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Re: Future DC Studios projects discussion thread - News, rumors, etc.
Challengers of the Unknown: The Movie -- led by Mr. Terrific, with The Atom, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Firestorm, Geo-Force, Red Tornado, Bumblebee, Tim Hunter, Red Robin/Tim Drake, and Dolphin.
Investigating scientific anomalies all over the DCU. Fuck the movie. Make it an ongoing HBO Max show but firmly set in Gunn's DCU. |
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Love the team you've enviisioned but I'd also like some adventures set in the Golden Age. Or pull a The Godfather: Part II but have the timeline hoping converge in one major storyline. Like mystery the GA team couldn't solve (or assumed was solved) that necessitates the MA team to retrace their predecessors' steps. Maybe get someone like James Rollins to write the story.
On a slightly different subject, what's up with Ted Kord in the Blue Beetle movie? Did they seriously re-imagine him as some villainous woman, or is Victoria Kord a new addition to the comics? Cos I can't find anything on her. |
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Would be cool if the cut did eventually see the light of day.
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Although not as heavily supported as the Snyder Cut, the Ayer Cut has amassed quite a following. What has leaked so far is interesting and I do look forward to seeing Mayer's true vision see the light of day.
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Part of me wonders how different the Ayer Cut actually is. I’m sure it is different but I kind of feel like it wouldn’t be as vastly different as the Snyder Cut and might be more or less the same film just edited differently. Maybe I’m wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Mike86
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Part of me wonders how different the Ayer Cut actually is. I’m sure it is different but I kind of feel like it wouldn’t be as vastly different as the Snyder Cut and might be more or less the same film just edited differently. Maybe I’m wrong though.
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SS's biggest problem was the villain, so unless they change that the movie is still going to fall flat no matter what the other changes are.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
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SS's biggest problem was the villain
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
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SS's biggest problem was the villain, so unless they change that the movie is still going to fall flat no matter what the other changes are.
Today I finished watching all the DCEU films I own on home video (I never got JL '17 and BA isn't out on disc yet). As a whole, the DCEU is as disconnected as Phase 4 of the MCU. Sure they exist in the same universe and make occasional references to each other and past events, but they may as well all be as disconnected as Joker and The Batman. And what's up with use of real DC merchandise and comics in Shazam! and Black Adam? It was cute in the former but the joke feels worn and out of place in the latter. At the very least, they should have pulled a Logan and made fake comic books that would be inspired by the in movie super heroes. |
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
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I remember Ayer stating that he considers Waller the main villain of his cut. Personally, I wish they'd stuck to Steppenwolf pulling the strings. I t would have helped things feel a bit cohesive.
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The Suicide Squad should be an asset Waller has to her disposal, for jobs superheroes with morals wouldn't do. In my opinion both movies failed in that regard, although Gunn's movie was a lot of fun.
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Originally Posted by Runaway
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The Suicide Squad should be an asset Waller has to her disposal, for jobs superheroes with morals wouldn't do. In my opinion both movies failed in that regard, although Gunn's movie was a lot of fun.
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Thats how the DCEU shouldve been handled from the very beginning. 👏👏👏👏
Looking forward to the future. |
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Cavill and Gadot better not be out.
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They have a difficult way ahead of them. Starting from scratch isn't a real option. Aquaman and The Flash are coming and have spawned in the Snyderverse. I'd be surprised if they scratch Wonder Woman III, even if they didn't like Jenkins' treatment. Henry Cavill is coming back and Black Adam is out there and Shazam II on the starting block. The Batman is a success, the Penguin show still a go and everybody loved Peacemaker, while Blue Beetle is being shot.
So whatever they are planing, it's not happening in a vacuum. |
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As usual, people... MANY SO CALLED DC "FANS" in particular...are so ready to see DC Fall under the new Leadership. They jump ahead of themselves with bullshit half info and "insider" horseshit. I'm so glad Gunn is setting the narrative straight.
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Originally Posted by Maxflier
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Cavill and Gadot better not be out.
As we have seen with other well-known comic book characters over the years, with both Marvel and DC, good actors can jump in and out as long as they are cast and written well. I look forward to a complete shakeup and hope that both are out. Nuke the site from orbit. Only way to be sure. |
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I can see there being a better or at least comparable Wonder Woman, but Cavill IS Superman.
