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dhmac 07-14-14 11:39 AM

Filmmaking Analysis Found Online
 
I ran across this YT channel called "Every Frame a Painting" ( link ) that's run by someone who does very good analysis of filmmakers and their style.

So I figured I'd start a thread to talk about that channel as well as any other film analysis video essays and film essays that are out there.

dhmac 07-14-14 11:40 AM

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For the 1st posting, "Every Frame a Painting" looks at something that Steven Spielberg does a lot in his movies that he calls "The Spielberg Oner"

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dhmac 07-14-14 11:41 AM

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And here's his look at Edgar Wright's visually based comedy style:

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dhmac 07-14-14 01:23 PM

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I also liked this other guy's in-depth analysis of the 2011 film Drive starring Ryan Gosling

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Solid Snake 07-14-14 01:29 PM

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Yeah. The American comedy is very boring in visual.

Pisses me off that Wright is off Ant-Man. He's such a good director.

Brack 07-14-14 02:22 PM

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Good analysis videos. I'm not sure I agree with the whole Edgar Wright being vastly superior to other comedy directors, because he uses a scene from This Is The End as an example (a weak one, mind you), which as a whole is a very good movie visually, and one of the funniest movies from last year. I laughed more at that than The World's End (which I still like, just not as much as Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz). Wright uses a lot of the same camera tricks/shots/cuts in every movie. It's starting to get old.

The Drive Analyzed video was good, but
Spoiler:
I'm not sure Driver ever had a chance with Irene. It was never going to be a happily-ever-after ending for them. And I don't ever buy that Driver was a "bad guy" when he was killing guys trying to him and would've killed Irene and her son. He was just fighting fire with fire, because he had to.

Solid Snake 07-14-14 03:10 PM

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Dude had issues. He was our hero but Driver wasn't exactly innocent. He was ready to beat that guy that came up in that restaurant or whatever.

Yeah, he was doing what needed to be done for Irene and her son but... There was something to him that Irene noticed at a certain point.

Brack 07-14-14 03:39 PM

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I agree, I just didn't see what the guy in the video saw as him turning darker or whatever. He already was. And he knew that there was no way she'd want to be with him when he's caught up in the same bs as Standard was (in some ways). But after that deal went sour, it was pretty much kill or be killed.

As far as the guy in the restaurant, he was clearly not wanting his "worlds colliding" and be buddy buddy with some other criminal. I would have reacted the same way as Driver had. Sure he was ready to beat that guy, but he knew he wasn't going to have to.

Dan 07-14-14 04:09 PM

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Yeah, good videos for sure. Even his Michael Bay one was interesting.

I think he's on-point regarding comedies. The camera work in so many of those flicks is so bland, and it doesn't need to be. We can blame Kevin Smith for a lot of that, I'm sure. But, watching the video, I actually laughed out loud at some of the Hot Fuzz clips (ie: When the Andy's walk off screen), and I'd seen that SO many times. It doesn't mean the not-so-visual movies are BAD, but they're just not as interesting as films, when they absolutely COULD be.

Anyway, thanks dhmac for sharing these. I look forward to watching more of them.

dhmac 07-14-14 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12168316)
Yeah, good videos for sure. Even his Michael Bay one was interesting.

Oh yeah, I need to post that one too because he (the 1st guy) made me think about Michael Bay as an auteur, which in itself, is an accomplishment.

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dhmac 07-16-14 10:41 PM

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The 2nd guy (Chris Stuckmann) also did an in-depth analysis of Prometheus

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Mabuse 07-22-14 11:03 PM

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Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

Sean O'Hara 07-23-14 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 12168537)
Oh yeah, I need to post that one too because he (the 1st guy) made me think about Michael Bay as an auteur, which in itself, is an accomplishment.

Bay certainly is an auteur. So are Roger Corman, Ed Wood and Uwe Boll. Being an auteur doesn't necessarily make a director good.

hanshotfirst1138 07-23-14 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Dan (Post 12168316)
Yeah, good videos for sure. Even his Michael Bay one was interesting. I think he's on-point regarding comedies. The camera work in so many of those flicks is so bland, and it doesn't need to be. We can blame Kevin Smith for a lot of that, I'm sure. But, watching the video, I actually laughed out loud at some of the Hot Fuzz clips (ie: When the Andy's walk off screen), and I'd seen that SO many times. It doesn't mean the not-so-visual movies are BAD, but they're just not as interesting as films, when they absolutely COULD be. Anyway, thanks dhmac for sharing these. I look forward to watching more of them.

