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Orbi-Wan Techno 05-16-14 04:47 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by riley_dude (Post 12108735)
I've heard this movie compared to Jaws and Alien in that they use the Monster sparingly. We don't need to see endless shots of him for him to be effective.

This is on the nose. I actually appreciated the slow build-up to the reveal and the big fight.

Kicker_of_Elves 05-16-14 04:54 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 
Saw it and thought it was great. Loved the 2nd fire breath, the crowd I was with went nuts.

Supermallet 05-16-14 04:54 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 
Less isn't always more. Look at Aliens.

DJariya 05-16-14 05:03 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 
Quick question, I plan to go see this today

Is this worth seeing in IMAX 3D? There are 2 theaters showing it that way near where I live. It's about an $8-9 price difference from that and 2D, so it would really need to be worth it.

Kicker_of_Elves 05-16-14 05:07 PM

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Yeah it is, I just got back from an IMAX 3D screening and thought it was really good.

Solid Snake 05-16-14 05:07 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12108740)
Thinking about it more, these are my main issues:

1. The wife and kid did nothing. Instead of the setup they gave us, keep Cranston alive and have ATJ be single but in the military. He's given temporary leave to go get Cranston when he's arrested. Then keep Cranston alive past the first MUTO scene and have it be a father/son thing. ATJ is reassigned to the task force involved with Godzilla, so now he has a reason to be in all those places instead of just happening to be in the right place at the right time for every scene. Cranston stays with Watanabe and wants to kill Godzilla for revenge, while Watanabe wants him alive so he can stop the MUTOs.

2. The cutaway in Honolulu was a bad idea. You just revealed Godzilla. This is the moment everyone is waiting for...and then you cut away? No. Give us two or three minutes of crazy monster fights, then cut away to people watching it on the news. The lack of monster fights throughout made the end fight feel anemic. If we had gotten even a little close quarters fighting in the middle, the ending would work much better.

And that's really it. Two simple changes that could have made this film significantly better. Not that it's bad now, but the flaws become more apparent the more I think about it.

If the BD offered 10 minutes of just pure monster action, I'd get it.

Actually.... This is all true.

islandclaws 05-16-14 05:07 PM

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The 3D added nothing, but you want to see this on the biggest screen, with the loudest sound, possible.

lopper 05-16-14 05:51 PM

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I saw this today and was totally underwhelmed. There were way, way too many moments that just had me shaking my head.

Thoughts:

-I really disliked Kick Ass in the lead role. Every time I saw him on screen, I thought, "He's like the poor man's Jake Gyllenhaal. I wish they had got him to play this part." And I hate Jake Gyllenhaal.

Bryan Cranston was pretty terrible, too.

-The MUTOs were cool. I also liked them the first time I saw them in Cloverfield. No, they aren't identical designs, but close enough to not really feel all that original either.

-Between Kaiju, Transformers, Supermen, Jaegers, and whatever the hell else destroying building after building the last couple summers, I can't help but feel like the whole "leveling an entire city" is losing its spectacle.

-Godzilla breath was fucking BOSS!

My wife still wants to see this (I went without her) so we'll check out an IMAX showing this weekend maybe. Knowing what I'm getting into, I'll probably enjoy the movie more after the second viewing.

And Pacific Rim was much better than this.

csant 05-16-14 05:56 PM

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I dont know it feels like they were feeling out people interest with this movie. While I liked it a lot and love big G version for this film... I do feel like we could've had more of him.

Maybe it was a set up for a second movie where big G will be more on screen. Either way, I am in for a second movie and hopefully more G.

Traxan 05-16-14 06:54 PM

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Ok, since no one is using the spoiler tag...

I loved it. I didn't mind the slow build because it was establishing the whole world, where MUTOs feed on radiation. I mean, in less capable hands, the MUTOs going OM NOM NOM on Russian submarines and nuclear warheads would have looked stupid.

Killing off Cranston's character = huge mistake. I agree with the poster who said just keep the father and son. Lizzy Olson was wasted. She just played the frightened wife waiting for her husband to come home. She played it well but the character was 1 dimensional.

Very cool shot: Godzilla swimming with a carrier group. It could have been silly but it worked for me.

Eh? Moment: Strathairn's character throwing the Godzilla name out of left field. Watanabe had called him Gojira, and that dark haired woman called zilla 'A god,' but the name used by the Admiral came out of nowhere.

Also, anyone else think it was odd that a crisis of this magnitude was basically handled by an Admiral on a carrier that had no chance of getting to American soil in time? Where the hell was the President?

The military weren't bad, but there was one moment of being utter bozos, around SF when they started unloading rockets like that.

Pisser shot of the movie: Olsen running into a bunker and we see zilla was a MUTO's whole head in his mouth while they are fighting, and the door slams shut. I was like, GDI, let me see more of a fight!

I was surprised at how vulnerable they made Zilla. He was getting his ass kicked by the two MUTOs and it was only when ATJ turned their spawn into caviar that they were distracted. Then he gets KOed when the building falls on him and collapses in a heap after finishing off MUTO 2.

What was cool was they gave some intelligence to his eyes. He seemed to recognize ATJ/Ford trying to help him. Also, he finally has functional arms, since the rubber suit version always gave him T Rex arms.

Having lived in SF and not liking it very much, I was mildly amused to watch SOMA and the Pier district get trashed.

That second use of the fire breath? Oh hell yes!

Bring on the sequel, Gareth!

Supermallet 05-16-14 07:02 PM

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Are you sure Watanabe called him Gojira? Sure sounded like Godzilla to me.

I did notice that on one of the trajectory projections, they had him labeled as Gojira.

Traxan 05-16-14 07:23 PM

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He might have. He said it fast.

