Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
02-16-16, 04:13 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by milo bloom
In the ROTJ novelization (which is "backup" canon), Han mentions something along the lines of "six months of wide awake nothin' "
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02-16-16, 04:42 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Maz Kanata
Wrong.
3 years between Episode IV and Episode V.
1 year between Episode V and Episode VI.
30 years between Episode VI and VII.
Like I said, not exact but pretty fucking close, and roughly accurate.
Now take your trolling and go somewhere else.
02-16-16, 04:56 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Artman
Yeah, I do wish the final TFA scene did have some brief dialogue, similar to the "I want to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi like my father" scene from ANH.
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
02-16-16, 05:41 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Timber
In what universe is 1 year pretty fucking close to 3 years?
02-16-16, 05:41 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by story
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
02-16-16, 08:31 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by story
Except all of the Star Wars films have a tradition of ending without dialogue. If that line was in there, fanboys would be up in arms about it.
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
It's always been unofficially assumed that SW to Empire was 2-3yrs, Empire to Jedi was 6months-1yr. That goes back to the SW Insider days, not sure if it was ever official cannon... but it makes sense.
SW films should start breaking the mold going forward, whether it's time between episodes, the opening/closing scenes, structure, drop "Ive got a bad feeling about this", etc.
02-16-16, 08:48 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
I recall an interview with Lucas (way back from the '80s) where he himself said that it's roughly the same amount of time as between each release, due to actors just being that much older, so their aging in the movies may as well match their aging in real life.
02-17-16, 12:36 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by slop101
Like I said, not exact but pretty fucking close, and roughly accurate.
02-17-16, 01:07 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Maz Kanata
There is a considerable difference between 6 months/1 year and three years. It's downright nonsensical and ridiculous to think it took Chewie three whole years to locate Jabba, a well-known gangster.
I had assumed that Jabba (and, thus, Han) would be difficult to locate, but in ROTJ he's shown to be living in a big palace on Tatooine. I had, at the time, assumed that he would be difficult to track down, like he operated from a well-hidden lair, or operated off of a space ship that was constantly moving.
The old Marvel Star Wars comic sort of did an extended hunt for Han Solo during the three year gap, but with ROTJ, it was pretty obvious that they would know exactly where to look.
02-17-16, 12:07 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
To a movie viewer, the only gaps that are known for sure are the ones where you can judge the age of a kid (harder to tell aging in adults).
I-->II = about 10 years.
Look to Anakin's age. About 10 in I, about 20 in II.
III-->IV = 18-20 years.
Look to the twins. From newborn to about 18-20 (however, Kenobi seems to age about 30-40 years... see what I mean about adults?)
Anything else is kinda pure guesswork.
I-->II = about 10 years.
Look to Anakin's age. About 10 in I, about 20 in II.
III-->IV = 18-20 years.
Look to the twins. From newborn to about 18-20 (however, Kenobi seems to age about 30-40 years... see what I mean about adults?)
Anything else is kinda pure guesswork.
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02-17-16, 03:27 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by slop101
In what universe is "2" a high number?
02-17-16, 03:46 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Mabuse
Give it up.
02-17-16, 07:26 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Alec Guinness was early 60s during Star Wars, but Ewan McGregor was mid-30s during Revenge of the Sith. About 20 years passed between the two movies, and living in a desert cave probably isn't doing wonders for his appearance...
02-18-16, 11:09 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by slop101
I recall an interview with Lucas (way back from the '80s) where he himself said that it's roughly the same amount of time as between each release, due to actors just being that much older, so their aging in the movies may as well match their aging in real life.
02-22-16, 02:34 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
One of the filming locations is in Croatia. The city of Dubrovnik will serve as . . . well, something in the Star Wars sequel, and while filming there won't begin until March 9th, the Star Wars News Net scored some pictures of production gearing up. Take a look!
02-22-16, 02:46 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Dubrovnik's gonna have to make room for all the Game of Thrones and Star Wars tourists.
02-22-16, 08:40 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by story
Except all of the Star Wars films have a tradition of ending without dialogue. If that line was in there, fanboys would be up in arms about it.
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
Where are people getting these elapsed times between episodes?
02-23-16, 10:32 AM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by Supermallet
Actually, more than lack of dialogue, all Star Wars films have ended on static shots, except for TFA. It took me a bit to articulate why the ending of TFA felt off to me, and it's the swirling camera.
02-29-16, 12:23 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Daisy Ridley confirmed to a reporter on the Oscars red carpet that Episode VIII opens on Skellig Michael and that it was strange filming the same scene again with a different crew. From a continuity and logistics standpoint, it's strange they didn't just film the opening during location shooting for The Force Awakens. Maybe they did and Johnson decided to change the script? Seems like a giant hassle to return to a heritage site and hope the weather conditions will be close enough to match something that was shot a year prior.