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Yesterday’s DC chaos about the unplugging of Patty Jenkins’ version of Wonder Woman 3 coupled with rampant rumors of the studio’s new co-heads James Gunn and Peter Safran turning the comic book label upside down sans a Henry Cavill Man of Steel 2 and possible re-casting of many current big superhero roles has left the town with a bad case of PTSD. The lack of communication to talent reps and content creators by the studio about what’s next in the DC empire, as Gunn and Safran map it out, has brought back bad flashbacks of when former WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar surprised and alienated Hollywood with his project popcorn theatrical day-and-date plan, and even Disney CEO Bob Chapek’s war with Scarlett Johansson over Black Widow. “This is creating a riot,” says one content maker connected to DC fare about the level of silence they’ve received on the fate of their DC projects going forward, “And it’s a horrible optic. This business is based on relationships.” When it comes to the rumors out there that core DC superhero castmembers Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Jason Momoa (Aquaman), and Henry Cavill (Superman) may be recast as the Gunn-Safran administration creates a synergistic plan for the DC brand across all mediums, our source says, “These franchises which already make a lot of money, why stop them? How can a studio that’s bearing so much debt afford to start from scratch? There are scripts and actors’ schedules to be figured out.” Those three actors including Black Adam‘s Dwayne Johnson are repped by WME, and a complete turnover of DC stars by Warners would put them in check to a big agency. No one is getting ready to go to war ala CAA/Disney with Johansson. Despite everyone currently playing nice, an anxiousness lurks. On the other hand, we hear that WME-repped Flash director Andy Muschietti and Indiana Jones director James Mangold are excited to do business with the Gunn-Safran led studio. Gunn sought to ease agita today in a multi-Twitter post acknowledging “the fractious environment” he and Safran are walking into, and that “there would be an unavoidable transitional period as we moved into telling a cohesive story across film, TV, animation, and gaming.” While it’s an understatement to say change is never easy, the arrival of Gunn and Safran to DC is akin to any major boss taking over a studio, or a football coach taking over a team. They’re going to bring their own vision and more likely then not, history will be re-written. Give the guys some credit: They’re setting out to make a more cohesive franchise like Marvel. “We know we are not going to make every single person happy every step of the way, but we can promise everything we do is done in the service of the STORY & in the service of the DC CHARACTERS we know you cherish and we have cherished our whole lives,” the Guardians of the Galaxy and Suicide Squad franchise filmmaker added in his tweet. Now, Gunn and Safran are aiming not to have a Kilar situation on their hands in regards to talent relations and hope to apprise reps of their DC plans before the holiday soon after they sit down with Warner Discovery CEO David Zaslav. There’s a lot of hot air out there, so here’s what’s known at this point: Wonder Woman 3 According to those in the know, it was Patty Jenkins who walked away after receiving notes on the treatment she submitted to the studio. Apparently her threequel pitch had character arc problems which rivaled that of Wonder Woman 1984, which despite being impacted at the box office for the worst by closed NYC and LA theaters during Covid and a studio HBO Max day-and-date plan, was panned by critics at 58% Rotten and not a rave with fans with a B+ Cinemascore despite the first one getting an A. One rival studio executive observed the potential problem in the current DC set-up of having a filmmaker like Gunn providing notes to an established filmmaker like Jenkins, however, we hear that Warner Bros. Motion Picture chiefs Michael De Luca and Pam Abdy had concerns about the treatment before Safran and Gunn weighed in. The group provided notes. Jenkins fought back and defended her vision that the threequel’s character arcs were solid. Jenkins was given the opportunity for another pass, but opted to walk. While the optics of Wonder Woman 3 not going forward post the killing of Batgirl provides bad optics for the studio, it was never anyone’s intention to be sexist. The hope for another Wonder Woman exists. The question is whether Gadot wants to make it sans Jenkins, and judging from the actress’ tweet two days’ before the explosive DC news, it sounds like the actress wants to stay aboard. Combined, the Wonder Woman movies grossed $992.4M, the first dynamiting female moviegoers to the DC universe. Why wouldn’t the current DC administration not want to make more Wonder Woman? Man of Steel 2 and the whole Henry Cavill of it. Before Gunn and Safran even arrived, it was De