt Reeves’ Batman sequel and HBO Max Penguin series? As previously reported, Safran confirmed that such veers from his and Gunn’s plan will be “labeled clearly as DC-Elseworlds, just like the comics do.” Also still in the works? J.J. Abrams’ Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Black Superman project. A draft is being waited upon.

“The bar is going to be very high for projects outside of the DCU,” asserted Safran.

Winking at the history of previous DC films, read David Ayer’s Suicide Squad and Snyder/Whedon’s Justice League, productions where known for their reshoots, Gunn promised, “People have become beholden to dates, to holding dates, to getting movies made no matter what. At the end of the day, I’m a writer at my heart, and we’re not going to be making movies before the screenplay is finished. And if that means our plan has to shift a little bit–it’s going to happen, we know it’s going to happen…we’re not going to be making movies and putting hundreds of millions of dollars in a film where a screenplay is only two-thirds of the way done and we have to finish it while we’re making the movie. I’ve seen it happen again and again, and it’s a mess. I think it’s the primary reason for the deterioration in the quality of films today versus 30 years ago.” Gunn mentioned how on Suicide Squad he did no reshoots, and on Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 he did a day of picking up “and it’s because of having screenplays prepared before we shoot. I don’t want to get into this massive spending of hundreds of millions of dollars on reshoots.”

The TV and film projects in the first portion of Gunn and Safran’s “Gods and Monsters” includes

Creature Commandos – animated TV series. “Animation will lead into live action and back into animation,” said Gunn. “It’s a way to tell stories that are gigantic and huge without spending $50M an episode. Gunn has written this, it’s done. Creature Commandos is comprised of military superhumans including a human leader, a werewolf, a vampire, Frankenstein’s monster and a gorgon. Gunn pointed out that Weasel from his Suicide Squad will be on the show. This band of misfits were introduced in Weird War Tales #93 (November 1980), created by J. M. DeMatteis and Pat Broderick.
SUICIDE SQUAD, Viola Davis, 2016. ph: Clay Enos / © Warner Bros. / courtesy Everett Collection

Waller HBO Max live action series, the spinoff of Peacemaker. “We’re using the same actors, this is a continuation of Peacemaker. I’m working on Superman, so we can’t do Peacemaker season 2. We’re working on Waller in between,” Gunn told the room. Christal Henry (Watchmen) is writing the show and Jeremy Carver (creator of Doom Patrol). While none of the features aren’t rated R, the TV series could lean into being more adult.

Superman Legacy feature “This is really the start of the DCU,” says Safran. The project was already announced by the duo Gunn writing. No director attached, but Safran was elbowing Gunn yesterday that he’d really like him to helm. The release date is July 11, 2025. “It’s not an origins story, it focuses on Superman’s balancing his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing. He’s the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way, he’s kindness in a world that thinks of kindness as old fashioned.”

Lanterns HBO Max live action series. “Our vision for this is True Detective,” Safran says, “It’s terrestrial-based, it’s got two of our favorite Green Lanterns –Hal Jordan and John Stewart…it plays a really big role in the main story that we’re telling across our film and Television. This is a very important show for us.” Safran specified that this version is different from one that Greg Berlanti had in the works; the latter’s being a space opera.

The Authority feature. “There’s great wildstorm characters that were popular for a long-time and we’re incorporating them into the DCU,” says Gunn. He loves the property because it’s a mix of antiheroes, who take matters into their own hands despite what governments advise. A basic story is being written out. The Authority was created after StormWatch, a planetary defense force against aliens, was destroyed. The former member of that group, Jenny Sparks, created the Authority with her StormWatch Black teammates Swift and Jack Hawksmoor. The team includes The Engineer (Angela Spica), Jeroen Thornedike (the latest Doctor), Apollo and Midnighter.

Paradise Lost — HBO Max live action series. “It’s going to be a Games of Thrones-ish story about Themyscira, the home of the Amazons and the birthplace of Wonder Woman. This drama is really about the political intrigue behind the society of all women. How did that come about?” says Safran. “What’s the beautiful truths and the ugly truths behind all of that and what’s the scheming like between all the power players in that society?” adds Gunn. The series will take place before the birth of Diana (aka Wonder Woman).

The Brave and the Bold feature This will be Gunn and Safran’s version of the DCU Batman outside what Matt Reeves already created. The movie will feature Batman and his son, Damien Wayne, as Robin “who is a little son of a bitch,” bills Gunn. “Assassin, murderer who Batman takes on, who is Batman’s actual son that he doesn’t know exists for the first 8-10 years of his life….it’s a strange father and son story about the two of them and based on Grant Morrison’s run of the Batman.”