As others have mentioned, it seems odd for a Star Wars film to pick up at the exact moment the last one ended. Abrams mentioned that they tweaked a few things in VII at the behest of Rian Johnson, but there was at least one request they simply could not accommodate. I half suspect Rian wanted to save the journey to the island and the Luke reveal entirely for the opening of his movie.
As others have mentioned, it seems odd for a Star Wars film to pick up at the exact moment the last one ended. Abrams mentioned that they tweaked a few things in VII at the behest of Rian Johnson, but there was at least one request they simply could not accommodate. I half suspect Rian wanted to save the journey to the island and the Luke reveal entirely for the opening of his movie.
02-29-16, 06:39 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Originally Posted by joe_b
As others have mentioned, it seems odd for a Star Wars film to pick up at the exact moment the last one ended. Abrams mentioned that they tweaked a few things in VII at the behest of Rian Johnson, but there was at least one request they simply could not accommodate. I half suspect Rian wanted to save the journey to the island and the Luke reveal entirely for the opening of his movie.
I doubt Rian's request was to nix The Force Awakens' ending. It was probably more like "can you not kill off that character?"
03-03-16, 08:58 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)
Now that we’ve been completely through a new Star Wars movie, from pre-production through release, we have a pretty good idea of how things will work for Star Wars: Episode VIII. This means that one of the next major pieces of official information that we’re likely in store for is the actual title. Now, right on schedule, a couple of rumored titles have surfaced and...well, one of them could work.
We’re sure that we’ll hear many rumors for titles between now and whenever we actually hear the official announcement, however, the first two are now out and they come from very different sources. The first one, courtesy of the mass of humanity that is Reddit, is that the title will be Star Wars: Tale of the Jedi Temple. We’ll apparently know if this title is legit fairly soon as the source claims it will be revealed as part of May the Fourth, the annual official/unofficial Star Wars Day. The second title comes from a Croatian Star Wars fan site. They claim the title will be Star Wars: The Order of the Dark Side.
If we had to pick one of these, we’d have to go with The Order of the Dark Side. The other just feels way too dull. None of the other Star Wars titles gave us a tale or a story. Most of them have actual verbs in them, where something happens. The Empire Strikes Back. Attack of the Clones. There’s just nothing going on in The Tale of the Jedi Temple. Oh, you’re going to tell me a story as I fall asleep? Let me get my hot cocoa. It honestly would make more sense as the title of a tie-in children’s book.
At least The Order of the Dark Side feels like a Star Wars title. It’s got some meat on it, like The Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith. It still doesn’t make a lot of sense, though. Star Wars: The Force Awakens set up The First Order as an organization that, while it contained Kylo Ren, was mostly focused on non-Force-related military functions. Supreme Leader Snoke and Kylo Ren were part of the Dark Side, but General Hux, as far as we know, was not. Whatever Kylo and the Knights of Ren have cooking in Episode VIII may be much bigger than anything we saw in The Force Awakens, but calling it an Order seems odd since we already have one of those.
Even if both of these are real titles under consideration there’s no guarantee that either of them has been chosen, or even that any title has been chosen yet. We didn’t learn about Star Wars: The Force Awakens title until the end of principal photography, and if Episode VIII follows suit, that means it will be months before we hear anything official. Do you like either of these choices? Why, or why not?
We’re sure that we’ll hear many rumors for titles between now and whenever we actually hear the official announcement, however, the first two are now out and they come from very different sources. The first one, courtesy of the mass of humanity that is Reddit, is that the title will be Star Wars: Tale of the Jedi Temple. We’ll apparently know if this title is legit fairly soon as the source claims it will be revealed as part of May the Fourth, the annual official/unofficial Star Wars Day. The second title comes from a Croatian Star Wars fan site. They claim the title will be Star Wars: The Order of the Dark Side.
If we had to pick one of these, we’d have to go with The Order of the Dark Side. The other just feels way too dull. None of the other Star Wars titles gave us a tale or a story. Most of them have actual verbs in them, where something happens. The Empire Strikes Back. Attack of the Clones. There’s just nothing going on in The Tale of the Jedi Temple. Oh, you’re going to tell me a story as I fall asleep? Let me get my hot cocoa. It honestly would make more sense as the title of a tie-in children’s book.
At least The Order of the Dark Side feels like a Star Wars title. It’s got some meat on it, like The Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith. It still doesn’t make a lot of sense, though. Star Wars: The Force Awakens set up The First Order as an organization that, while it contained Kylo Ren, was mostly focused on non-Force-related military functions. Supreme Leader Snoke and Kylo Ren were part of the Dark Side, but General Hux, as far as we know, was not. Whatever Kylo and the Knights of Ren have cooking in Episode VIII may be much bigger than anything we saw in The Force Awakens, but calling it an Order seems odd since we already have one of those.
Even if both of these are real titles under consideration there’s no guarantee that either of them has been chosen, or even that any title has been chosen yet. We didn’t learn about Star Wars: The Force Awakens title until the end of principal photography, and if Episode VIII follows suit, that means it will be months before we hear anything official. Do you like either of these choices? Why, or why not?
