Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
#1201
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Considering there’s a certain element of Vader worship going on, I’d guess Rey is an Anakin clone if she’s a clone of anyone. Could be that the Knights of Ren made a clone, and maybe Luke rescued the baby from them at some point, and she’s been watched ever since to make sure she doesn’t go all Sithy.
Could be the big twist for Episode IX.
#1202
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
That would be fucking stupid, IMO. That goes for anything involving a clone.
#1203
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#1204
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Maybe Emilia Clarke's character in the Han SOlo movie is Rey's mother. Got knocked up by one of Han's scoundrel buddies.
Or Rey is from something like Dathomir, a planet of powerful witches. Rey's family knows she's strong in the Force but don't want her trained by the witches. So they flee the planet. Snoke hears about this planet and sees it as a threat to him and has the First Order wipe it out. Rey's family are being chased by the First Order and leave her at Jakku and are later killed.
Or Rey is from something like Dathomir, a planet of powerful witches. Rey's family knows she's strong in the Force but don't want her trained by the witches. So they flee the planet. Snoke hears about this planet and sees it as a threat to him and has the First Order wipe it out. Rey's family are being chased by the First Order and leave her at Jakku and are later killed.
#1205
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Maybe Rey is Han's daughter... from Emilia Clarke.
I know, I know... Rey's not 30. Maybe Han went in for a re-tap.
I know, I know... Rey's not 30. Maybe Han went in for a re-tap.
#1206
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
If you look at the official Lucas films the Darth Plagueis story and Shimi's explanation for Anakin's birth just stick out like big WTFs and I can see Disney running with some type of answer to it all. Perhaps Snoke was running around the galaxy dropping these "test tube babies" to see what would happen.
#1207
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
"I've seen this raw strength only once before. It didn't scare me enough then."
Candidates:
- Palpatine
- Vader
- Kylo
- Snoke
- Chief Chirpa
#1208
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Kylo.
#1209
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
You're saying Kylo, who got bested in a duel by someone holding a saber for the first time, is more powerful than Palpatine who basically wiped out Luke with one move (force lightning)? He is someone who didn't scare Luke enough. Luke walked into that throne room like no big deal when he should've shaken in his boots.
Luke uses the phrase "raw strength" which is what throw me off. Palpy is undoubtedly more "powerful" but "raw strength"? I dunno. Maybe Kylo after all.
Luke uses the phrase "raw strength" which is what throw me off. Palpy is undoubtedly more "powerful" but "raw strength"? I dunno. Maybe Kylo after all.
#1211
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#1212
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Vader during ESB. Remember Obi1 and Yoda trying to warn him he wasn't ready but Luke rushed in and found out he had no chance. He wasn't scared to face him but found out he should have been.
#1214
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
It cuts to an older Luke crawling from the wreckage and watching what is presumably his Jedi Temple burn when he says that. Unless the trailer intentionally misleads us, he's talking about Kylo.
#1215
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
I think he's talking about Kylo too. That said, I believe this trailer is intentionally misleading about a lot of things, so who knows.
#1216
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
You're saying Kylo, who got bested in a duel by someone holding a saber for the first time, is more powerful than Palpatine who basically wiped out Luke with one move (force lightning)? He is someone who didn't scare Luke enough. Luke walked into that throne room like no big deal when he should've shaken in his boots.
Luke uses the phrase "raw strength" which is what throw me off. Palpy is undoubtedly more "powerful" but "raw strength"? I dunno. Maybe Kylo after all.
Luke uses the phrase "raw strength" which is what throw me off. Palpy is undoubtedly more "powerful" but "raw strength"? I dunno. Maybe Kylo after all.
#1217
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
He could be talking about Snoke too.
#1218
Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
I thought this was pretty cool:
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#1219
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
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#1220
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
After the teaser came out Hamill was asked about what Luke was talking about in it and he said he honestly didn't know because they just recorded him for that teaser. It's quite possible their is dialogue here that isn't in the movie, but serves as misdirection.
#1221
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Now Palpatine had power Luke had never seen or expected, but he doesnt fit the 'not scared part'. I'm sure Luke was pretty scared while getting fried during ROTJ.
I'm going to maintain it's Vader, because as he told Yoda.
I'm not afraid. - Luke
Good. You will be. You will be. - Yoda
#1222
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#1223
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
#1224
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
I really don't see how he could be talking about anyone else (Kylo). As far as raw strength?? I didn't see Vader, Maul, Palpatine or any Sith/Jedi chit chat will suspending a LASER mid-air!