Gunn said that Reeves’ Batman 2 script is still in the works and once that comes to fruition “it’s something we’ll have to balance out with this movie.” The duo revealed that Reeves’ Batman II will be Oct. 3, 2025. While Robert Pattinson is the Dark Knight for Reeves, Gunn and Safran will be seeking a new actor to play Batman for The Brave and the Bold. While they floated Ben Affleck’s name again as a director in the DCU, they didn’t name him for a project.

Booster Gold HBO Max TV series is about a loser from the future, who uses future technology to come back to today, and pretend to be a superhero. “Imposter syndrome as a superhero,” describes Gunn.

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow feature based on Tom King’s comic book series from 2022. “In our series we see the difference between Superman who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents from the time he was an infant, versus Supergirl who was raised on a rock, a chip off Krypton, and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life, and then came to Earth when she was a young girl. She’s much more hardcore, she’s not exactly the Supergirl we’re use to seeing.”
SWAMP THING, Dick Durock, 1982, ©Embassy Pictures/courtesy Everett Collection

Swamp Thing feature will investigate the dark origins of the creature. Tonally, different from Superman and Batman and Robin. The belief here from the duo is that darker character will interact with the mainstream DC characters. There was a Swamp Thing movie back in 1982 starring Adrienne Barbeau, which also spawned a 1989 sequel. Then there was a 2019 CW series.

Some rules that the duo will abide by in creating their universe:

–Anyone cast on the DC TV side as a character will also respectively play that character on the film side.

–No one actor will play two parts. Hence, Momoa is Aquaman going forward, not Lobo.

What does the thrifty, cost-cutting Warner Discovery CEO David Zaslav think of this plan? Will he go cheap on DC?

Not so per Safran. “Their investment in content creation is huge,” says the DC co-Boss, “There’s no question we have the resources.”

“We’re going to put these scripts together, get our directors and then discuss with Zaslav what the appropriate spend is on each of these. I have zero doubt that they will commit appropriate funds on each one,” asserted the Conjuring franchise producer.

“Stakes are enormous,” adds Safran, “It was a brand in chaos and it’s an opportunity to build an extraordinary standalone studio with the best IP and the best stories in the world.”
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On one hand, to a more cohesive universe
On the other hand, to the starting point for this
However, I will say I have the utmost faith in Gunn to pull this off.
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Originally Posted by Deftones
On one hand, to a more cohesive universe
On the other hand, to the starting point for this
However, I will say I have the utmost faith in Gunn to pull this off.
I agree. I was a bit underwhelmed... but reserve judgement until seeing anything.
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I will say I appreciate greatly they are also focused on TV. Movies are great, but at 2 a year, that is basically nothing. Having ongoing TV stuff keeps their product fresh in people's minds..
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Also underwhelmed but I'm thinking, for me, I've finally hit some superhero burnout. If the genre was sidelined for a bit I'd be fine with that.

Butttt of course I'm in for DCU.
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I’m good with that slate. I’m glad to be getting a version of Batman that includes Robin. I’d prefer a different version of Robin aside from Damian though as that’s skipping a lot of history. I suppose you can have Nightwing show up and maybe Red Hood and Red Robin.

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This likely means that Superman and Lois is dead after its third season finishes. Especially since Gunn said he wants the same actors to play the characters in TV and Film.
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Originally Posted by DJariya
This likely means that Superman and Lois is dead after its third season finishes. Especially since Gunn said he wants the same actors to play the characters in TV and Film.
“Superman & Lois” is expected to continue for “one to two more seasons” according to DC Studios heads James Gunn and Peter Safran. Gunn said, “It’s a show everybody likes, so it’s going to keep going for a little bit.”
Makes sense. WB wants superman out there, so keeping it on bridges the gap before the movie.

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Great glad to hear that. I really like that show.
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While I like the variety, it's an interesting way to introduce a lot of these new heroes and stories. I mean do we really need any of the Wildstorm titles when there's still a lot of DC titles to mine?
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Makes sense. WB wants superman out there, so keeping it on bridges the gap before the movie.
That's actually a pretty decent thing to do. The film wouldn't be out for another two years, so let them continue working on the show until it is.
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I liked this quote from Gunn
“We didn’t fire Henry. Henry was never cast. He was in a cameo, and that was the end of his story. A lot of people made assumptions which weren’t true, but for me, it’s about who do I want to cast as Superman and who do the filmmakers want to cast. For me, for this story, it isn’t Henry. I like Henry. He’s a great guy. I think hes gotten d–ked around by a lot of people, including former regimes of this company. But this Superman isn’t Henry for a number of reasons”
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Apparently Gunn had no comment on the future of Gotham Knights. That’s a great vote of confidence.

If I were the producers, writers and actors, I’d start looking for new jobs now.

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