Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13308963)
Still, he can't consent to his likeness being used if he's dead. Seeing a special effect of a dead actor on screen just kept pulling me out of the movie.
Maybe people who have such deep-seated issues with this type of thing should recognize that it makes them too emotionally affected to offer any opinion on the film overall. If the filmmakers had chosen to use a different actor without the CGI overlay, nothing about the story would have changed, but your opinion of it would. |
Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by RoboDad
(Post 13308976)
Maybe people who have such deep-seated issues with this type of thing should recognize that it makes them too emotionally affected to offer any opinion on the film overall.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13308994)
That's ridiculous. The uncanny valley is a well-documented phenomenon which is why many people have issues with CGI characters portraying humans more than aliens/monsters. And if one is turned off by the effect that in no way negates other issues they may have with the film.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by RoboDad
(Post 13309014)
The so-called "uncanny valley" has nothing to do with your issues regarding the likeness of a deceased actor being used. You have specifically, repeatedly called out that issue, and even gone as far as to say that the fact that it was a "dead actor" is what pulled you out of the movie.
I do see it as a parallel with Gene Kelly in the vacuum commercial: a massive corporation using an actor's likeness to make money when they are not in a position to grant consent(due to their death). Many here are willing to play apologist and confuse the two examples simply because this is Star Wars, and they like Star Wars a lot more than vacuuming, but it's a valid discussion concerning a new and controversial technology. Either way it should in no way negate my thoughts on the film, many aspects of which I loved, including the third act and Alan Tudyk's performance as K-2SO. I'd feel the same way with any other franchise doing the same. I brought up my thoughts on the issue because once again this thread is discussing CGI-Tarkin, because it's clearly an aspect of the film that found mixed reactions among Star Wars fans. |
Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13308963)
Still, he can't consent to his likeness being used if he's dead.
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13307950)
...I know his estate approved it and made some money, I just couldn't help wondering if Cushing would have agreed to be in Rogue One. ..
Seeing a special effect of a dead actor on screen just kept pulling me out of the movie. |
Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Yeah, I mean when you’re dead that’s it. I don’t see why it’s so controversial as at that point it shouldn’t matter to anyone besides the surviving family. If they’re okay with it and it’s done respectfully (putting aside how good you thought it looked) I see no reason to take offense to it. If anything I think its kinda cool that stuff like that can be done and iconic actors can still live on a bit in new projects. It’s not like Disney marketed the film with him as a big selling point and in my opinion it was more just to accent the feel of the Original Trilogy.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by Giantrobo
(Post 13309394)
But in your post you said:
I was addressing, or speculating, since I don't really know what Cushing himself would do... on that bold part alone. That said, clearly society has given Estates/Families legal rights to control the images of Dead Celebs...Elvis, Tupac, etc. So as another poster pointed out, it may be a thing the Living actors have to address before they die. |
Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13309592)
And you may be right that he'd have been happy to say in another Star Wars movie. Then again... He might have thought differently after seeing TPM, AOTC, and ROTS. :lol:
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13309592)
And you may be right that he'd have been happy to say in another Star Wars movie. Then again... He might have thought differently after seeing TPM, AOTC, and ROTS. :lol:
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 13307950)
I just couldn't help wondering if Cushing would have agreed to be in Rogue One.
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Re: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (12/16/16, D: Edwards) S: Jones, Luna, Mendelsohn, Y
But nobody has a problem with this CGI Tarkin:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/.../Tarkin-HS.jpg |
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