BTW, I noticed virtually none of the big trailer scenes and dialogue were in the movie. The whole speech before the HALO jump was missing, the banged up Statue of Liberty (clearly in Vegas), the phone call between Ford and the missus was totally different, Bryan's lengthy rant "It wasn't a typhoon or an earthquake..." was missing.

islandclaws 05-16-14 07:24 PM

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He did. I noted to my friend it was odd how Watanabe kept referring to him as 'Gojira' and then moments later Strathairn is calling him 'Godzilla' out of nowhere. Clumsily handled, and I'd be willing to bet a deleted scene explained the change better.

Why So Blu? 05-16-14 07:40 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12108875)
Are you sure Watanabe called him Gojira? Sure sounded like Godzilla to me.

I did notice that on one of the trajectory projections, they had him labeled as Gojira.

It was Gojira, which garnered loud enough chuckles from our audience.

hanshotfirst1138 05-16-14 08:30 PM

Damn, I was hoping Ifukube-san's score would show up at least once :(. And yeah, he definitely said "Gojira." Later on, the military was calling him Godzilla with no explanation at all.

Deftones 05-16-14 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema (Post 12108744)
Sources tell BoxOffice that Godzilla is headed for a debut between $80 million-$85 million based on early data. That's a very healthy start for the monster flick.

obviously the word of mouth is helping significantly. last projection I saw pre-release had it at about $60 - $65 million, which they would've been very happy with. clearly it is over-performing and that has to make the studio even more giddy.

The Antipodean 05-16-14 09:10 PM

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man, what a letdown. Don't call your movie "Godzilla" when Godzilla is IN it for 15-20 minutes, tops.

Spoiler:
I appreciate the "building tension" idea, but Edwards overdoes it and the first hour or so of the movie feels like warmed-over Spielberg. There was a very fun final 30 minutes to the movie, but it doesn't make up for 90 minutes of boredom, tease and wooden faced roided-out Aaron Taylor-Johnson.

The two best actors in the movie are dead by the 30-minute mark. I don't care about this soldier or his wife and nothing Edwards does makes me care that much about them. He hits every disaster/monster movie cliche with the family in danger and I'm just bored by it.

You FINALLY reveal Godzilla in Hawaii in pretty stunning shot... then you cut away from the big monster brawl? BOO. In fact, Edwards can't wait to cut away from most of the monster brawls until the final act. Which just comes off as deflating rather than intense.

There was some great imagery and single shots, don't get me wrong, and the Godzilla here is a great creation .. but when your Godzilla movie features more "MUTO" action than it does Godzilla, you're doing it wrong. I'm really disappointed by how boring and how little fun this one was as I'd been looking forward to it.


"Pacific Rim" did the general idea much better, IMHO.

Neil M. 05-16-14 09:18 PM

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Just got back. Absolutely loved it. Maybe my expectations were lowered by some comments here but I thought the human story was pretty well done for this type of movie. At first I was pissed that the first two fights were cut off before they even started but looking back at it, I can understand why they did it. It would have been too repetitive to have Godzilla fight the same monster three times. They saved the best action for the end. My only complaint is that the whole military plan was completely stupid. Why would you bring the MUTO's food source right to them? And why would you take it by train when you airlift it after the train was destroyed?

I'll probably have more thoughts later but I am sort of glad that I read the prequel graphic novel beforehand. It answers a lot of things that they seemed to gloss over at the beginning. For example, the credits at the beginning show images that are explained a little bit in the book.

Dr. DVD 05-16-14 09:20 PM

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Saw it this afternoon. While I didn't care for the slow build or (once again) the lack of utilization of Bryan Cranston, once the first Muto appeared the pace picked up and maintained. I have to give credit to Gareth Edwards, he knows how to do a giant creature feature. I just wish there had been more focus upon Big G , as it sometimes felt like he was a supporting character and not the star. But, he was the Godzilla we all know and love. I really wanted to mark the hell out when I saw the blue lights crackle along his spine. However, it was a matinee show and it would have looked weird aside from the Godzilla fan in his late 50s who sat a few rows in front of me (he even had on a shirt).

Overall, I liked it. While I had some reservations about Godzilla being the hero in the end,the kid in me loved that aspect. Having seen so many movies where he returns to the ocean after vanquishing a foe, it just felt right.

Dr. DVD 05-16-14 09:23 PM

Re: Godzilla (Edwards, 2014) — The Reviews Thread
 

Originally Posted by The Antipodean (Post 12108969)
"Pacific Rim" did the general idea much better, IMHO.

I will agree, but I felt more vested in these characters than the ones in PR. Then again, one can argue that a kaiju movie shouldn't focus too much on the people.

Why So Blu? 05-16-14 09:24 PM

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One thing I realized is that Aaron Kick Ass (I hate hyphenated last names) is actually BRITISH. He does a pretty good American accent. I could never tell. I watched an interview he did in the UK promoting Godzilla and he has a filthy British accent. Posh, he is not.

Neil M. 05-16-14 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by islandclaws (Post 12108889)
He did. I noted to my friend it was odd how Watanabe kept referring to him as 'Gojira' and then moments later Strathairn is calling him 'Godzilla' out of nowhere. Clumsily handled, and I'd be willing to bet a deleted scene explained the change better.

I think it's poking fun at the fact that Americans call him "Godzilla" instead of "Gojira". Strathairn heard "Godzilla", not "Gojira". Obviously, some people here heard the same thing.

Solid Snake 05-16-14 10:01 PM

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That's what I thought about the name too. A nod to the series.

Osiris3657 05-16-14 10:01 PM

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so, was the 3D good? Or just some post production bullshit to make more money?

mostaccioli 05-16-14 10:16 PM

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i didn't like the drama stories in the movie. cranston character was not needed.
they just should have had godzilla doing all the attacking like in the 1950 movie.


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