Luca and Abdy’s decision with Johnson, sources tell us, to put Cavill’s Superman at the end of Black Adam to give the dark movie an uplifting, exciting cliffhanger. No regrets there. Cavill is managed by Dany Garcia, who also reps former spouse Johnson. There had been some championing for some time by Cavill’s team for the actor to return as the Man of the Steel, a role he took on in the Zack Synder directed 2013 version ($668M WW) and continued in 2016’s Batman v Superman ($873M WW) and 2017’s Justice League ($657.9M). Cavill, I hear, took it upon himself to announce his return as the Man of Steel on Instagram on Oct. 24, the day before Safran and Gunn were named as heads of DC. De Luca and Abdy before the duo’s arrival heard a pitch from Man of Steel producer Charles Roven and a writer. They didn’t like it and wanted to wait for Safran and Gunn’s plan to come into place. Hence, Man of Steel 2 was never greenlit, didn’t have a director nor was it packaged. Capisce? Man of Steel 2 remains an open slot until the studio hears a better pitch. Over the Thanksgiving holiday stretch, Johnson revealed in a video post that he “fought hard” with Warners to bring Cavill back. Johnson said Warners “inexplicably and inexcusably” did not want to bring back Cavill but he was not going to take no for an answer and his team got to work. “This has been years in the making regarding bringing Henry Cavill back and years of strategic conversations and we were not going to take no for an answer,” Johnson said. “There was no way, there’s no viable logical way that you can attempt to build out the DC Universe without the most powerful force and the greatest superhero of all time sitting on the sidelines. It’s impossible to do.” But, wait, what about that Flash ending with Cavill? Yes, Cavill shot it, there’s something involving Clark Kent with additional cameos by Supergirl, Aquaman, Wonder Woman in the film. However, the studio right now is sitting on these options until they confer with Safran and Gunn. It remains whether the duo want to do another Ezra Miller led Flash and if they do another Flash, how they’ll tee that up. Miller has been ablaze in the tabloids for a number of run-ins throughout the year, the actor currently battling a liquor burglary theft charge in Vermont. The actor made a public apology for their actions. Dwayne Johnson as Black Adam Warner Bros/Courtesy Everett Collection And Black Adam 2? It’s been radio silence from Warner Bros. to the pic’s team about whether there is a sequel to the Johnson led franchise. However Warner brass and Johnson are elated that the pic stands to make a profit north of $50M despite false media reports. Warners would be keen to keep an asset like Johnson with a half billion social media followers in the fold, the People’s Champion having made several hit movies with New Line including San Andreas, Rampage, and Journey to the Center of the Earth. Will there be a complete reboot of DC’s core stars? One studio insider tells us, “At no point was there any pre-conceived notions of not continuing with these actors. It all boils down to how The Flash (June 16) and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (Dec. 25) do at the box office.” Not to mention, the studio doesn’t want Gadot to hang up Wonder Woman’s belt. And Jason Momoa as Lobo? This is mere fan speculation at the time given how the actor looks like the anti-hero. Momoa and Gunn are friends given how the former made a cameo as Aquaman in the latter’s Suicide Squad spinoff HBO Max series The Peacemaker. |
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The box office disappointment for Black Adam seems to have cooled the fervor for Cavill's return inside WB. I wonder if that wasn't just some last-ditch marketing for Black Adam by the studio as a publicity stunt.
I could see them dumping Gadot if things don't line up correctly. She'll probably get another movie but who knows. I believe Gunn has pitched DC projects focusing on B-listers for the foreseeable future outside of Batman. Those are smaller investments by the studio and even if they fail, will not get executives fired. I imagine everyone is in CYA mode. |
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
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As usual, people... MANY SO CALLED DC "FANS" in particular...are so ready to see DC Fall under the new Leadership. They jump ahead of themselves with bullshit half info and "insider" horseshit. I'm so glad Gunn is setting the narrative straight.
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They really thought 5 seconds of Cavill's Superman was the main marketing point for Black Adam. I mean, seriously...
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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
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I wonder if that wasn't just some last-ditch marketing for Black Adam by the studio as a publicity stunt.
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