I think a lot of comedies are pegged to their stars too; Tom Shadyac is mostly content to lock his camera down and watch as Jim Carrey goes nuts. Lots of comedies aren't very plot-heavy either, their loose structure probably doesn't lend itself to some directors. Obviously, comedies certainly don't have to be this way, but I think a lot of Hollywood ones are. As Supermallet always does, he pointed out something I hadn't noticed, which is how impressive much of Edgar Wright's camera technique is, especially for someone TV-bred.

dhmac 07-24-14 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara (Post 12176981)
Bay certainly is an auteur. So are Roger Corman, Ed Wood and Uwe Boll. Being an auteur doesn't necessarily make a director good.

I'm using the word in the long standing usage by French film critics to indicate a filmmaker with a certain viewpoint that stands out across multiple films. I don't think Roger Corman or Uwe Boll fit that definition because the films they directed are rather scattershot with no overall personal vision coming through for either one. Ed Wood does fit the definition, though, and truly is an auteur.

Sean O'Hara 07-24-14 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 12177974)
I'm using the word in the long standing usage by French film critics to indicate a filmmaker with a certain viewpoint that stands out across multiple films. I don't think Roger Corman or Uwe Boll fit that definition because the films they directed are rather scattershot with no overall personal vision coming through for either one. Ed Wood does fit the definition, though, and truly is an auteur.

That's the definition I'm using too. My test for an auteur is simple -- can someone unfamiliar with a director watch a group of his films and recognize they're by the same person without seeing the credits? Richard Donner, for instance, isn't an auteur because no one seeing Superman, The Omen, Goonies and Lethal Weapon would ever see any unity of vision between them. But show someone Bucket of Blood, X: The Man with X-Ray Eyes, House of Usher and Little Shop of Horrors, or a group of Boll's shitfests and I wager they'd recognize the commonalities.

hanshotfirst1138 07-24-14 08:21 PM

Evidently some directors-Corman, Hawks, Ford, Carpenter, etc.- found some of the auteur analysis of their films fairly amusing.

dhmac 10-05-14 09:28 AM

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"Every Frame a Painting" has a new video about David Fincher (just in time for his new film):

<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/107779620?badge=0&amp;color=f0a400" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/107779620">David Fincher - And the Other Way is Wrong</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/tonyzhou">Tony Zhou</a> on <a href="https://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

dhmac 11-11-14 09:34 AM

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Chris Stuckmann's analysis on the problem with Horror Movies today...

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dhmac 11-16-14 04:28 PM

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"Trailers From Hell" has a lot of short talks about different movies that are pretty good.

Here's their video for John Carpenter's Assault On Precinct 13 (discussed by Neil Marshall)

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Why So Blu? 11-16-14 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138 (Post 12178828)
Evidently some directors-Corman, Hawks, Ford, Carpenter, etc.- found some of the auteur analysis of their films fairly amusing.

Of course. True auteurs don't think they've done anything special and remain humble.

dhmac 11-25-14 11:24 AM

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The Cynical Celluloid channel ( lampyman101 ) has some good film analysis videos on YT.

Here's the channel's analysis of the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey
( CLICK THIS LINK TO WATCH - because embedding was not allowed)

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dhmac 11-25-14 11:40 AM

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Rob Ager's Collative Learning channel also has a detailed analysis of 2001: A Space Odyssey titled "2001: A Space Odyssey - The Meaning of the Monolith Revealed"

PART 1:
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PART 2:
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William Fuld 11-25-14 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? (Post 12304381)
Of course. True auteurs don't think they've done anything special and remain humble.

:lol:

dhmac 11-25-14 11:51 AM

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Occasionally, The Nostalgia Critic (from "That Guy With The Glasses" and the "League of Super Critics") gets a bit more analytical than satirical, such as in this look back at American Beauty

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